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Asphyxious posted:Does any footlocker/box/cooler just connect to your stash? I built a medical clinic and I want to have meds that just anyone can take but I worry that’s straight up impossible. think so iirc, the container category is actually called stashes
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Asphyxious posted:Does any footlocker/box/cooler just connect to your stash? I built a medical clinic and I want to have meds that just anyone can take but I worry that’s straight up impossible. You could leave them in a bags on the ground in a line by your house and I'm sure one person won't take all of them.
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Rinkles posted:think so Well shock and horror for this game but that’s loving stupid.
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Tenzarin posted:You could leave them in a bags on the ground in a line by your house and I'm sure one person won't take all of them. The bags just vanish eventually. I get that it’s just holdovers from fallout 4’s crafting but really being able to label chests around your house for literally zero reason is a bit sad.
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I thought we were supposed to be able to make our own vendors, but that got cut for launch. Maybe later?
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:I thought we were supposed to be able to make our own vendors, but that got cut for launch. Maybe later? You are the vendor
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:I thought we were supposed to be able to make our own vendors, but that got cut for launch. Maybe later? That reminds me. I was pissed that you couldn't store Nuka Cola in the vending machines you can build in your camp.
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corn in the bible posted:A few years ago there was a f2p game that had to deal with its whales going on strike to effect changes in the game they wanted. They didn't like some feature implementation and since there weren't actually that many of them, they were able to basically hold the entire game hostage. yeah its really bizarre how f2p games become twisted for high players, we had a guy who spent $200k in a few months with a direct line to the CEO,CFO, accountants, etc...
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Siljmonster posted:yeah its really bizarre how f2p games become twisted for high players, we had a guy who spent $200k in a few months with a direct line to the CEO,CFO, accountants, etc... I want to do a demographic study on whales, jesus loving christ. 
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Warmachine posted:I want to do a demographic study on whales, jesus loving christ. im a plethora of information thats im already writing down
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Dec 13, 2018 04:05
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Didn't people like Elder Scrolls Online? They should have just let the people who made that do an online Fallout game if they really had to have one tbh.
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Mantis42 posted:Didn't people like Elder Scrolls Online? They should have just let the people who made that do an online Fallout game if they really had to have one tbh. gently caress, if only they had.
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Siljmonster posted:yeah its really bizarre how f2p games become twisted for high players, we had a guy who spent $200k in a few months with a direct line to the CEO,CFO, accountants, etc... What can you even spend $200k on in a F2P game?
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Siljmonster posted:im a plethora of information thats im already writing down 
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Nichael posted:What can you even spend $200k on in a F2P game? Anime Girls edit: If I could spend 200k on poo poo and get direct lines to CEOs and CFOs and whoever, I'd be on the horn 24/7 shouting 'GAYER! MAKE IT GAYER!' Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Dec 13, 2018 |
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ETPC posted:getting the power armor with minigun in the first hour of fo4 pissed me off so much. i like the way power armor worked but don't loving give me power armor this early in the game you dipshits Ever since we've had achievements/trophies, developers have been able to track the fact that most players never finish any given game. For Fallout 4, only 25% of players on Steam have the achievement for finishing the main quest. Add to that Youtube and Twitch streamers showing the game off on day one, and having to have a cool 30 minute demo for reviewers to play, and you end up with this kind of thing where a lot of the coolest looking stuff gets frontloaded in the early game. I've noticed in a lot of newer games that the classic RPG power curve is just gone. Not only that, but it also is very likely that less resources go to the end game as well, since relatively few players will even see it, so the ending of the game comes out unsatisfying. I hated the fact that the minigun, which was one of my favorite weapons in the classic games, is such a crappy peashooter in FO4 and the regular combat rifle is so much better in every way, and I strongly suspect that they felt they had to nerf it so hard because they give you one right at the beginning of the game, which is classic Bethesda reasoning.
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Rinkles posted:what is confusing? you lose the effect of your regular armor (which can include pocketed mods) when in PA, making it quite possible to have less carry capacity when you enter a PA if your regular armor had a bunch of pocketed mods. To expand upon this a bit (Because I have played WAY too much Fallout 4) : With 'deep pocketed' on all 5 armor pieces you gain 60lb of carry weight (20 chest, 10 each for arms and legs). If you aren't playing survival, then your base CW is 200 and every point of strength above that gives you 10 additional CW. So your base CW, because you can never have 0 strength, is 210. Maximum CW if you have 10 STR and full deep pocketed armor is 370. If you wear a piece of +STR underclothing such as the army fatigues, that becomes 380. If you use the Strength bobblehead and You're Special! book you can also get your STR up to 12, putting you at 400 CW. To get higher than that you need to start getting legendary armor with the 'Fortified' effect which grants +1 STR. If you get all 5 pieces of armor with it, that's a maximum of 450 CW. The downside here is that the legendary system being entirely random means the chances you'll get exactly the legendary you want on the piece you want are VERY LOW unless you use console commands or mods that let you customize legendaries. So getting beyond that 400CW cap is going to be difficult. You can buy a couple Fortified legendaries from vendors, but you end up with an ugly mismash of different armor pieces that way. The power armor frame assigns you a static strength of 11, so your CW is 310 with just the frame. However each of your legs can be modded with the 'calibrated' mod which adds 50CW each, putting you at 410. You can get even higher if you use the 'motion assisted' chest mod (+1 STR) and use a paint that boosts power armor strength, such as the Brotherhood of Steel paint, adds another +1. At this point you're at 430CW, twenty below your theoretical maximum with normal armor. The plus side is that all those mods, even the paint, are unlocked from the beginning of the game (so long as you have the perks) and require zero luck - you just apply them and boom, you're at 430. And everything looks very nice and matching and not mismatched at all. The other plus side is that Deep Pocketed armor still has weight, while power armor doesn't. So if you're wearing 30lbs of armor with the 'deep pocketed' mod installed, half your bonus is gone while you can get into the power armor butt naked (No weight from any clothing or armor at all) and still get the same boost as if you were fully geared out. You can also boost CW with chems, food, and perks but those will boost your CW whether you're in Power Armor or not, so they are immaterial for the purposes of this discussion. Now you know!
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Just built a few containers and yeah they all just connect back to the stash so I guess I’m gonna have to stay keep manually handing over meds and cures to my mates. Was hoping to be lazy and just send them to my house to rummage through the trash.
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Heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCb-3GOKjmM
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Bilal posted:Ever since we've had achievements/trophies, developers have been able to track the fact that most players never finish any given game. For Fallout 4, only 25% of players on Steam have the achievement for finishing the main quest. Add to that Youtube and Twitch streamers showing the game off on day one, and having to have a cool 30 minute demo for reviewers to play, and you end up with this kind of thing where a lot of the coolest looking stuff gets frontloaded in the early game. I've noticed in a lot of newer games that the classic RPG power curve is just gone. Not only that, but it also is very likely that less resources go to the end game as well, since relatively few players will even see it, so the ending of the game comes out unsatisfying. It always seemed odd that they didn't just make the minigun break after the fight. That would have even given players a sense of "woah that gun was badass I can't wait until I really get one of my own."
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It's because they don't understand setpieces in their shooterpg
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Prophecy120 posted:Bug of the Day™ - When opening a trade with another player, they can purchase your currently equipped weapon for 0 caps, even if you don't have it listed for sale. Hell yes
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Asphyxious posted:Just built a few containers and yeah they all just connect back to the stash so I guess I’m gonna have to stay keep manually handing over meds and cures to my mates. Was hoping to be lazy and just send them to my house to rummage through the trash. IDK if they didn't think this through or ran out of time or whatever, cause they hyped up the social economy in interviews and such.
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Siljmonster posted:yeah its really bizarre how f2p games become twisted for high players, we had a guy who spent $200k in a few months with a direct line to the CEO,CFO, accountants, etc... Why does this remind me of how a casino operates?
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Asphyxious posted:Does any footlocker/box/cooler just connect to your stash? I built a medical clinic and I want to have meds that just anyone can take but I worry that’s straight up impossible. That is, in fact, straight up impossible. Prior to the last patch we found out why, when people were duplicating items by using the one non-stash container, the artillery installation.
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Making the power armor into a vehicle was, no kidding, the single best and most innovative thing Bethesda has done over 3 Fallout games (I know they didn't make FNV, hush). Everything else is endless, mindless recycling of the Fallout bingo – vault boy, pip boy, power armor, "war never changes", oldie song intro and the 50s aesthetic straight up lifted from the previous games. That said, my PA rant: they don't understand how to make it feel good beyond that. They add a lovely refueling mechanic to something that is literally powered by a tiny fusion core that according to the description in the earlier games can last virtually forever, as far as one person's lifetime expectations are concerned. They make it so ubiquitous and easy to get that it completely erases everything unique about it. It was so stupid running around and finding empty power armor frames just standing there in the wild. It also was too fragile and too slow. It's literally a powered exoskeleton, it's supposed to enhance your strength and speed! Yeah, I'm saying it wasn't powerful enough because that's what it should be. It should be hard as hell to obtain and maybe get working, but after that it should be no fuss "most stuff can't even touch me" mode because that's fun for the endgame!
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Asphyxious posted:Just built a few containers and yeah they all just connect back to the stash so I guess I’m gonna have to stay keep manually handing over meds and cures to my mates. Was hoping to be lazy and just send them to my house to rummage through the trash. Also be careful about trading with randos because there's a bug that will let them snag your primary weapon from the trade window. Because Bethesda.
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I wish power armor was strong enough to be creditable as a weapon. Airplanes at the time had machine guns on every surface imaginable, there were giant tanks and battleship cannons firing projectiles the size of a person, and we're supposed to believe a man in an iron suit shambling around with no integrated weaponry is something the army would feild. As it is, its just the most boring mech in gaming.
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Mantis42 posted:Didn't people like Elder Scrolls Online? They should have just let the people who made that do an online Fallout game if they really had to have one tbh. It probably sold no where near what bethesda was expecting so Todd decided they just needed to "start fresh" instead of at least copy pasting an mediocre online game they already have.
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Gobblecoque posted:It always seemed odd that they didn't just make the minigun break after the fight. That would have even given players a sense of "woah that gun was badass I can't wait until I really get one of my own." How would that have worked when you ignore Preston and just grab the PA and Minigun and leave?
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Crabtree posted:It probably sold no where near what bethesda was expecting so Todd decided they just needed to "start fresh" instead of at least copy pasting an mediocre online game they already have. So instead they copy pasted a single player game they already have.
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Entropic posted:So instead they copy pasted a single player game they already have. Barely accomplished even that with all the ways Fallout 76 seems to break more than 4 ever did. But it would probably be less easier to identity continuing problems from the source material if they used ESO because there's likely a much smaller user base between it and 4.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I wish power armor was strong enough to be creditable as a weapon. Airplanes at the time had machine guns on every surface imaginable, there were giant tanks and battleship cannons firing projectiles the size of a person, and we're supposed to believe a man in an iron suit shambling around with no integrated weaponry is something the army would feild. As it is, its just the most boring mech in gaming. Fallout universe didn't invent the microchip, did they have smart bombs before the war? I always kinda assumed the resource wars were basically fought with "futuristic" ww2 tech
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What is the platinum “chip” if they never got pst vacuum tubes?
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Entropic posted:What is the platinum “chip” if they never got pst vacuum tubes? small tubes
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Power armor that can pick up a variety of guns with their flexible hands is way better than power armor with a huge cannon on its shoulder that can fire huge shells 5 times and then run out of ammo
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Mantis42 posted:Didn't people like Elder Scrolls Online? They should have just let the people who made that do an online Fallout game if they really had to have one tbh. those people are still making and selling content/expansions for teso, maybe they didn't want to
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TES VI is going to be a battle royale game with loot boxes made entirely with Skyrim assets and will still have bugs from Morrowind. For 600 Septim^TM you can buy an emote that makes your character dab, but if 2 players do it at once it makes dragons fly backwards.
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Zzulu posted:Power armor that can pick up a variety of guns with their flexible hands is way better than power armor with a huge cannon on its shoulder that can fire huge shells 5 times and then run out of ammo Instead of this false dilemma consider this: you could have both regular weapons and heavy armaments on fixed mount points with limited ammo like you said. Mind blown.
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