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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Nah I'm pretty sure it varies from state to state.

Yeah, paying out vacation time is a matter of state law. You should still verify what the relevant state laws have to say, though.

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Asleep Style
Oct 20, 2010

Mniot posted:

Often worth a short talk with a lawyer. What you describe here doesn't sound legal. (I'm sure it's possible to set something like this up legally but in general in US employment, your vacation-time pay is yours and there's serious penalties for stealing wages from your employees. That's one reason why so many companies switched to "unlimited" vacation time.)

My understanding is that it varies pretty widely state by state and this happened to be in a state with pretty lovely labor rights. From my googling at the time I definitely came away with the feeling that I was pretty lucky to get my unspent PTO paid out. It absolutely should be illegal but :911:

asur
Dec 28, 2012

Mniot posted:

Often worth a short talk with a lawyer. What you describe here doesn't sound legal. (I'm sure it's possible to set something like this up legally but in general in US employment, your vacation-time pay is yours and there's serious penalties for stealing wages from your employees. That's one reason why so many companies switched to "unlimited" vacation time.)

Last time I checked in most states paying out PTO is not required and the only requirement is that the company be consistent.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

asur posted:

Last time I checked in most states paying out PTO is not required and the only requirement is that the company be consistent.

It really depends, and it is not always the states you would think of. For example, here's hotbed of workers' rights Louisiana:

quote:

In Louisiana, vacation pay is considered “wages” and, once vacation time has accumulated, it is the property of the employee. Thus, unused earned time for paid vacation must be paid at termination. (Beard v. Summit Institute of Pulmonary Medicine, 707 So.2d 1233 (La. Sup. Ct. 1998); (LA R.S. 23:631, 23:634, and 23:636).

Specifically, vacation pay will be considered an amount then due only if, in accordance with the stated vacation policy of the person employing such laborer or other employee, both of the following apply:

(a). The laborer or other employee is deemed eligible for and has accrued the right to take vacation time with pay.
(b). The laborer or other employee has not taken or been compensated for the vacation time as of the date of the discharge or resignation.
https://www.blr.com/Compensation/Benefits-Leave/Vacations-in-Louisiana

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Love Stole the Day posted:

I participate a lot in get-a-job chatrooms and communities, like this thread. Last year, in 2017, a guy in one of them who owned a small business took pity on me and offered to give me a few hours of doing some simple things so that I could at least have something to show on my resume as experience (most everything in my experience section is like that, really). He had been giving me a few hours of work per month to do as a 1099 contractor so that I could make it look on my resume like I had at least some kind of current experience. It was for doing simple game development tasks with the Unreal Engine, working on maintaining some old product of theirs that they didn't care much about anymore. This has been going on for a bit over a year now and has been my only source of income.

Often during this past year the guy who had been allowing me to do those few hours of work per month had been telling me that he'd try to get me an interview with another company that his company in turn does contracting work for, but nothing ever really happened.

Fast forward to a week or two ago, news came out that that company was apparently just bought out by Microsoft. The guy told me again that he'll try to set up an interview with them because his company still does contract work for them, but this time it actually lead to an interview. I did the interview with the person last week and this morning the guy sent me a message saying that they will make an offer to do 2 months with them as a full-time remote contractor and then they'll decide if they want to make it permanent and have me relocate back to the US. I've never turned down an offer before in my life, so I agreed... but nothing is signed or written down so I'm refusing to believe that this is all for real.

I've had close calls in the past (e.g. one time in 2017 a recruiter told me that there was a verbal offer, but then they ghosted me immediately afterward; also in 2015 after a few interviews one place said they were interested but it fell apart because I couldn't realistically start in 1 week), but it's something at least and is the first piece of non-bad news I've had all year. Since nothing is certain it doesn't really change anything in terms of my job search, though.

Hope it works out for you, dude

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Mr. Sophistication posted:

My name got changed but I'm rediscover and ya please make contributions to that so it looks better on my resume thank you

Hey, I just cloned this, but I don't see a to-do list anywhere. Do you have any known issues to look at? I noticed on the site that if you hit the back button on the pages that don't exist yet it's not working. I guess that's one thing?

e: pls dont doxx me tia.

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Hey, I just cloned this, but I don't see a to-do list anywhere. Do you have any known issues to look at? I noticed on the site that if you hit the back button on the pages that don't exist yet it's not working. I guess that's one thing?

e: pls dont doxx me tia.

I messaged him on Discord to ask if he can make some Github issues or a Trello board or something. If you have a Discord thing, PM me the info and I can get us into a group chat at the very least.

Mr. Sophistication
May 16, 2014

I know this wasn't your original avatar but I just love this game. Cheers, rediscover.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Hey, I just cloned this, but I don't see a to-do list anywhere. Do you have any known issues to look at? I noticed on the site that if you hit the back button on the pages that don't exist yet it's not working. I guess that's one thing?

e: pls dont doxx me tia.

Yeah sorry, I have no idea how to be the proprietor of an open source project. I just pushed an example .env file so that you can actually get the drat thing running lol. I'll work on adding issues to the github page, and you can PM me if you have any questions.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Hi thread, I had been keeping up with you for a long while once I got a job as a QA and I wanted to learn how to be an automation QA or become an outright developer. Because of Bad Manager Syndrome (not nearly on the level of Shirec's but still really bad) I am taking my career in another direction as a Technical Consultant where I will onboard new customers and build integrations between our software and WebMethods in the Professional Services department. I am making this post because I am curious if anyone is aware of a thread on these here forums where people may post about such things? I have the offer in hand and they are offering me zero raise where I should be getting at least 30% raise based on what I have found on GlassDoor and heard from other people in my company who I consulted with before applying for the position. I will be negotiating from a position of strength based on several factors but I want to make sure I do not go overboard/push too hard/ask for too much.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
The Negotiation Thread in BFC might be helpful to you.

Tatrakrad
May 14, 2007

I cited my sources and all he said was, "owned owned owned owned owned"
I quit my terrible startup job that I bitched about back in October after asking for a $15,000 raise (in response to more insane nonsense). I've met with a bunch of SUPER STOKED recruiters who promised me interviews within days at some pretty choice places to work.

I've been mostly ghosted over the last 3-4 weeks though. I got stood up for one remote interview and my phone screen at a super great consultancy ended after 6 minutes because they had to reschedule. I got a rejection email the next day.

Is this normal or am I a really toxic human being?

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Tatrakrad posted:

I quit my terrible startup job that I bitched about back in October after asking for a $15,000 raise (in response to more insane nonsense). I've met with a bunch of SUPER STOKED recruiters who promised me interviews within days at some pretty choice places to work.

I've been mostly ghosted over the last 3-4 weeks though. I got stood up for one remote interview and my phone screen at a super great consultancy ended after 6 minutes because they had to reschedule. I got a rejection email the next day.

Is this normal or am I a really toxic human being?

I don’t have a ton of experience with hiring in Silicon Valley but 100% of it has been complete bullshit.

To close a loop I started earlier Insight is back looking for redos on their lovely recruitment pipeline. I haven’t yet decided how hard to pass.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Tatrakrad posted:

I quit my terrible startup job that I bitched about back in October after asking for a $15,000 raise (in response to more insane nonsense). I've met with a bunch of SUPER STOKED recruiters who promised me interviews within days at some pretty choice places to work.

I've been mostly ghosted over the last 3-4 weeks though. I got stood up for one remote interview and my phone screen at a super great consultancy ended after 6 minutes because they had to reschedule. I got a rejection email the next day.

Is this normal or am I a really toxic human being?

recruiters are terrible and talking to them is 99% going to be a waste of your time.

Tatrakrad
May 14, 2007

I cited my sources and all he said was, "owned owned owned owned owned"

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

recruiters are terrible and talking to them is 99% going to be a waste of your time.

I couldn't even be bothered to make my resume into a Word doc for the Apex cruity who spent 20 minutes trying to convince me that 24/7 on call application support for a bank was a good job.

Meanwhile my roommate is trying to convince me to do part time temp\retail work but spending 3 years getting my foot in the door has made my ego fragile as hell

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


External recruiters are generally crap. I pretty much only deal with internal recruiters at this point.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Tatrakrad posted:

I've been mostly ghosted over the last 3-4 weeks though. I got stood up for one remote interview and my phone screen at a super great consultancy ended after 6 minutes because they had to reschedule. I got a rejection email the next day.

I am curious what you were asked/answered in those six minutes (!)

I mean, it seems unlikely that it was why they vanished on you that quickly, assuming you weren't on videoconferencing sawing a puppy's head off in the nude or something, but still.

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

recruiters are terrible and talking to them is 99% going to be a waste of your time.

ultrafilter posted:

External recruiters are generally crap. I pretty much only deal with internal recruiters at this point.

I'm up to about 1500 job applications so far this year alone (so about 4 applications per day, on average) and I sincerely believe that the majority of job postings on Indeed, LinkedIn, Monster, et al are just different external recruiters all posting for the same positions. So for every actual job out there, there's maybe a half dozen different recruiters posting for it several times per month, disguised in some way (usually under their own recruiting company's name).

Here's one of the more obvious examples of this: Job Opening #1 Job Opening #2. Clearly, two different employees at the same external recruiting firm have separately posted the exact same job opening. Not all of them are this obvious, though. Other times, they will put in absolutely no effort into the job opening and make it super obvious that they aren't actually hiring for their own company. Very often, they don't even bother disclosing the actual company name and will instead give you the impression that they are hiring for their own actual firm (which just so happens to have a generic software company-like name), but then when they get you on the phone they'll drop the act and run through a list of companies that they can try to sell you on applying for (except they'll just ghost you immediately after your call) after telling you how clear it is from your resume/profile that you're ever so passionate about software!

I was reading Seeking Alpha last Summer and I remember seeing this striking statistic: that even though the number of job openings is higher than ever (red line), the actual number of hires (blue line) isn't growing much at all. I really think that my own experience supports that observation, namely that even though it looks like everyone is hiring and therefore that the economy is doing better... it's actually not really as good as it looks.



A while back when I used to post monthly updates with my job search itt, I mentioned at one point that I felt like there were no actual React jobs out there. I remember one criticism of that was that a poster here had searched for React jobs on Indeed and saw tens of thousands of posts. I really think that number is a bunch of BS.

Love Stole the Day fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Dec 9, 2018

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Put together some more data and charts and you've got a frontpage HN blog post on your hands.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
That's how the recruiting industry works. Recruiters only get paid when they place someone, and it's usually competitive within the same recruiting firm - so if there are two postings from the same company, one by Recruiter A and one by Recruiter B, and you happen to reply to B and get hired, only B gets paid. Many people in recruiting are people whose only talent in the world is that they can speak English. They're just hoping lightning strikes and they can collect their 30% recruiting fee for making a few phone calls. If you're spending a lot of time talking to those kinds of people, that could be a reason why you're having trouble -- their incentives are to make an easy score, and "junior programmer who has to relocate from Korea" is not that.

Also, I'm the poster who criticized you using job numbers. I looked back and the number I found for React jobs in NYC was 2,767, which is not "tens of thousands". If you think there's a 6:1 ratio of timewasting crap to open positions, you can divide that number by 6 and you're still left with several hundred. Even if you think there's a 9:1 ratio, that's over 200, which seems low considering we're trying to guess how many positions are open for React in NYC.

Tatrakrad
May 14, 2007

I cited my sources and all he said was, "owned owned owned owned owned"

feedmegin posted:

I am curious what you were asked/answered in those six minutes (!)

"Tell me about your last project".

I didn't realize how hard it was to be coherent to an actual engineer about what I was doing for the cursed startup. I can pitch it to cruitys and such but I tripped over myself trying to explain why we were doing things from a technical perspective.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe
Note to self: When doing a one hour coding challenge, do NOT for one second contemplate architecture or asymptotic optimisations. JUST loving CODE. I didnt even solve their easiest example because I was working in 'this needs to be readable, maintainable and not run o(n^2)' mode.

I guess working in a newish language to me (and a systems language at that) didn't help me out either. I should just go with JS next time.

Joda fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Dec 9, 2018

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

fantastic in plastic posted:

Also, I'm the poster who criticized you using job numbers. I looked back and the number I found for React jobs in NYC was 2,767, which is not "tens of thousands". If you think there's a 6:1 ratio of timewasting crap to open positions, you can divide that number by 6 and you're still left with several hundred. Even if you think there's a 9:1 ratio, that's over 200, which seems low considering we're trying to guess how many positions are open for React in NYC.

yeah but like, there's something of a problem in that

a) external recruiters are useless for new programmers because they can't really place you unless you have x years experience.
b) external recruiters are useless for senior devs because they offer poo poo pay for jobs with ridiculous requirements. what kind of 5 year dev gets paid 90k anywhere in the united states? that's like slavery with extra steps.

worse still, on the off chance that the external recruiter gets you in front of the in-house people, chances are they'll make you do gross poo poo to linked lists on a whiteboard and bark like a trained seal. gently caress that poo poo.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

External recruiters are great to get an idea of what you're worth and to get practice interviews in at places you don't care about :snoop:

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you
As a quick piece of advice for people who are looking for more attention from recruiters for whatever reason: in my case, there were two big up-ticks in recruiter spam to my LinkedIn account:
  • When I changed my location to NYC, a wave of about a dozen messages from recruiters per week started arriving in my message inbox.
  • When my current "experience" on my profile got to the 11-month mark, another huge wave of another dozen or so messages on top of that started arriving in my message inbox. It only lasted until the 13-month mark, so I imagine that LinkedIn's algorithm must prioritize people who are at or near their "work anniversary" with whatever their current "experience" is on their profile.

So if you're looking for more recruiter spam, change your location to a large urban tech hub and make your profile look like it has a current "experience" at the 10 or 11 month mark.

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you
An update about my previous post here:

Love Stole the Day posted:

Fast forward to a week or two ago, news came out that that company was apparently just bought out by Microsoft. The guy told me again that he'll try to set up an interview with them because his company still does contract work for them, but this time it actually lead to an interview. I did the interview with the person last week and this morning the guy sent me a message saying that they will make an offer to do 2 months with them as a full-time remote contractor and then they'll decide if they want to make it permanent and have me relocate back to the US. I've never turned down an offer before in my life, so I agreed... but nothing is signed or written down so I'm refusing to believe that this is all for real.

I've had close calls in the past (e.g. one time in 2017 a recruiter told me that there was a verbal offer, but then they ghosted me immediately afterward; also in 2015 after a few interviews one place said they were interested but it fell apart because I couldn't realistically start in 1 week), but it's something at least and is the first piece of non-bad news I've had all year. Since nothing is certain it doesn't really change anything in terms of my job search, though.

They told me that I got the thing and so I started keeping regular hours yesterday, which means I'm staying up all night (so basically working a sort of night shift due to the timezone difference). I just found out that even though I need to be present and available for the 8 hours per weekday (i.e. 40 hours per week), I can only mark the hours when I'm actually working on something as billable instead of just the hours I'm present. I guess that's fine but I feel bad because I thought it was going to be a much better deal than it actually is. Maybe I was just ignorant of how that works.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Love Stole the Day posted:

An update about my previous post here:


They told me that I got the thing and so I started keeping regular hours yesterday, which means I'm staying up all night (so basically working a sort of night shift due to the timezone difference). I just found out that even though I need to be present and available for the 8 hours per weekday (i.e. 40 hours per week), I can only mark the hours when I'm actually working on something as billable instead of just the hours I'm present. I guess that's fine but I feel bad because I thought it was going to be a much better deal than it actually is. Maybe I was just ignorant of how that works.
it's worth asking a coworker about billing - when i was a contractor i discovered that no one really cared about the time-sheet as long as you hit the 40 hours and you could pretty much just submit the same one every week. YMMV

it was also nice to be discouraged from working overtime, and getting paid time and a half when i did.

downout
Jul 6, 2009

Love Stole the Day posted:

An update about my previous post here:


They told me that I got the thing and so I started keeping regular hours yesterday, which means I'm staying up all night (so basically working a sort of night shift due to the timezone difference). I just found out that even though I need to be present and available for the 8 hours per weekday (i.e. 40 hours per week), I can only mark the hours when I'm actually working on something as billable instead of just the hours I'm present. I guess that's fine but I feel bad because I thought it was going to be a much better deal than it actually is. Maybe I was just ignorant of how that works.

I'd definitely talk to someone about that because if you are present and available, then you should be getting paid. If required to be present, but don't have something to work on (assigned, etc), then that's their problem. Obviously, you should speak up about it, but I've had managers say, 'well we've got nothing for you to do so go do training'. Whatever, still getting paid.

Vincent Valentine
Feb 28, 2006

Murdertime

Being paid for training sounds loving rad you should do that.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Vincent Valentine posted:

Being paid for training sounds loving rad you should do that.

At my current job all new engineers first job is, for the first ~3 months, to watch Pluralsight. Literally 12 weeks of paychecks to learn. Current job owns bones

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Just put in my three months notice (Europe LMAO). Excited to start job-hunting again.

Would people say that having an up-to-date LinkedIn is essential? I'm not entirely comfortable with putting everything on my CV to be publicly visible, but from what everyone is saying it seems like the main avenue to getting decent offers these days.

TheCog
Jul 30, 2012

I AM ZEPA AND I CLAIM THESE LANDS BY RIGHT OF CONQUEST

Private Speech posted:

Just put in my three months notice (Europe LMAO). Excited to start job-hunting again.

Would people say that having an up-to-date LinkedIn is essential? I'm not entirely comfortable with putting everything on my CV to be publicly visible, but from what everyone is saying it seems like the main avenue to getting decent offers these days.

People check linkedin, at least in the states, so yes, I'd argue you should have it up to date.

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Private Speech posted:

Would people say that having an up-to-date LinkedIn is essential? I'm not entirely comfortable with putting everything on my CV to be publicly visible, but from what everyone is saying it seems like the main avenue to getting decent offers these days.

What sort of things are private? You don't have to spill company secrets, but you should be able to describe your contributions without running afoul of your employer. In the absolute worst case look at the hiring criteria for your current position, all of that is public information right now.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


It's more the case of where I worked. I don't mind my future employers knowing, or calling the company seeing as I'm leaving on good terms, but I feel a bit queasy about every random person online being able to find out with a quick google search.

I'll give it some thought, I don't think I'll be having trouble finding a place even without it, but maybe I'll just bite the bullet.

asur
Dec 28, 2012
You can block your profile from logged out users I believe which I think should indirectly block it from search engines. There may also be a setting specific for that.

Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings

Private Speech posted:

It's more the case of where I worked. I don't mind my future employers knowing, or calling the company seeing as I'm leaving on good terms, but I feel a bit queasy about every random person online being able to find out with a quick google search.

I'll give it some thought, I don't think I'll be having trouble finding a place even without it, but maybe I'll just bite the bullet.

Broadly speaking: If you're notable enough that people would care, they'd already know. Otherwise you're just one more person on the internet no more interesting than anyone else.

Mr. Sophistication
May 16, 2014

I know this wasn't your original avatar but I just love this game. Cheers, rediscover.

Private Speech posted:

It's more the case of where I worked. I don't mind my future employers knowing, or calling the company seeing as I'm leaving on good terms, but I feel a bit queasy about every random person online being able to find out with a quick google search.

I'll give it some thought, I don't think I'll be having trouble finding a place even without it, but maybe I'll just bite the bullet.

This is a little neurotic mate.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Well I do have a rather stalkery ex for one, and some of my friends don't know where I worked and might have questions if they found out, and both of these have LinkedIn accounts.

But I'll look through the privacy options I guess.

Keetron
Sep 26, 2008

Check out my enormous testicles in my TFLC log!

Private Speech posted:

Well I do have a rather stalkery ex for one, and some of my friends don't know where I worked and might have questions if they found out, and both of these have LinkedIn accounts.

But I'll look through the privacy options I guess.

You need a restraining order for that ex, less judgmental so-called friends and a LinkedIn account if you want to be able to get a job you enjoy.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
tbh I agree that we should be able to keep our professional lives more private. But that's just not the way things are nowadays.

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
I don't have a LinkedIn account because the first time I signed up, my step-dad immediately tried to add me as a contact and I went, "What's the point of this?" and deleted my account, then the second time I signed up, LinkedIn recommended me some contacts, including a cheating ex-girlfriend, so I deleted my account again. Now I can't use either of my commonly used email addresses, without contacting Customer Service, because they're associated with deleted accounts.

Am I actually missing anything?

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