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Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Result's due in 15 minutes...

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


brexiteers take my energy つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1072937596597211136

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
gently caress

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


lmao imagine having confidence in Theresa May

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Here are the results.

For May: 200

Against May: 117

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity


Don't most of those parties want to avoid Brexit altogether or ensure a closer relationship than in the withdrawal agreement, while the ERG wants a no deal exit? That's gonna be a good partnership.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

wouldn't this trigger an election? sounds like a bad idea if you want brexit to happen

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Lost me at "non-binding"

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Bryter posted:

gently caress

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

brugroffil posted:

lmao imagine having confidence in Theresa May

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Gum posted:

Lost me at "non-binding"

opposition should vote for non binding because it leaves may in charge to gently caress up more but now even angrier

I just realized may is just british Hillary Clinton lmao

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
That's not fair she spent some time actually in charge of the country

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer
jesus the replies to this

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1072871538079092737

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1072961182221377536?s=19

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
So 200 out of 650 MPs have confidence in the prime minister. Strong and stable!

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

what if I told you Universal Credit was a good thing

:chillpill:

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



interesting that the party has confidence on someone that they will immediately scapegoat the moment poo poo hits the fan and get replaced by another goat moments later

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
it's cool how the UK constructed a parliament no confidence vote in which either outcome is extremely lol

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

she finally made it out of the car!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Moridin920 posted:

it's cool how the UK constructed a parliament no confidence vote in which either outcome is extremely lol

This was a Tory party no confidence vote

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Cao Ni Ma posted:

interesting that the party has confidence on someone that they will immediately scapegoat the moment poo poo hits the fan and get replaced by another goat moments later

they have confidence in her to be a very effective scapegoat when the anti-tory campaign next election is "why did these morons break absolutely everything"

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Bryter posted:

Only 1.4% of DUP members consider themselves Irish at all. For a lot of them it would be a contradiction.

Well yeah, it seems like the hardcore Unionists have come in the modern era to think of the word as being synonymous with Republicans and their cultural symbology.

quote:

Whenever Paisley and older unionists said it, they meant exactly the same thing as Dubliners did. Hell, Carson was a Dubliner.

Somehow I don't think Paisely meant "Irish" in the sense of Catholicism, Irish Gaelic, and independence from London like Irish nationalists would mean it.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

the bitcoin of weed posted:

they have confidence in her to be a very effective scapegoat when the anti-tory campaign next election is "why did these morons break absolutely everything"

"And you chose to keep her"

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Raskolnikov38 posted:

wouldn't this trigger an election? sounds like a bad idea if you want brexit to happen

Technically no, the government would have to resign, but parliament doesn't have to be dissolved. Labour could be given a chance to form a minority or coalition government: the first Labour government was actually formed in exactly those circumstances.

But realistically, yes an election would be unavoidable.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Another day of theatrics by which nothing has changed

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Norton the First posted:

So 200 out of 650 MPs have confidence in the prime minister. Strong and stable!

You do know this was just the Tories voting right?

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Regarde Aduck posted:

You do know this was just the Tories voting right?

how likely are all of the non-Tory MP's to have confidence in May though

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Regarde Aduck posted:

You do know this was just the Tories voting right?

The opposition probably doesn't have confidence in May either.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

sullat posted:

The opposition probably doesn't have confidence in May either.

The DUP said they are not interfering with Tory stuff so there's that.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Trainee PornStar posted:

The DUP said they are not interfering with Tory stuff so there's that.

so 210 then

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Grape posted:

Well yeah, it seems like the hardcore Unionists have come in the modern era to think of the word as being synonymous with Republicans and their cultural symbology.

Not even especially hardcore unionists. I have plenty of apolitical relatives from mainstream culturally unionist background who would never think to call themselves Irish.

Grape posted:

Somehow I don't think Paisely meant "Irish" in the sense of Catholicism, Irish Gaelic, and independence from London like Irish nationalists would mean it.

That's not what Irishness meant in the early 20th century, as I think you acknowledged in your previous sentence (?). It's like how today Scottish unionists and nationalists don't mean fundamentally different things when they identify as Scottish.

Bryter has issued a correction as of 23:01 on Dec 12, 2018

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Regarde Aduck posted:

You do know this was just the Tories voting right?

I mean, maybe a few Lib Dems and DUPs have confidence in May on top of that, but that's it.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Bryter posted:

Not even especially hardcore unionists. I have plenty of apolitical relatives from mainstream culturally unionist background who would never think to call themselves Irish.

That's interesting, like a reverse of Cyprus.

quote:

That's not what Irishness meant in the early 20th century, as I think you acknowledged in your previous sentence (?). It's like how today Scottish unionists and nationalists don't mean fundamentally different things when they identify as Scottish.

Ah I think I know what you mean now, my mistake.

Dick Milhous Rock!
Aug 9, 1974

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

outy posted:

According to "the internet" you get a Tory name by using a grandparent's first name and the first street you lived on hyphenated with your first head teacher's surname. Typical nonsense, however James Queensferry-Morgan sounds pretty Tory to me.

William Cutter-West

well drat

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

This week has been one hell of a rollercoaster.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Phrosphor posted:

This week has been one hell of a rollercoaster.

It isn't over yet, she still has a bunch of European ministers to slap her in the face for a few days.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/addamschloe/status/1072248188504035328?s=19

I didn't know Prime Minister was originally an insult, but apparently it's true, it was first said to pejoratively compare someone to Cardinal Richelieu

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Spiderfist Island
Feb 19, 2011
I'm watching this all from the States- so assuming there's not a general vote of no confidence by the House of Commons later (hahaha), did May's survival of the internal party vote change anything about the balance of power within the Tory caucus, or the Commons as a whole? Because from what I understand she still has such a shallow group of reliable supporters that she still has to rely on fair weather allies and the like to fill major ministerial positions. Plus, the government still has absolutely no leverage going into talks with the EU. It just looks like there's going to be either No Deal or an "extra-constitutional resolution" to this that forces through the current EU deal at this point.

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