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Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Tezcatlipoca posted:

What one of you wrestling dudes should have posted was the fight from They Live!

You can either post the video, or start eating that trash can!

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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Ardent Communist posted:

You can either post the video, or start eating that trash can!

[zizek]I am already eating from the trash can all the time[/zizek]

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Solomon Kane is an extremely okay action movie

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Solomon Kane is an extremely okay action movie

It certainly is a feature film 104 minutes in length shot in colour.

On paper, it should be really good, but somehow it's aggressively forgettable, except the first fight scene in the forest, which is pretty good.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Basebf555 posted:

I don't like the fact that they keep making McClane's life shittier with each successive film starting with Die Hard With a Vengeance. I guess you could argue his life marginally improved from With a Vengeance to Live Free or Die Hard, where he at least seems to have stopped drinking. Then they way they wrote A Good Day to Die Hard they kinda forced themselves into a position where McClane had to be a lovely estranged father who hasn't seen his family for years.

I mean, sure it's an aspect of the original that John is a stubborn rear end in a top hat in some ways, and that's what makes him the terrorists worst nightmare blah blah blah, but does that mean he can never be happy?

I find that since the third one he becomes more and more invulnerable, just adding to more and more McClaine apathy. The fourth one is just loving awful for unforgivingly being PG-13 right out the box office. At least the fifth one went back to being rated R. Whenever John wasn't talking and action was happening the movie was really really good. Notwithstanding the scene where they are literally falling down a garbage chute while being peppered with machine gun fire from a loving attack chopper. AND WALK THE gently caress AWAY FROM IT. By the fifth movie organic John McClaine had been replaced by a cybernetic organism T-800 model funded apparently by the NYPD.

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Solomon Kane is an extremely okay action movie

Yea its uhhh...better than Kull.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

James Woods Fan posted:

Yea its uhhh...better than Kull.

I kinda liked Kull back in the day when I watched Hercules every day after school. I should watch it again sometime.

Jiro posted:

I find that since the third one he becomes more and more invulnerable, just adding to more and more McClaine apathy. The fourth one is just loving awful for unforgivingly being PG-13 right out the box office. At least the fifth one went back to being rated R. Whenever John wasn't talking and action was happening the movie was really really good. Notwithstanding the scene where they are literally falling down a garbage chute while being peppered with machine gun fire from a loving attack chopper. AND WALK THE gently caress AWAY FROM IT. By the fifth movie organic John McClaine had been replaced by a cybernetic organism T-800 model funded apparently by the NYPD.

I still enjoy Live Free or Die Hard a hell of a lot more than A Good Day to Die Hard for a few reasons(that others may understandably disagree with).

1. Better villain. Maybe Olyphant's motivations are a little muddy but it's still Timothy Olyphant and he's great.

2. Justin Long. Ok, fine, boo me all you want but Justin Long is a decent sidekick. At the very least he's better than Jai loving Courtney.

3. The action is flashier and more over the top, but the movie owns it. You have flippy parkour dude and McClane surfing a jet fighter, all that poo poo. A Good Day to Die Hard tries to have some sort of balance between grounded and over the top and it just ends up in the Boring Zone.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 13, 2018

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Snowman_McK posted:

It certainly is a feature film 104 minutes in length shot in colour.

On paper, it should be really good, but somehow it's aggressively forgettable, except the first fight scene in the forest, which is pretty good.

I was ready to love it after the opening scene where he’s raiding a castle by the sea and has to fight The Devil’s Reaper, but the rest of the movie is just whatever.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Solomon Kane is an extremely okay action movie
It's one of the first movies I think of when another movie makes me say "Wow, they sure squeezed as many explosions as possible into this pre-19th century setting."

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Trashola.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I was ready to love it after the opening scene where he’s raiding a castle by the sea and has to fight The Devil’s Reaper, but the rest of the movie is just whatever.

Same. I really like Howard's writing and James Purefoy is awesome, but, somehow the movie just never clicks. I think it's the pacing and structure, which is all over the shop.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Basebf555 posted:

I kinda liked Kull back in the day when I watched Hercules every day after school. I should watch it again sometime.


I still enjoy Live Free or Die Hard a hell of a lot more than A Good Day to Die Hard for a few reasons(that others may understandably disagree with).

1. Better villain. Maybe Olyphant's motivations are a little muddy but it's still Timothy Olyphant and he's great.

2. Justin Long. Ok, fine, boo me all you want but Justin Long is a decent sidekick. At the very least he's better than Jai loving Courtney.

3. The action is flashier and more over the top, but the movie owns it. You have flippy parkour dude and McClane surfing a jet fighter, all that poo poo. A Good Day to Die Hard tries to have some sort of balance between grounded and over the top and it just ends up in the Boring Zone.

I'm with you on all these points. I still generally enjoy Live Free, but A Good Day to Die Hard is irredeemable trash from beginning to end. I mean, John Moore directing a script from the writer of noted classics Swordfish and Hitman, who in the gently caress thought that was a good idea?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Can confirm with the digital release that Peppermint is an 80s-rear end 80s action movie, warts and all. In exchange for forsaking the gospel of Cynthia Rothrock, you got Jennifer Garner of Alias fame carrying this potential shitshow on her back.

And it's honestly pretty entertaining! She goes all loving tacticlol out on some competent drug cartel shitlords (while getting loving brutalized in the process) You get your MP5k porn, your Glock porn, your tacticlol M4 holosight porn. The movie doesn't shy away from this. It's not like the main character, this pretty white lady suburban mom, just loving stampedes over any and all resistance and walks out the hero - if anything the movie is constantly ridiculing her for it, as she staples her own wounds back together in the back of a goddamn Punisher van in Skid Row.

Also the bad guy mustaches are loving ridiculous and are very obviously a signal of absurdity worth paying attention to. But at the end of the day, Jennifer Garner loving sells it like it's life or death and she deserves some goddamn credit. We will never get a Lady Punisher movie, much less a sequel to the Lexi Alexander instant classic Punisher: War Zone, so Peppermint is what we have to settle for. And honestly, I had a hell of a lot of fun with it.

Riley North is cool as hell. I hope we get another schlocky action flick with her.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Finally saw M:I - Fallout last night. Pretty decent, though not the best of the series (that's still Ghost Protocol). I was surprised how many shots from the trailer didn't make it into the final cut, including the one they used as the climax (Hunt's chopper about to crash into a truck).

Maybe it's because I'm a fan of the original show, which was played absolutely straight, but the way all the team constantly had little comedy bits undercut the tension way too often for me. It worked best when they underplayed the humour (like the colossal blood splat in the bathroom), but Hunt LaBoeufing through the helicopter chase got annoying very quickly. The bathroom fight was the high point, probably because there was no dialogue...

I'll have to look for some behind-the-scenes stuff on YouTube to see how things were done; there was a weird difference between the first half of the Paris chase (on the bike) and the second (in the car), where the Cruise-on-a-bike stuff looked fake as hell and the car scenes seemed like he was having a great time trying to reenact Ronin for real.

Edit: huh, he actually did do a lot of the bike stuff for real, which shouldn't have surprised me. Maybe it was the massive amount of colour grading they did to make it look sunny (the shoot was overcast) that gave it that fake feel.

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 15, 2018

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Payndz posted:

Edit: huh, he actually did do a lot of the bike stuff for real, which shouldn't have surprised me. Maybe it was the massive amount of colour grading they did to make it look sunny (the shoot was overcast) that gave it that fake feel.

The bike stuff to me looked super fake too, the cars he rode past etc just all looked CGI so I didn't care.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
He's still riding the poo poo out of a motorbike without a helmet who cares if it's gussied up a bit with cg cars or not

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Rewatching the bike chase, I realised the thing that most made it look fake was the ridiculously bright CGI headlight flare. If you're going to amp up your action with computer-generated stuff, why draw attention to it?

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Dec 18, 2018

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Wandle Cax posted:

He's still riding the poo poo out of a motorbike without a helmet who cares if it's gussied up a bit with cg cars or not

It's not that I care per se, it's that it looked noticeably poo poo compared to everything else in the movie.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Payndz posted:

Finally saw M:I - Fallout last night. Pretty decent, though not the best of the series (that's still Ghost Protocol). I was surprised how many shots from the trailer didn't make it into the final cut, including the one they used as the climax (Hunt's chopper about to crash into a truck).

Maybe it's because I'm a fan of the original show, which was played absolutely straight, but the way all the team constantly had little comedy bits undercut the tension way too often for me. It worked best when they underplayed the humour (like the colossal blood splat in the bathroom), but Hunt LaBoeufing through the helicopter chase got annoying very quickly. The bathroom fight was the high point, probably because there was no dialogue...

I'll have to look for some behind-the-scenes stuff on YouTube to see how things were done; there was a weird difference between the first half of the Paris chase (on the bike) and the second (in the car), where the Cruise-on-a-bike stuff looked fake as hell and the car scenes seemed like he was having a great time trying to reenact Ronin for real.

Edit: huh, he actually did do a lot of the bike stuff for real, which shouldn't have surprised me. Maybe it was the massive amount of colour grading they did to make it look sunny (the shoot was overcast) that gave it that fake feel.

Every film has comedy undercut tension or sad bits now, its tragic to me that we arent allowed to feel emotions any more.

The helicopter chase was fantastic for me though, armie hammer really sells how pissed off he is

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

got any sevens posted:

The helicopter chase was fantastic for me though, armie hammer really sells how pissed off he is

That reminds me, I need a Man From U.N.C.L.E sequel please. Make it happen people.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Somebody earlier in the thread brought up Tom Berenger and I watched Sniper last night. It’s a perfectly serviceable movie, more on the thriller side than straight action. It touches on some interesting ideas, like Berenger’s character having nothing in his life except the killing, but it doesn’t do a whole lot with them. Too much time spent on making Billy Zane’s character look like a beta cuck soy boy. Good at creating suspense though and the scenes toward the end with Berenger in the gillysuit were cool. Worth a watch if you’re bored.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Somebody earlier in the thread brought up Tom Berenger and I watched Sniper last night. It’s a perfectly serviceable movie, more on the thriller side than straight action. It touches on some interesting ideas, like Berenger’s character having nothing in his life except the killing, but it doesn’t do a whole lot with them. Too much time spent on making Billy Zane’s character look like a beta cuck soy boy. Good at creating suspense though and the scenes toward the end with Berenger in the gillysuit were cool. Worth a watch if you’re bored.

I remember being surprised that it never just turned into a big Rambo style gunfight. It really stuck to its central conceit that Sniping is the best way to do things.

There's a couple of straight to DVD sequels, which include a scene where Berenger kills a fellow sniper with a pistol, and another where Billy Zane picks up a banana while talking, holds it for several seconds, and then puts it down. They are not good.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Can confirm that if you like westerns and 24, the Kiefer/Donald Sutherland flick Forsaken is fuckin’ rad as hell, albeit slow to start. Kiefer’s character is endearing and fun as hell, and the ending is absolutely worth it. I came away very happy I sat down to watch this movie after Unforgiven.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/918erg/any_news_about_triple_threat/ec1icdt/

Someone claiming to be the director of Triple Threat posted on Reddit the other day that the movie is being held up by Chinese censorship.

Which is the first time I've seen any explanation of why the movie hasn't been released despite being done for more than six months

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

got any sevens posted:

Every film has comedy undercut tension or sad bits now, its tragic to me that we arent allowed to feel emotions any more.
How are you supposed to relate to characters who don't quip snarkily even while under artillery fire?

habituallyred
Feb 6, 2015
10 Minutes under artillery fire is a thrilling struggle for cover.
5 Hours under artillery fire is a hell of cowering in a hole and waiting to die.
1 Week under artillery fire is when the funny quips start, because what else can you do?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

MrBling posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/918erg/any_news_about_triple_threat/ec1icdt/

Someone claiming to be the director of Triple Threat posted on Reddit the other day that the movie is being held up by Chinese censorship.

Which is the first time I've seen any explanation of why the movie hasn't been released despite being done for more than six months

Why wouldn't they just release it everywhere else as-is?

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Why wouldn't they just release it everywhere else as-is?


the post in question by the director posted:

Also, as a Chinese production this film has to be released in China before it can be shown anywhere else in the world.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Scott Adkins posted:

The highly anticipated martial arts actioner Triple Threat starring Iko Uwais, Tony Jaa, Tiger Chen, Michael Jai White, Michael Bisping and Scott Adkins finally has an official release date. The film debuts in China on February 28, 2019, Triple Threat is set to hit U.S. theaters on March 22, 2019.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Oh my God, I just knew Uwais, Jaa and Chen were in it. That is a hell of a loving cast. :stare:

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Bisping can gently caress off, but other than that it's a great cast

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

I’m 10 minutes into The 6th Day, and it apparently takes place in a world where XFL teams murder and replace their injured players with illegal clones. This poo poo rules.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I’m 10 minutes into The 6th Day, and it apparently takes place in a world where XFL teams murder and replace their injured players with illegal clones. This poo poo rules.

I remember enjoying that one a lot more than I thought I would too. It's dumb, but it knows what it is and it's a lot of fun. A lot of Arnold's movies are like that of course.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Basebf555 posted:

I remember enjoying that one a lot more than I thought I would too. It's dumb, but it knows what it is and it's a lot of fun. A lot of Arnold's movies are like that of course.

He did so much weird poo poo back then. I have a strange soft spot for Eraser.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
The 6th Day is fine and a fun stupid movie that only flopped because it came out in 2000 which was the peak time of "genre = bad, but the 'thinking man's' example of the genre = good" across pop culture combined with general Arnold fatigue.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Really for Arnold's whole career there's never been a time when he was like "ok, I'll relax and just do some formulaic action movies for a while". It seems like he was always doing something offbeat or in some unexpected genre.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

Really for Arnold's whole career there's never been a time when he was like "ok, I'll relax and just do some formulaic action movies for a while". It seems like he was always doing something offbeat or in some unexpected genre.

Maybe recently. A couple of his late career ones are pretty straightforward, and maybe Raw Deal, right at the beginning.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Neo Rasa posted:

The 6th Day is fine and a fun stupid movie that only flopped because it came out in 2000 which was the peak time of "genre = bad, but the 'thinking man's' example of the genre = good" across pop culture combined with general Arnold fatigue.

Remember that bit at the start of Welcome to the Jungle where the Rock goes into a club and briefly meets Arnold coming out, who I think wishes him luck? It's a very strange, "You're the world's number-one action star now, Dwayne," moment.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Basebf555 posted:

Really for Arnold's whole career there's never been a time when he was like "ok, I'll relax and just do some formulaic action movies for a while". It seems like he was always doing something offbeat or in some unexpected genre.
Can't that be attributed to the industry in the 80's and 90's in a whole? Outside of lesser stars like Seagal, it feels like the bigger starts got the offbeat projects because for some reason that was more bankable back then, or easier to garner investment.

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Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



I think this may belong here - I always thought the auction scene in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom was the most fun bit, but it was lacking... something.

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