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Whitlam posted:Genuine question for the thread: is Australia still the loving worst, or has America overtaken us now? I feel like we may beat them in terms of duration that we've been doing our poo poo, but is that enough to seal the deal? Nauru is terrible and nobody ITT is defending it, but I feel like that sting operation and other things they've done at least match us, if not overtake. I don't know, they haven't tortured some women into self immolation yet
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Cool guy bursting into rooms telling everybody the breaking news about this bad dude named obama lol if you don’t think he’s still enormously popular
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obamer? never met her!
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TheMightyHandful posted:Per capita, we are the worst carbon emitters, we may as well be the worst at human rights too There was a news article a couple of days ago about Australia claiming credit for beating the Kyoto agreement as counting towards our commitment for this Paris agreement. Also the reason we beat the Kyoto target was because land clearance didn't count? It's was difficult to understand https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/12/australia-likely-to-use-controversial-kyoto-loophole-to-meet-paris-agreement
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Jonah Galtberg posted:lol if you don’t think he’s still enormously popular Oh poo poo good comeback guy real relevant
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Lol if you don't think *some irrelevant poo poo*
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Careful, that'll get you a probe on PYF.
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Apparently we recognized Israel as Jerusalems capital
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Lol channel 7 tracked down George Pell
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Apparently we recognized Israel as Jerusalems capital A nice compromise position then?
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lol Morrison makes Bali a danger zone for Aussie tourists that’ll go down well with the battlers
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Got a call from polling being done by fairfax, guess borders, negative gearing and capital gains are the big issues.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Lol if you don't think *some irrelevant poo poo* obama himself is irrelevant but the mode of politics he represents/represented is not
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Lizard Combatant posted:Got a call from polling being done by fairfax, guess borders, negative gearing and capital gains are the big issues. What about maritime blasphemy though
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Solemn Sloth posted:What about maritime blasphemy though
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Solemn Sloth posted:What about maritime blasphemy though He hung up mid rant
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bandaid.friend posted:There was a news article a couple of days ago about Australia claiming credit for beating the Kyoto agreement as counting towards our commitment for this Paris agreement. Also the reason we beat the Kyoto target was because land clearance didn't count? It's was difficult to understand Pretty sure it’s using land that we couldn’t have cleared but didn’t as an offset, but really haven’t read enough and the article doesn’t explain it at all
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TheMightyHandful posted:Pretty sure it’s using land that we couldn’t have cleared but didn’t as an offset, but really haven’t read enough and the article doesn’t explain it at all We didn't go out of our way to destroy the environment for no benefit (this one time), praise us!
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Lizard Combatant posted:Got a call from polling being done by fairfax, guess borders, negative gearing and capital gains are the big issues. Fairfax doesn’t exist. I assume you mean “Nine”?
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Solemn Sloth posted:I like that it's basically an accepted fact that Melbourne will flood to knee deep water on major roads a few times a year now. Makes for good twitter content glub glub glub
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ShoeFly posted:Fairfax doesn’t exist. That's what they said 
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Whitlam posted:Genuine question for the thread: is Australia still the loving worst, or has America overtaken us now? I feel like we may beat them in terms of duration that we've been doing our poo poo, but is that enough to seal the deal? Nauru is terrible and nobody ITT is defending it, but I feel like that sting operation and other things they've done at least match us, if not overtake. Australia was never the loving worst. Our offshore torture program is terrible but it doesn’t hold a candle to Guantanamo or Abu Gharib or all the CIA blacksites we don’t even know about. You can’t beat empire at its own game.
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lol the Vic Libs new president is an ex mp who got dumped at the election and is a massive social conservative, big opponent of the euthanasia laws that went through last term “However, forces associated with Mr Kroger had been moving against Mr Clark in the past fortnight. They had cited comments Mr Clark had made years ago in parliament in which he said homosexuality was something people needed to “deal with”, comparing it to spina bifida or haemophilia.” Also their new shadow cabinet got announced and 31 of their 37 MPs are named in it
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BBJoey posted:Australia was never the loving worst. Our offshore torture program is terrible but it doesn’t hold a candle to Guantanamo or Abu Gharib or all the CIA blacksites we don’t even know about. https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/sta...ingawful.com%2F Fair.
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There's obviously room in that cage for at least twice the number of children.
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bandaid.friend posted:There was a news article a couple of days ago about Australia claiming credit for beating the Kyoto agreement as counting towards our commitment for this Paris agreement. Also the reason we beat the Kyoto target was because land clearance didn't count? It's was difficult to understand Yeah we are all about carbon accounting scams and remaining the worlds number one supplier of coal. That's on top of being the highest carbon emitters per capita. Make bank and cook books.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Caption this its the super... of the future
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BBJoey posted:Australia was never the loving worst. Our offshore torture program is terrible but it doesn’t hold a candle to Guantanamo or Abu Gharib or all the CIA blacksites we don’t even know about. Without meaning to excuse my horrible homeland, your torture island was explicitly for refugees. We at least pretended everyone we were torturing was an 'enemy combatant' or a terrorist. I'd say it's a draw.
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Halman posted:Without meaning to excuse my horrible homeland, your torture island was explicitly for refugees. We at least pretended everyone we were torturing was an 'enemy combatant' or a terrorist. I'd say it's a draw. It's explicitly for refugees who we pretend are all terrorists until proven otherwise.
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Halman posted:Without meaning to excuse my horrible homeland, your torture island was explicitly for refugees. We at least pretended everyone we were torturing was an 'enemy combatant' or a terrorist. I'd say it's a draw. Equivocating between torture islands is not going to be fun but I'd say you're on the wrong side here. -Many people on Guantanmo are conclusively completely innocent, and at least some of them were concluded to be innocent before being taken there. Pretending they're enemy combatants is actually worse, in my mind, than admitting that you're locking up refugees because they're refugees. -At least three people in Guantanamo were literally tortured to death. -People on Manus and Nauru at least have the hypothetical option of returning to their home country. People in Guantanamo are entirely at the whim of US authorities. -People on Manus and Nauru are able to communicate with the outside world, as are the people who work with them (health agencies and the like). Good luck in Guantanamo. -There is an active movement - however marginalised - to get people from Manus and Nauru to Australia. To the best of my knowledge, Guantanamo has fallen to the wayside of American politics. None of this goes to Abu Gharib, the various war crimes the US is involved in every day, etc.
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Solemn Sloth posted:lol the Vic Libs new president is an ex mp who got dumped at the election and is a massive social conservative, big opponent of the euthanasia laws that went through last term Dandrews is gotta be loving this news.
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