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McKilligan posted:so they don't get immediately massacred by Warcrime frames. This is the problem with pvp, all of the abilities have to be rebalanced specifically for that mode. Weapons and general gameplay mechanics work differently too. https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Conclave
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There was a period where PVP was fun during the beam rework. Specifically, when Ignis was added and was generally a viable weapon. The PVP people got upset because people could sneak up on them and hose them down before they could run away and/or twitch-aimbot their opponent to death. In response, DE nerfed Ignis to hell by reducing its range and power severely.
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So someone on Reddit just uploaded a 4chan screenie that apparently totals the game's crafting requirements. For everything. 150k cryotic. I'm gonna need some more excavation arbitrations to pop up.
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honestly, I just didn't like the pvp. i tried conclave only to get my rear end whipped clean by way more competent players. I watch a lunaro match and though maybe that would be fun, though. By the way, should i still keep limbo? Someone suggested i grind for a limbo prime but i'm still trying to understand how limbo even works. Some say he's broken but it honestly depends on his build and how you play him. The most useful thing I like about him is his passive which allows him to be invunable to damage while in the rift. This helped me 9 times out of ten for the most part.
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Good thing to know it's only 800 o. cells. I can farm >100 an hour easily with a booster, now that goons told me about spare parts farming. Also same on cryotic. I think sibear is the last thing I need cryotic for, but ugh 30k
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Truga posted:goons told me about spare parts farming. I get that this is about using the sentinel mod of the same name, but is there a specific trick to it?
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Jack Trades posted:That's fine but you'd think that maybe someone on their team at some point would've thought that maybe they should give literally any reason for the player to do the fancy stuff, but apparently no. I blame the Vent-kids for this one. All talk and no technical skill, coptering and planking over and over again... Wyld Karde posted:So someone on Reddit just uploaded a 4chan screenie that apparently totals the game's crafting requirements. For everything. Going to have to say that this post copped the hell out in not listing how much of the rare materials, especially nitain, you need to craft everything. Why make a list like this when you're not going to show off nitain! Victory Position fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Nickiepoo posted:I get that this is about using the sentinel mod of the same name, but is there a specific trick to it? Put Spare Parts on your sentinel, blow your rear end up on Ceres or Saturn, get orokin cells. Useful if you're low and need some but if you run alerts, invasions and void fissures on Ceres and Saturn when they're around you should remain fairly well stocked. Fruity20 posted:By the way, should i still keep limbo? Someone suggested i grind for a limbo prime but i'm still trying to understand how limbo even works. Some say he's broken but it honestly depends on his build and how you play him. The most useful thing I like about him is his passive which allows him to be invunable to damage while in the rift. This helped me 9 times out of ten for the most part. Get Limbo Prime, Limbo has a bad reputation because most people figure the only way to play Limbo is to max range his rift bubble and slap it on a defense objective. He can also freeze time on any enemies in the rift, so you can grab a tough enemy, throw them in the rift, freeze them and kill them at your leisure. You can also put the defense target in Sortie Defense in the rift, so they can't be damaged. The max range bubble is also useful for busting crates and finding syndicate medallions since you can just remove any icon that isn't a medallion from the map in a pretty big area.
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Nickiepoo posted:I get that this is about using the sentinel mod of the same name, but is there a specific trick to it? Run Lex node on ceres with a spare parts equipped sentinel and something you can efficiently kill yourself with. I like kulstar. Having some level 10 arcanes also helps as they give more revives. Kill the target, run to the exit, switch to suicide weapon, shoot floor/wall, respawn. Each time you die, sentinel also dies and respawns. Repeat until you run out of respawns, then extract. If you have the sacrifice mod you can do it one more time as sacrifice will kill the sentinel. Do not use regen on the sentinel, as regen does not count as death and just makes things take longer. Get 3 more people who are doing the same and you'll be getting ~10 cells per run, and runs take less than 5m.
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Nickiepoo posted:I get that this is about using the sentinel mod of the same name, but is there a specific trick to it? you run that, regen, and the mod that revives you, then you go in a suicide pact with the rest of the group and just take turns killing yourselves with glaives or explosives and having your sentinel kill itself to save you 
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njsykora posted:Get Limbo Prime, Limbo has a bad reputation because most people figure the only way to play Limbo is to max range his rift bubble and slap it on a defense objective. He can also freeze time on any enemies in the rift, so you can grab a tough enemy, throw them in the rift, freeze them and kill them at your leisure. You can also put the defense target in Sortie Defense in the rift, so they can't be damaged. The max range bubble is also useful for busting crates and finding syndicate medallions since you can just remove any icon that isn't a medallion from the map in a pretty big area. i haven't farmed for prime parts before. mainly cause i feel like it's really expensive to get them in terms of refining relics.
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Fruity20 posted:i haven't farmed for prime parts before. mainly cause i feel like it's really expensive to get them in terms of refining relics. Don't worry about refining stuff right away, just crack relics you have and build up a pile of void traces. Then only use the traces on the relics which have the rare parts you need.
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Fruity20 posted:i haven't farmed for prime parts before. mainly cause i feel like it's really expensive to get them in terms of refining relics. Honestly, you'll probably make your first couple primes by accident. Just crack lots of poo poo, do a few endless missions. Sell your spares for Baro, keep a copy for yourself. Eventually you'll just kind of accidentally fall into a few. Just make sure not to actively look for things while you're farming. The Desire Sensor Is Real.
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Chroma prime is real fresh and Mesa prime is about to come out. If you just run random relics in all four categories with some frequency you'll probably be able to get either of those in the next few weeks. Or a week or two after Mesa comes out.
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Fruity20 posted:i haven't farmed for prime parts before. mainly cause i feel like it's really expensive to get them in terms of refining relics.
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Zereth posted:The main way to get the traces to refine relics with is by going and cracking relics. Just go "sure i'll come" when somebody says they're doing a relic cracking mission and bring something. If it's not advertised as a radshare, nobody cares if you're bringing unrefined relics. Yeah, every time there's a "+3 neo defense" or "+3 meso survival" or whatever, just jump in and crack some rocks and get some traces. Sometimes you just stumble into random good poo poo, too. I remember some goon was cracking vaulted stuff in a group I was in and I walked out with two Saryn Prime BPs. 
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, every time there's a "+3 neo defense" or "+3 meso survival" or whatever, just jump in and crack some rocks and get some traces. Are these the two modes with crazy bonuses for just spamming out relics? I can't keep all the modes straight yet
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BrightWing posted:Are these the two modes with crazy bonuses for just spamming out relics? I can't keep all the modes straight yet Defense, Survival, and Excavation are all endless modes, so when they have fissures you can keep cramming in relics as long as you can keep murdering/not getting murdered, yeah. In my experience groups tend to bounce after five rotations on defense/survival, because that's when you get a free one-upgrade relic.
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Wyld Karde posted:So someone on Reddit just uploaded a 4chan screenie that apparently totals the game's crafting requirements. For everything. No nitain, tellurium, neurodes, or neural sensors. This list seems pretty pointless without them.
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that's because you don't need more than 500 total.
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Maybe they should reword that then because it's not very clear what they mean.
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Kyrosiris posted:Defense, Survival, and Excavation are all endless modes, so when they have fissures you can keep cramming in relics as long as you can keep murdering/not getting murdered, yeah.
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What Fortuna kitgun gun do I want to build first? Is there a clear best one?
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Catchmoon is very popular because people like an Arca Plasmor in the pistol slot , but none of them seem outright bad. Building for crit seems to be the way to go.
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IMO that kinda depend on your rep level with Fortuna and what you want to focus on. If you want the mr you can build any of them, but the best magazines only come from max rep and that's where you're going to get the best crit or status values. E: I'm told that Haymaker and Splat are the components you want. And in my experience that holds up pretty solidly. I'm a big fan of the Catchmoon and Rattleguts built in that manner, the Tombfinger does real well in that combo too if you end up liking that chamber. I wasn't a fan of the Gaze but others have been. E: oh right, only the arcanes are locked behind max rank. It's been a long week. FunkyFjord fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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FunkyFjord posted:IMO that kinda depend on your rep level with Fortuna and what you want to focus on. If you want the mr you can build any of them, but the best magazines only come from max rep and that's where you're going to get the best crit or status values. Tier 4, actually, not max.  And yeah, Haymaker/Splat is basically good on everything but Gaze, which imo benefits from Ramble/Killstream instead.
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Chairman Pow! posted:What Fortuna kitgun gun do I want to build first? Is there a clear best one? For most fun to go with your hilarious murdergun I'd start with this Catchmoon. You can use the same parts for Tombfinger. For my Rattleguts, I opted to sacrifice some damage for fire rate, and also went for a faster reload. I do not regret either decision.
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I would recommend Lovetap over Haymaker for the Rattleguts, as Helter has done. Source: I used Haymaker and while it's hilarious, it's a very awkward 'machine' pistol.
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I'd honestly probably recommend that for most too, but I can't lie I really really like my slow firing hard hitting auto pistol. If I wanted a hybrid or status version I would be staying the hell away from the slowest fire rate though.
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Also I quite like my Gaze but that's because I have a really good riven for it and I like dumb zappy pistols, it's pretty objectively the weakest kitgun.
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FunkyFjord posted:If I wanted a hybrid or status version I would be staying the hell away from the slowest fire rate though. Eh, I like the heavy status Catchmoon I built (Haymaker/Thunderdrum). It makes for a hilariously effective gas dispensing machine. Yeah, less effective than the bog-standard Splat take, and I've retired it since building my critty Catchmoon, but it still put out some pretty hilarious clouds of numbers.
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a lot of the fortuna stuff is pretty rep gated. I was going to start farming garuda / kitgun parts / moa stuff but garuda and the kitguns mostly seem to require things that you need tier 4 rep to get, so I've got some days of building up rep. You do anything to circumvent the cap right? Like turning in gems won't work if I've done bounties already?
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Nope, it's one big time gate that double fucks you if you're low MR (because MR is stupid and bullshit for everything beyond starting mod capacity).
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Going back to that tier list website ( https://www.cephalonwannab.com/ ) discussion a dozen pages ago, I got into their discord and suggested a new scourge build that bumped it from the bottom of "needs buffs" tier to the top 3 of the "viable" tier. It basically cut their test clear times in half. Old vs New builds:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNW1y6sYdk0  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kuKaEGCHFY Even though there is a lot of debate about their methodology, it's actually fun to play around in the simulacrum to create builds and beat the suggested times there. I might suggest a few more severely underrated weapons that I managed to make new unconventional builds for.
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Truga posted:that's because you don't need more than 500 total. [x] amount of nitain measures a resource that numbers well above 500: amount of nitain needed divided by nitain alerts in a day (4?) 
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Tallgeese posted:There was a period where PVP was fun during the beam rework. So what you're saying is that the PvP mode very sensibly emphasizes weapons that require aim and precision instead of the AoE flamethrower that hits an entire zip code? I really need to get around to trying Conclave sooner or later.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:So what you're saying is that the PvP mode very sensibly emphasizes weapons that require aim and precision instead of the AoE flamethrower that hits an entire zip code? You're giving this way too much credit. This is Warframe, do you think that's the only broken thing there?
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Any recommended Umbral Paracesis builds? I can't help thinking that, with 5 forma in, this thing should be doing more damage
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Primed Fury or Shred from the log in reward? I’m not huge on melee weapons, but if fury is good enough I’d consider taking it.
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