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Fellis posted:I will never publish the Wu-Tang wargame when's the kickstarter?
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The End posted:I am really curious to play Pax Renaissance, as it's a co-design between him and his brother, and apparently is just as effective as Porforiana in illustrating the carnage that results from all the sorts of behaviours he admires. Renaissance is wild. The rulebook has a bunch of stuff about how it was really good that bankers were controlling the era from the shadows because it liberated the people and pushed the world out of the dark ages, and then 90% of the games end in Medieval (a bunch of kings conquer their neighbors) or East-West Schism (one religion goes on a holy war and wins) victories. The enlightened victory that results from forming republics looks manageable on the surface, but can be easily crushed if any of your neighbors have strong kingdoms. The "globalization" victory (which I assume Eklund thinks of as a positive but is clearly colonialism) requires a super specific set of cards to come up in the deck.
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I played and enjoyed 18Lilliput. No, it's not 18xx but it's lighter because there's no real stock shenanigans. At the same time, it could easily be at least as mean, since you have to use actions in the game to buy/sell stock and buy trains. In the two player, only one buy/sell action and one purchase train action is available. You can really put the screws on by taking an important action in front of the other player, or take advantage of going twice in a row to make board moves that can't be countered. Each player does get a two 'copy action' cards but there's nine rounds in a two player game so those may go fast. I'm very curious to see how it and Tokyo Metro play with four, both are competitive train games, just like I like 'em 
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The End posted:I am really curious to play Pax Renaissance, as it's a co-design between him and his brother, and apparently is just as effective as Porforiana in illustrating the carnage that results from all the sorts of behaviours he admires. Matt is Phil's adult son. He's was also involved in the design of Pax Porfiriana, is the sole(?) designer of Pax Transhumanity, and by all accounts less batshit objectivist than his dad. He's a Tucson local. Don't know him super personally, he never plays at the local stores. But he playtested Meltwater once or twice, and he's got a nifty project in the works called Stationfall that I'd really like to try one of these days. Mayveena posted:Thoughts on the proposed Root balance changes? They seem really good, and directly address the problem areas with each faction. The Marquis has always had trouble because she's very linear and arithmetic in her development, compared to the varying degrees of exponential development for her rivals. So if she gets put behind, she has a lot of trouble catching back up. The more efficient hospitals will make it a lot easier to hang in the midgame, at least on the board control vector. Meanwhile, the Woodlands were just too bursty. Even with moderate development, Woodlands can threaten a victory rush from around 20 points just on the strength of Organizing out their 3 and 4 point sympathy. A little pumping of the brakes here should keep them more in line with the others. We've already been playing with the Vagabond changes, and let me tell you, they are worlds better. Punching the vagabond used to feel like a total Sisyphean task, because you were often handing her hostility points and a "free" refresh in the process. Suppressing her is still a chore that no one particularly *wants* to do, but at least it doesn't feel like trying to sweep the porch in a dust storm. I've never had the chance to play with the Lizards (I don't have the expansion grumble grumble), so I can only judge them on hearsay. But the new Hated Outcast rules should mean that the other factions will need to at least *intentionally* pull the rug out from under the lizards's plans, rather than it just happening incidentally. Surprised no changes were announced for the Riverfolk, though. I've only played with them one time, but they're scary! Of course, Leder Games still refuses to announce the most important update: A single box that can hold the next expansion (which will have a whole separate board) together with the base game!
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Dec 11, 2018 21:20
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Does anyone have recommendations for a coop board game with a very small box? Going to be traveling a lot, and want to play. So far I have burgle bros and the one deck dungeon series, and I've liked both.
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Dec 11, 2018 22:01
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foutre posted:Does anyone have recommendations for a coop board game with a very small box? Going to be traveling a lot, and want to play. So far I have burgle bros and the one deck dungeon series, and I've liked both. Hanabi. Codenames Duet (for 2p) can fit in a tiny box.
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foutre posted:Does anyone have recommendations for a coop board game with a very small box? Going to be traveling a lot, and want to play. So far I have burgle bros and the one deck dungeon series, and I've liked both. The Mind.
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Thanks for the reccs yall, those seem great. I didn't realize wallet games were such a big thing, going to have to investigate. Doctor Spaceman posted:Hanabi. Realized I forgot to list those, but I have and really like both, spot on recommendations.
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I do not get the love for Hanabi. I know theres like a pretty serious meta to it, but it didn't seem worth that much investment.
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Gejimayu posted:I do not get the love for Hanabi. I know theres like a pretty serious meta to it, but it didn't seem worth that much investment. Once you've got a meta going it isn't very interesting anymore. I only really play it if there's at least one person at the table who hasn't played before.
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Without a meta it seems too random though. Too much guessing. Shrug.
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Gejimayu posted:I do not get the love for Hanabi. I know theres like a pretty serious meta to it, but it didn't seem worth that much investment. figuring out a good move is still challenging with the meta and a cool puzzle. you gotta memorize a lot of clues and negative clues though.
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Fellis posted:I will never publish the Wu-Tang wargame Beyond the 36th Parallel is real!
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Last call for the 1862 pbf. I've got a three-hander lined up but the more the merrier I say.
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golden bubble posted:Your preferences sound like a description of the judging guidelines for the Spiel des Jahres. Are you secretly a Bavarian? Well, I never thought about that before, but you've got me thinking that I might be, now!  hahaAnyway, I've gone through everyone's suggestions and I like what I see! Although after going through them all, I'm mostly interested in Century Spice Road and Azul, though - those two might be big hits with the family. Which of the CSR games is generally considered the best introduction to the series, if I may ask? I looked up the original, which seems very good! Although it's hard to say, since I have a feeling that the 'tile' aspect of Azul may help make it be slightly more popular with the others.
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My parents loved Azul so much they bought a copy for themselves so they could play 1v1 when I wasn't visiting, which knowing my folks is really saying something.
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Major Isoor posted:Which of the CSR games is generally considered the best introduction to the series, if I may ask? I'd get Golem Edition. The art/theme is unthreatening, has little gems, and generally gives it a little more flavor than the spice cubes.
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Azul is a+ and is quite teachable for families, and I can honestly say I will never tire of playing it, though the new version of Azul is also really good.
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T-Bone posted:Christmas came early 
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T-Bone posted:Christmas came early Excellent
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jmzero posted:I'd get Golem Edition. The art/theme is unthreatening, has little gems, and generally gives it a little more flavor than the spice cubes. Alright then, thanks! I'll have a squiz after work, so I can take a more thorough look at it Max posted:Azul is a+ and is quite teachable for families, and I can honestly say I will never tire of playing it, though the new version of Azul is also really good. Oh, I just looked it up then - do you mean the reprinted version? Or have they released a sequel, or something? I couldn't seem to find anything, when I googled it just then.
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Major Isoor posted:Oh, I just looked it up then - do you mean the reprinted version? Or have they released a sequel, or something? I couldn't seem to find anything, when I googled it just then. Azul: Stained Glass of Sintra is the recently released sequel.
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Papes posted:Excellent I'm pretty psyched because they're both theoretically playable without taking up an entire day ala 46 and most of my other 18xxs are huge affairs (30, 44, 54, 2039). CZ seems like it might be playable in a reasonable evening actually. OE, 17, and China look amazing but I think I'll get a lot of play out of 49/89 if 46 is any indicator (over 20 plays in the past year!). e: Although I guess 30 can be short if bad things happen, too. They didn't in our first game amazingly enough.  
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T-Bone posted:I'm pretty psyched because they're both theoretically playable without taking up an entire day ala 46 and most of my other 18xxs are huge affairs (30, 44, 54, 2039). CZ seems like it might be playable in a reasonable evening actually. Oh hey where’d you get that nice box and map of C2C? I have the original version with the plain white box and basic map outline.
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Chill la Chill posted:Oh hey where’d you get that nice box and map of C2C? I have the original version with the plain white box and basic map outline. I don't have it, I was just trying to think of other huge 18xxs and holy poo poo
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Can someone describe what 18xx games actually are? From what I've seen, my best guess is "Ticket To Ride designed by an old-school cardboard chit wargamer"
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Honestly I didn’t much like C2C. OE is a lot more enjoyable. I have pics of both in the old ones 18XX threadPMush Perfect posted:Can someone describe what 18xx games actually are? From what I've seen, my best guess is "Ticket To Ride designed by an old-school cardboard chit wargamer"
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Hans? Are we the robber barons?
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PMush Perfect posted:Can someone describe what 18xx games actually are? From what I've seen, my best guess is "Ticket To Ride designed by an old-school cardboard chit wargamer" Somebody asked why there’s a genre of them in the death thread: Chill la Chill posted:It's the amount of design space that's allowed with the blend of stocks and networks the genre provides. The original games were mere skeletons that later designs latched onto. You can have very stock heavy games about market manipulation so it covers all sorts of economics, bonds, dividends schemes and "operational" games that are more area control and focus on building the map. Often the latter will have more limited tracks. The basic layout of the games allow for dynamic movements in stock price (which usually dictates turn order) and you can dump bad companies onto other players and have them pay out of pocket for trains or go bankrupt. So there's lots of levers to pull and sliders to move within the genre and still have unique games that people flock to.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Hans? Are we the robber barons? 
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PMush Perfect posted:Can someone describe what 18xx games actually are? From what I've seen, my best guess is "Ticket To Ride designed by an old-school cardboard chit wargamer" So you have this game where you lay tiles to make train routes, and train routes will score based on the number and value of cities they connect. Except the railroads aren't the players themselves. Instead, players can invest in the various railroads, buying up shares. The player who has the most shares in a railroad gets to take that railroad's turn for it, but everyone with some shares will get money from the railroad doing well (asterisk), and might be able to take control later. ...orrrr you'll buy some shares in a railroad company, only for the president to raid the company treasury, divest her holdings, and leave you holding onto a deadly money sink of a company. Whoops! That's basically every 18XX in a nutshell.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Hans? Are we the robber barons? Yeah this is basically it. I have very mixed feelings about the genre, but I'd definitely recommend playing 1889 a couple of times to anyone with a mild interest in heavy games. Rules complexity wise, it's much more straight forward than a random Lacerda game. If you don't like 1889, you won't like the genre.
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The most baffling thing about 18xx is that in era with POD services you either have to make your own or find one of the six hand made copies over the past several decades. I honestly see the genre dying as the old guard does because the preservation efforts are about in line with 80s video games. Like Game Crafter or some other service should just have an option to print generic hexes because most of the games use the same iconography and the Keepers of the Map like clearclaw make the die sizes publicly known since they'll pitch a fit if they're off by a gnat's dick.
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I'm not sure there's any cause to say they're dying, they've never been popular. Reasons to be cheerful are GMT dipping their toe in, and Lonny's two successful kickstarters ('Lil' was ks right?). Both of those are more visible to general boardgamers than the 18xx weather report, bringing new people in. As for an archive, even if All Aboard Games collapses, rulebooks are available on third party sites and board18 has the assets and sheets needed.
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Dec 12, 2018 13:57
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It's more alive than when DTG/AAG/GSG didn't exist for certain.
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al-azad posted:The most baffling thing about 18xx is that in era with POD services you either have to make your own or find one of the six hand made copies over the past several decades. I honestly see the genre dying as the old guard does because the preservation efforts are about in line with 80s video games. Like Game Crafter or some other service should just have an option to print generic hexes because most of the games use the same iconography and the Keepers of the Map like clearclaw make the die sizes publicly known since they'll pitch a fit if they're off by a gnat's dick. All Aboard Games has a lot of 18xx's for sale, they aren't hand made anymore. GMT has released 1846 and will release 1862, both at affordable price points and decent graphics. There's another company that sells 18xx games whose name escapes me but it's fairly easy to buy a good 18xx if that's what you are looking for.
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Five years ago there was basically only DTG for games and that's when I submitted an order on their website that still hasn't been fulfilled. Nowadays there's GMT and other companies/KSes that show there's a niche market for the game. It's far from dying it and it's actually picking up steam.
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