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i am harry posted:Bechamel to be precise.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Maybe if we had a policy to route sick children to a hospital...but no that's crazy. That sounds dangerously close to socialism, and god knows we can't have that because Venezuela eats rats
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Dec 14, 2018 07:15
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GreyjoyBastard posted:only if the topic doesn't involve a meat Really? That can't be right, what else would sauces talk about.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:15
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Isn't this the same gently caress busted for committing treason? squirrelzipper posted:Search your heart. This fucker can eat a double decker poo poo sandwich, poop it out, and eat it again. SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 07:20
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SocketWrench posted:Isn't this the same gently caress busted for committing treason? Search your heart. (Yeah he’s the same shitbag)
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Dec 14, 2018 07:21
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I want to make sure I understand this inauguration financing thing. Is all of this right? Trump (or people operating on his behalf) spent about $100 million on his inauguration, which is something like five times larger than Obama's last inauguration, for an event that was not substantially larger and was less-attended than the lower-cost Obama inaugurations. Of the money Trump spent on the inauguration, he spent $25 million - more than the total Obama spent - on an event-planning company, Hargrove Inc., that doesn't publicly acknowledge having done any work for the inauguration. Of the money Trump spent on the inauguration, he spent $26 million - again, more than Obama's total - on a second event-planning company, run by a friend of Melania's, which mostly used the money to pay subcontractors. That's a total of $51 million spent on event planning for the Trump inauguration, out of ~$100 million spent in full. Of that $51 million, $25 million is publicly unaccounted for. At about the same time, Trump paid $25 million as a settlement in the Trump University case. Is that right?
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Dec 14, 2018 07:24
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Yeah, that's about right. I honestly prefer the "Hargrove got 5x their going rate because Trump is so toxic and they don't even publicly admit to doing the work" version of the story because hopefully some of that money trickled down to the workers because Donny gets the BEST DEALS. They are investigating something, we won't know exactly what for a bit longer, it's fun to speculate but the speculation is just that.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:34
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I mean yeah, Trump clearly committed fraud. That is what he, and his family, and his associates, have been doing constantly for decades. They were criminals and are still criminals committing crimes constantly. They should all be in jail and the only reason they aren't is because 30% of the country would and does believe anything if it fits what they want to hear.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:38
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Besesoth posted:I want to make sure I understand this inauguration financing thing. Is all of this right? That's right. It's pretty clear what happened, despite people ITT maintaining that a lack of evidence means that we can't extrapolate anything. The $26 million given to Melania's friend was probably legitimately used for the Yugest Inauguration Ever. The $25 million listed for Hargrove Inc was probably diverted for the Trump University settlement. The other $49 million? Your guess is as good as anyone else's. Grifters gotta grift.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:40
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Brave New World posted:That's right. Nah, there's no reason to assume that that's the specific grift that occurred. "Two numbers are the same" isn't enough to draw that conclusion Now, did he commit fraud? Heck yeah
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Dec 14, 2018 07:43
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Basically if you remember the Stormy Daniels payment of what was it, like some weird specific amount of 133 thousand? Which ended up not being money from some other payment for the same amount somewhere else even though everyone figured it had to be. 25mil is too round of a number, it's likely coincidence. It may not be, but it's speculation until we see some actual proof that it's even the payment that's being looked into. (I mean the question "Did Trump commit fraud" and "Is Trump breathing" have the same answer, generally, but there's no reason to get excited over this until we get more information.) mistaya fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 07:48
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I dunno... If I had to disappear $25 million dollars of public money I wouldn't just charge that exact amount to some random event planning company... I would have no idea what i was doing, but if you were going to do this sort of thing you would split that amount up into smaller less obvious amounts right? charge 1.2 mill here, slightly less there.. maybe mix it in with other legitimate payments to companies which did perform work for you? Like I totally believe that they would try and do this, it seems inconceivable that whatever accountant he hired would do it that poorly.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:48
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It's hilarious that there are still people not able to come to terms with just how stupid and corrupt that Trump & Co actually are. They didn't think that they would get caught, for anything.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:51
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And to be further clear, this was not public money such as matching funds or whatever, right? This was all GOP donor money? Cuz that's a hell of a victimless crime there.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:52
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Tayter Swift posted:And to be further clear, this was not public money such as matching funds or whatever, right? This was all GOP donor money? Cuz that's a hell of a victimless crime there. Well, one issue is that a lot of this money is going to end up coming from foreign nationals. It was donated money, and this sort of donation for the big party has always been a wink to the candidate from people wanting stuff. Trump just took that part to the next level and involved other countries.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:55
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Brave New World posted:It's hilarious that there are still people not able to come to terms with just how stupid and corrupt that Trump & Co actually are. They didn't think that they would get caught, for anything. They've had a lifetime of not being penalized for anything in any way. Of course they're stupid.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:56
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Brave New World posted:It's hilarious that there are still people not able to come to terms with just how stupid and corrupt that Trump & Co actually are. They didn't think that they would get caught, for anything. If your tea leaves say "Trump did crimes" it doesn't mean tea leaves are suddenly valid
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Dec 14, 2018 07:57
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Starsfan posted:I dunno... If I had to disappear $25 million dollars of public money I wouldn't just charge that exact amount to some random event planning company... These dudes have been committing crimes their entire lives and have been getting away with it because this country is extremely permissive with "white collar" crime. Where would they have learned caution or restraint? It's like people who don't feel pain, the stove touching metaphor doesn't make any sense to them.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:58
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SocketWrench posted:Isn't this the same gently caress busted for committing treason? Ain't no one better to peddle guns than a man who sold guns illegally to a hostile foreign power and then covered it up by trading the money to cartels for coke. Hell the amount of crime he caused had an added benefit for the gun companies since it made the police more militarized and made scared white people buy up guns to protect themselves from the government and 'scary'(read: black) druggies. I am surprised the NRA didn't hire him earlier now that I think of it.
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Dec 14, 2018 08:02
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Stereotype posted:I mean yeah, Trump clearly committed fraud. That is what he, and his family, and his associates, have been doing constantly for decades. They were criminals and are still criminals committing crimes constantly. "But surely the man who has committed every other form of fraud in his life wouldn't stoop so low as to commit election fraud!" - Nearly 40% of the voting population
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Dec 14, 2018 08:42
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Besesoth posted:Is that right? No, people are misreading numbers and getting the 5-1 thing from the amount spent on that particular contractor. Obama’s first inauguration cost less than Trump’s did, but not to an eyebrow raising degree when you adjust for inflation (roughly 190 mil to roughly 210 mil, per some googling). e: note that the event is paid for by a mix of public and private funding. e2: Obama’s second inauguration wasn’t much different. Bush’s 05 one was more expensive than either of Obama’s. There’s nothing unusual about Trump’s total inauguration committee budget. If you want to look for the grift, well, Obama in ‘09 was rather a bit more impressive show and crowd... eviltastic fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 08:52
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/11/biden-2020-running-mate-romney-222861
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With only a few weeks left for Worst Take of 2018, that's gonna be tough to beat
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Dec 14, 2018 09:03
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Katt posted:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/11/biden-2020-running-mate-romney-222861 It's been discussed a good bit already. It's not good
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Dec 14, 2018 09:03
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's been discussed a good bit already. It's not good No seriously I think this Republican lobbyist who worked for Giuliani and with ties to Manafort only has good faith reasons for encouraging Biden to run as an independent.
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Dec 14, 2018 09:09
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10 years ago today lads, this needs to be marked by getting Trump to kiss some shoe leather https://twitter.com/haymarketbooks/status/1073442459261140992?s=19
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Dec 14, 2018 09:12
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Katt posted:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/11/biden-2020-running-mate-romney-222861 NeverTrumps are really dumb.
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Dec 14, 2018 09:16
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Failed Imagineer posted:10 years ago today lads, this needs to be marked by getting Trump to kiss some shoe leather No way in hell Trump would dodge that poo poo
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Dec 14, 2018 09:18
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Brave New World posted:That's right. I think you've got it backwards. Hargrove has been doing Presidential inaugural balls for generations. They probably did Trumps too, but half-assed it and completely ripped off President Deals. But, they don't really want to put their name on it. Melania's friend is the suspicious one, as it appears she did the exact same thing as Hargrove, and got paid basically the same. The difference between the two is likely the tax on the commission that Melania's friend received, which if you remember was built into Cohen's reimbursement for the Stormy Daniels payment. It's a giant red flag for money laundering.
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Dec 14, 2018 09:22
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The Glumslinger posted:No way in hell Trump would dodge that poo poo Trump would have taken two shoes between the eyes and then raised his hands up defensively all "nya! eh!"
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Dec 14, 2018 09:22
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This is not even a W rehab: his reflexes were very good to dodge that shoe
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Dec 14, 2018 10:14
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Katt posted:Trump would have taken two shoes between the eyes and then raised his hands up defensively all "nya! eh!" "I dodged those shoes beautifully. No one could have dodged those shoes better than I did. Asking me if I got hit by those shoes is a very racist question."
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Dec 14, 2018 10:20
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someone post the Donnie getting frighten by a bald eagle gif. tia
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Dec 14, 2018 10:21
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PhazonLink posted:someone post the Donnie getting frighten by a bald eagle gif. I got ya. 
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So is that new investigation on the Clintons the Repubs cooked up going to come to anything? They do seem to be finding some pretty shady looking poo poo but I don't know how actually illegal it was or if they're just actually grossly misrepresenting things to make a sham "trial" look like the real deal. The Q nuts and a bunch of the usual RWM seem to be going nuts over it and while I hope the Clintons get busted if they really did some super bad stuff I'd be just fine with some schadenfruede if it turns into a whole nothing burger that blows over with the new Congress.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:This is not even a W rehab: his reflexes were very good to dodge that shoe People said that at the time too, gotta grudgingly respect that ex-cheerleader game (Nobody post that dril tweet, I know he still deserves the Hague/guillotine)
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:So is that new investigation on the Clintons the Repubs cooked up going to come to anything? They do seem to be finding some pretty shady looking poo poo but I don't know how actually illegal it was or if they're just actually grossly misrepresenting things to make a sham "trial" look like the real deal. Republicans have spent decades and hundreds of millions of dollars investigating the Clintons, and the worst they have come up with is Bill lied about getting a blowjob.
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Dec 14, 2018 10:40
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Lycus posted:I got ya. Holy poo poo he looks...well I wouldn't say healthy but not about to keel over. His hair looks like it's actually made of something thicker than spider silk.
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Dec 14, 2018 10:43
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Alkydere posted:Holy poo poo he looks...well I wouldn't say healthy but not about to keel over. That was years ago at this point. Now he looks like absolute hammered poo poo, he looks post-stroke in his quieter moments
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The Glumslinger posted:No way in hell Trump would dodge that poo poo My question is what would be his reaction, rage, just sobs, walks away?
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