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X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

Edge & Christian posted:

Batman is looking at the reader like "Yeah, I know. I'm embarrassed too."

# ? Dec 12, 2018 15:44

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Edge & Christian posted:

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# ? Dec 12, 2018 15:46

Covok: May 27, 2013; Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

I heard Batman the Damned #2 ends on a big rape scene. It upset some people on the r/comicbooks discord. No idea if true, but I believe it.

So, trigger warning to those planning to read Batman the Damned #2. I'm mentioning this unironically, I'm not the type to ironically say "Trigger Warning."

# ? Dec 12, 2018 15:53

X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

Covok posted:

I heard Batman the Damned #2 ends on a big rape scene. It upset some people on the r/comicbooks discord. No idea if true, but I believe it.

So, trigger warning to those planning to read Batman the Damned #2. I'm mentioning this unironically, I'm not the type to ironically say "Trigger Warning."

I've seen the panels posted elsewhere. It's real gross.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 16:05

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Do Black label books have a content warning on the front? You just know some parent is going to buy that as a random stocking stuffer for their kid without looking inside.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 16:12

Edge & Christian: May 20, 2001; Earth-1145 is truly the best!
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To be fair the scene is Harley Quinn Dressed as Joker drugging and attempting to rape Batman, but then a drugged Batman rages out and strangles her to death while Harley does some Azztastic "NO MEANS YES" wordplay

Skwirl posted:

Do Black label books have a content warning on the front? You just know some parent is going to buy that as a random stocking stuffer for their kid without looking inside.

If a parent goes into a specialty comic shop and gravitates towards the most expensive comic on the shelf with this cover

and doesn't bother flipping through it and then gets surprised at the content I'd argue that might be on them.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 16:29

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Edge & Christian posted:

To be fair the scene is Harley Quinn Dressed as Joker drugging and attempting to rape Batman, but then a drugged Batman rages out and strangles her to death while Harley does some Azztastic "NO MEANS YES" wordplay
If a parent goes into a specialty comic shop and gravitates towards the most expensive comic on the shelf with this cover

and doesn't bother flipping through it and then gets surprised at the content I'd argue that might be on them.

I hadn't seen the cover and just figured it'd be a newish book with the word Batman on it. I figured it would be like when the BvS movie came out and on free comic book day the only comic with both Batman and Superman in it was Future's End prologue with dismemberment and other weird body horror cyborgs.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 16:40

site: Apr 6, 2007; Trans pride, Worldwide
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if youre giving people a trigger warning why are you putting the issue in question behind a spoiler block

Edge & Christian posted:

Harley Quinn Dressed as Joker drugging and attempting to rape Batman, but then a drugged Batman rages out and strangles her to death while Harley does some Azztastic "NO MEANS YES" wordplay

site fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 12, 2018

# ? Dec 12, 2018 16:41

X-O: Apr 28, 2002; Long Live The King!

Edge & Christian posted:

To be fair the scene is Harley Quinn Dressed as Joker drugging and attempting to rape Batman, but then a drugged Batman rages out and strangles her to death while Harley does some Azztastic "NO MEANS YES" wordplay

Bill Finger is looking down with pride I'm sure.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 17:03

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Morrison explains why he doesn't like Watchmen

Grant Morrison posted:

I�ve read Watchmen many times. The reasons that I hated it when I was 25 are still there, but now I kinda like it because I�m older and I like the structure and I�m quite in awe of the absoluteness of it. But for all the same reasons, I hated it.

The fact that none of the characters were allowed to be smarter than the author, that really drove me nuts. The world�s smartest man is an idiot. He makes a plan all his life that is undone by the end of the book in an instant. The psychiatrist sits with Rorschach for five minutes and Rorschach tells a super banal story of how he became a vigilante and the psychiatrist cracks. If you�re a criminal psychiatrist who deals with men in prison, you�ve heard a million of these stories. It was all to make a specific point about how the real world isn�t like superhero comics,

In my school, I was taught in this Scottish Presbyterian way that structure is hidden: you don�t see the writer�s mechanics. Watchmen, you can�t turn the page without him saying �Look at me, look at me, look at me.� Okay, we get it, man. You got thrown out of school at 16 for dealing acid, you�re clever.

I took potshots at him in the media. I was the first person to say Watchmen wasn�t very good � in fact, the only person to ever say that. And that made him angry so then I would get worse. I said that Watchmen was the 300-page equivalent of a sixth-form poem. That kind of trash talk, I�d brought from being in the band because that�s what you�re like in a band. I�d brought all that across with me to comics and it didn�t go down well. I think it genuinely upset him.

Alan Moore didn�t speak to me after that and would take his own little shots. He called Arkham Asylum a �gilded turd.� Since then, I�ve had nothing to do with him and he�s got nothing to do with me. A lot of comic fans like to think there�s some feud but a feud would actually need to involve people�s interest. I read his stuff, he reads my stuff � he pretends he doesn�t, but he does.

It was the archetypal struggle, and it wasn�t fair, �cause I love his work. Well, there�s a lot of it I don�t like, but of course, he�s great. We grew up in a very similar time even though I�m a little bit younger than him. It�s the same influences from �60s TV and �70s TV and the books we read, sci-fi, all that stuff, same comics. And the fact that he got into magic� it�s two people who are so similar but so utterly different that there has to be a feud.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/exclusive-grant-morrison-opens-up-about-feuding-with-a-1831011198

# ? Dec 12, 2018 18:45

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

Never mind Damned. We also get Tomasi and Tom Taylor Batman this Batweek

edit: Also, Snyder and Jock back. As much as I don't care about that Batman Who Laughs dude, that's probably good stuff.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Dec 12, 2018

# ? Dec 12, 2018 18:47

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Morrison explains why he doesn't like Watchmen

https://io9.gizmodo.com/exclusive-grant-morrison-opens-up-about-feuding-with-a-1831011198

Oh. I always thought that the quasi-feud between the two started when Morrison had to point out to an interviewer that Moore is not a generation older than him just because he has a big beard, was therefore not a formative influence on him, and that he was actually published first, and Moore took it personally.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 18:57

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Halloween Jack posted:

Oh. I always thought that the quasi-feud between the two started when Morrison had to point out to an interviewer that Moore is not a generation older than him just because he has a big beard, was therefore not a formative influence on him, and that he was actually published first, and Moore took it personally.

Moore seemed to actually be unaware of that and it appears to have really pissed him off.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 20:32

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

Moore's doing fine.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:00

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Rhyno posted:

Moore seemed to actually be unaware of that and it appears to have really pissed him off.

It strikes me as odd because Moore has been very frank about starting off as a bad artist before becoming a good writer, and it's not like he has any reason to feel inferior because Morrison wrote for, like, Starblazer before Moore did.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:07

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Halloween Jack posted:

It strikes me as odd because Moore has been very frank about starting off as a bad artist before becoming a good writer, and it's not like he has any reason to feel inferior because Morrison wrote for, like, Starblazer before Moore did.

I can't find the interviews or anything but if I remember correctly, Moore made a very clear point that G-Mo came up much later than he did and it really dounds like he didn't like being wrong about it.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:14

Arkhams Razor: Jun 10, 2009

I'd probably find Morrisons' statements on Moore more compelling if they weren't something he felt a need to bring up cyclically whenever he needed to give an interview.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:17

BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007; There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Morrison explains why he doesn't like Watchmen

https://io9.gizmodo.com/exclusive-grant-morrison-opens-up-about-feuding-with-a-1831011198

Oh Grant. Sometimes I get kinda ambivalent about you and then you go and say such great things like this :love:

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:17

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Arkhams Razor posted:

I'd probably find Morrisons' statements on Moore more compelling if they weren't something he felt a need to bring up cyclically whenever he needed to give an interview.

I think Grant is trying to get a rise out of Alan for some reason.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:24

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

I mean Morrison just seems to be a prick.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:29

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; Fallen Rib

To be fair, I kind of agree with Moore and Arkham Asylum.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:29

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

I can't blame him for trolling the remarkably humourless goth wizard pornographer.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:31

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Halloween Jack posted:

I can't blame him for trolling the remarkably humourless goth wizard pornographer.

Morrison is a wizard too?

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:39

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

CharlestheHammer posted:

Morrison is a wizard too?

He does practice chaos magik, yes.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:41

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Morrison is a wizard too?

Yup.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:42

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Are we sure Morrison and Moore aren�t the same guy

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:47

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

CharlestheHammer posted:

Morrison is a wizard too?

He's also written pornography and is possibly a Siouxsie Sioux fan, but seems to have an appropriate lack of self-seriousness.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 21:50

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

CharlestheHammer posted:

Are we sure Morrison and Moore aren�t the same guy

I've sure never seen them together.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 22:06

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; Fallen Rib

One has a shitload of hair and one doesn't have any hair so I can see Morrison throwing on a wig and fake beard and becoming Alan Moore.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 22:21

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Maybe that's the final part if the spell.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 22:35

BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007; There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

Willow's WW run hasn't really blown me away yet, though it's been likable enough. This Diana...really reminds me of "movie Diana," which certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, though it makes me wonder where exactly Wilson is..."headed?"...with this whole thing.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 22:51

^burtle: Jul 17, 2001; God of Boomin'

Moore may or may not be a wizard but Morrison did a spell by jackin off and yelling "STEAL YO GIRL" to obtain his current wife, so take from that what you will.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 23:21

Edge & Christian: May 20, 2001; Earth-1145 is truly the best!
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It has been awhile since I read it but I always though Morrison was poking fun at Moore/himself/their feud with Seven Soldiers: Manhattan Guardian, where there was an ongoing war in the subways between two mentally ill pirates dabbling in magic named Allbeard and Nobeard.

# ? Dec 12, 2018 23:30

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I could see G-Mo being sore that Moore got so deep into DC's collective cabeza that they're still writing responses to Watchmen, including a loving sequel series, although I would in turn agree with G-Mo that that particular horse has been dead for a while.

# ? Dec 13, 2018 00:44

Wheat Loaf: Feb 13, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Halloween Jack posted:

Oh. I always thought that the quasi-feud between the two started when Morrison had to point out to an interviewer that Moore is not a generation older than him just because he has a big beard, was therefore not a formative influence on him, and that he was actually published first, and Moore took it personally.

There was some kind of story where Morrison said Dez Skinn had invited him to pitch Miracleman stories after Moore quit then Moore heard about it and through some kind of sinister machinations got the plug pulled on it and got Skinn to hire Gaiman instead. Of course I've also heard that Gaiman was already lined up to replace Moore before Moore's run finished, so who knows?

# ? Dec 13, 2018 00:45

Space Fish: Oct 14, 2008; The original Big Tuna.

BrianWilly posted:

Willow's WW run hasn't really blown me away yet, though it's been likable enough. This Diana...really reminds me of "movie Diana," which certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, though it makes me wonder where exactly Wilson is..."headed?"...with this whole thing.

I read the first issue of Wilson's WW and liked it, then saw examples of the next issue's art and tapped the brakes. Does the third issue hold up visually?

# ? Dec 13, 2018 00:51

BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007; There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

It's about the same. Not much better, not much worse. I personally don't like it much either but it's not breaking the book for me or anything.

# ? Dec 13, 2018 01:16

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

I'm stuck at work and haven't read anything yet. How good is the Batman stuff between the new Detective, the Batman Annual and Da Batman Who Laughs?
This also looks like the week we'll see Jon Kent aged up for the first time :ohdear: