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Shaggar posted:she might see an ad for diapers on tv so we shouldn't limit this advertising ban to the internet. agreed, behead all advertisers in the public square
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Shaggar posted:she might see an ad for diapers on tv so we shouldn't limit this advertising ban to the internet. shaggar was right
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lol at elvis being included among the representatives of the cultures and religions of the world
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infernal machines posted:yeah, you could definitely ask the entire online advertising industry to just stop, wholesale. i mean, there's a predictable response to that, but you could ask. i mean, i could ask, by way of my government, and they could refuse. but even though my government has a really rather lovely army i don't think the ad industry has even a single fighter jet it is not at all an easy thing to do, but the eu has started and it is something one can work on. there is no fundamental reason why the ad industry should get to build models of individual people.
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Dec 12, 2018 19:33
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infernal machines posted:yeah, you could definitely ask the entire online advertising industry to just stop, wholesale. i mean, there's a predictable response to that, but you could ask. amazon can't even figure out that after i looked at a buncha toasters and then bought one that now i am no longer in the market for a toaster
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Dec 12, 2018 19:38
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:amazon can't even figure out that after i looked at a buncha toasters and then bought one that now i am no longer in the market for a toaster you'd think they could get this right; like surely if you bought a shiny new toaster it'd be greater value to show you ads for a shiny new microwave or coffee maker or something?
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:amazon can't even figure out that after i looked at a buncha toasters and then bought one that now i am no longer in the market for a toaster i understand why adtech is bad at a lot of things but this is the one that continues to confound me. how are they unable to know you bought the thing and not start servings ads for the next things you might want based on what you bought
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Dec 12, 2018 19:54
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the one thing that nobody is willing to do is not show any kind of ad when there's nothing good to show
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:amazon can't even figure out that after i looked at a buncha toasters and then bought one that now i am no longer in the market for a toaster my girlfriend got a bunch of recommendations for baby stuff after buying a menstrual cup
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Enderzero posted:i understand why adtech is bad at a lot of things but this is the one that continues to confound me. how are they unable to know you bought the thing and not start servings ads for the next things you might want based on what you bought because its intentional, it's a farce to give good reports. why do you need to tell your Cuisinart client that you've spent their money showing ad 5000 people that just bought a toaster when you can instead say you showed 50,000 people that looked at a toaster and look thats good metric! the more obsfucation and more displays the better also qirex posted:the one thing that nobody is willing to do is not show any kind of ad when there's nothing good to show
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Dec 12, 2018 19:58
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Endless Mike posted:my girlfriend got a bunch of recommendations for baby stuff after buying a menstrual cup lol
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Endless Mike posted:my girlfriend got a bunch of recommendations for baby stuff after buying a menstrual cup WE NOTICED YOU WERE A WOMAN, AND THUS YOU WILL BE HAVING KIDS, RIGHT? WE ARE SO SMART
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Enderzero posted:i understand why adtech is bad at a lot of things but this is the one that continues to confound me. how are they unable to know you bought the thing and not start servings ads for the next things you might want based on what you bought like you can even classify things based on "durable goods", I'm sure that's already stored somewhere, and just not show people durable goods of the same kind if they just bought one, it seems incredibly simple and I feel like we're either missing something (maybe people do buy a second toaster often enough to make it worthwhile???) or amazon is staffed by tens of thousands of complete morons i wonder which it is 
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FERTILITY DETECTED... SENDING AD
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actually now that i'm thinking about it, when i went in to buy my car they tried to sell me a second car so maybe it's just one of those cargo-cult Marketing Things that nobody questions? if someone does it once ever that's just clear evidence that it works and you're MISSING SALES if you don't do it!!!
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hell, youtube intentionally recommends videos to you that you've already watched i wouldn't be at all surprised that some nonzero number of people are buying multiple toasters or returning them in favor of a different one and that this ad behavior is intentional in order to capture some tiny minority of sales
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Dec 12, 2018 20:20
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qirex posted:the one thing that nobody is willing to do is not show any kind of ad when there's nothing good to show i want to thank whoever it was itt that suggested blocking every advertiser you see on twitter because eventually you start getting absurd poo poo. last night i got an ad for some kid’s graduation photos in kentucky and an ad entirely in arabic from the saudi hiking foundation it’s great
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Dec 12, 2018 20:20
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i get all kindsa ads from bizarre silicon valley businesses offering inscrutable services now there appears to be an endless supply of them
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Rex-Goliath posted:i want to thank whoever it was itt that suggested blocking every advertiser you see on twitter because eventually you start getting absurd poo poo. last night i got an ad for some kid’s graduation photos in kentucky and an ad entirely in arabic from the saudi hiking foundation there's a blocklist that blocks all the S&P 500 companies' accounts or something that was going around a while ago, idk where to find it though (and would appreciate it if someone links it  )
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Dec 12, 2018 20:26
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:hell, youtube intentionally recommends videos to you that you've already watched doing this makes sense for music videos or comedy clips or other videos that people are likely to want to watch again
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Dec 12, 2018 20:26
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pseudorandom name posted:doing this makes sense for music videos or comedy clips or other videos that people are likely to want to watch again yeah i will admit sometimes if i see a video i've seen (but haven't seen for a while) and remember liking a lot, sometimes i'll click it and re-watch it  probably wouldn't buy my favorite toaster over again though
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Dec 12, 2018 20:28
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gently caress i'd start with gender > 1.3
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Shame Boy posted:actually now that i'm thinking about it, when i went in to buy my car they tried to sell me a second car so maybe it's just one of those cargo-cult Marketing Things that nobody questions? if someone does it once ever that's just clear evidence that it works and you're MISSING SALES if you don't do it!!! did you buy a dodge. they were definitely selling cars buy one get one for a bit there to clear inventory. the problem was that instead of getting one bad car, you get two bad cars.
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Shaggar posted:she might see an ad for diapers on tv so we shouldn't limit this advertising ban to the internet. she's likely under 55 years of age and thus probably won't see an ad for diapers on broadcast tv because nobody under that age sits down and watches realtime broadcast television. It's not really a good comparison
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Xaris posted:because its intentional, it's a farce to give good reports. why do you need to tell your Cuisinart client that you've spent their money showing ad 5000 people that just bought a toaster when you can instead say you showed 50,000 people that looked at a toaster and look thats good metric! the more obsfucation and more displays the better oh poo poo, i think i get it now. i was thinking, they fuckin love CONVERSIONS, and thus how could it be better to show an ad to someone who already bought something when instead, if someone bought a bike, amazon could show ads for helmets and bike lights and tire pumps and poo poo people would reasonably need, but the first company doesnt give a gently caress about the second company making a sale based off purchase of the first thing - but they probably do care that their ad was showed to a bunch of people (ignore that a bunch of them have left the funnel dont look back there). does that track because i can't imagine any other reason why companies wouldnt want to boost incremental revenue
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Endless Mike posted:did you buy a dodge. they were definitely selling cars buy one get one for a bit there to clear inventory. nah a nissan, he saw my wife was with me and launched into WHY SHARE ONE CAR WHEN YOU CAN DRIVE AWAY WITH TWO RIGHT NOW!!!
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Shame Boy posted:nah a nissan, he saw my wife was with me and launched into WHY SHARE ONE CAR WHEN YOU CAN DRIVE AWAY WITH TWO RIGHT NOW!!! the thing is that this actually works
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i'm just pulling it out of my rear end but the reason amazon probably likes to show you things you've already purchased is because their system is not designed to factor in items you've already purchased probably for some reason of tractability and it not being enough of a high priority issue
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Shame Boy posted:actually now that i'm thinking about it, when i went in to buy my car they tried to sell me a second car so maybe it's just one of those cargo-cult Marketing Things that nobody questions? if someone does it once ever that's just clear evidence that it works and you're MISSING SALES if you don't do it!!! it absolutely is. buy a keyboard on amazon and enjoy constant suggestions for buying more and more keyboards because oh boy you sure must love typing
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lancemantis posted:i'm just pulling it out of my rear end but the reason amazon probably likes to show you things you've already purchased is because their website is absolutely terrible
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Chalks posted:it absolutely is. buy a keyboard on amazon and enjoy constant suggestions for buying more and more keyboards because oh boy you sure must love typing thats why i just subscribe and save and get a fresh 'board every 3 months
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Dec 12, 2018 21:07
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:we crave lower taxes
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Plank Walker posted:thats why i just subscribe and save and get a fresh 'board every 3 months 
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Enderzero posted:oh poo poo, i think i get it now. i was thinking, they fuckin love CONVERSIONS, and thus how could it be better to show an ad to someone who already bought something when instead, if someone bought a bike, amazon could show ads for helmets and bike lights and tire pumps and poo poo people would reasonably need, but the first company doesnt give a gently caress about the second company making a sale based off purchase of the first thing - but they probably do care that their ad was showed to a bunch of people (ignore that a bunch of them have left the funnel dont look back there). does that track because i can't imagine any other reason why companies wouldnt want to boost incremental revenue adtech n ad companies want just enough tracking to be able to tell ford that they're totes showing lots of people lots of ads (any publicity is good publicity idiot idiom), and if the numbers dont look good then they want just enough vague data that can be made up because metrics arent precise enough to audit, and ad-buyers like Ford or cuissinart want to be told that they're totes being given to ###### "targetted" users and look how good the shareholders and ur boss will be pleased and no one peeks under the rug.
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i always found nerds sperging about keyboards to be a great example of how people will run around fiddling with things they have control over to avoid addressing the crushing things they have no control over like the entire management chain puts us in crunch mode constantly, but hey I get to use Dvorak!
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What is the point of owning multiple keyboards when you can just own the lord's keyboard i.e. the pok3r? This person apparently has 2.
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