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Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
The stardust and candy costs are based on the buddy distance. For 1km buddies the extra move costs only 10k dust and 25 candies.

So, again Golem and Gyarados would be cheap, potentially good candidates for a second move.

Now if I could just find some analysis about the dps impact of the second move in case you already have the best charge move on your mon.

In the neutral case it could go either way: your dps goes down because half of your energy goes to the new lower dps charge move, or maybe niantic made you gain more energy to compensate for the second move? Maybe you just gain more energy by wasting less when tanking the opponent's moves?

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Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

So here's a tip, for some baby-mons its cheaper to buy the charge move when they're a baby then when they're evolved.

eg: Magby is only 10k dust and 25 candy for second move BUT Magmar is 75k and 75 candy, dunno what it costs for Magmortermer because I don't have one without 2 moves now.

Just checked Budew is 10k/25candy for new move and Roselia 50k/50candy (again dunno about Roserade) so I assume it's the same for all babies at least.

So yeah might pay to double check whether it's worth giving them the extra move BEFORE evolving it if you're able.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Wheany posted:

The stardust and candy costs are based on the buddy distance. For 1km buddies the extra move costs only 10k dust and 25 candies.

So, again Golem and Gyarados would be cheap, potentially good candidates for a second move.

Now if I could just find some analysis about the dps impact of the second move in case you already have the best charge move on your mon.

In the neutral case it could go either way: your dps goes down because half of your energy goes to the new lower dps charge move, or maybe niantic made you gain more energy to compensate for the second move? Maybe you just gain more energy by wasting less when tanking the opponent's moves?

There's no impact. EPS on your quick move is unchanged, both charge moves simply draw from the same pool.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Chairman Mao posted:

There's no impact. EPS on your quick move is unchanged, both charge moves simply draw from the same pool.

I honestly didn't even consider that option.

Captain Duvel
Dec 14, 2009
This probably doesn't work in pvp, but when you battle the trainers and knock out their Pokemon you can keep attacking and it will take damage before it's even out.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Captain Duvel posted:

This probably doesn't work in pvp, but when you battle the trainers and knock out their Pokemon you can keep attacking and it will take damage before it's even out.

Search in your heart and you'll know that Niantic lets you do this in PvP.

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


Wheany posted:

In the neutral case it could go either way: your dps goes down because half of your energy goes to the new lower dps charge move, or maybe niantic made you gain more energy to compensate for the second move? Maybe you just gain more energy by wasting less when tanking the opponent's moves?

Yeah, it's 1 pool of energy as said earlier. So take TTar with stone edge and crunch. When you tap the button, it fills up both energy bars the same amount as it did before. When you click on crunch, it removes 1/3rd of the stone edge bar, and when you click on stone edge, it drains out the entire crunch bar.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
Another day of getting zero PvP Sinnoh Stones. :sigh:

I wonder what the drop rate is?

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

FrensaGeran posted:

Wild Chimecho

Ultra Ball, Razz Berry, Curveball

Doesn’t even shake once, pops out, fucks off.

:suicide:

Why didn't you go golden?

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008

FistEnergy posted:

Another day of getting zero PvP Sinnoh Stones. :sigh:

I wonder what the drop rate is?

I've gotten two between my two accounts since PVP went live.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
So there are four possible chances (1 vs trainer, 3 PvP) per day to get a sinnoh stone. Between me, my alt, and my wife over two days (24 possible chances) we have gotten two sinnoh stones.

As a side note, my alts items were full and I thought it missed out (no reward given - just the item full notification). On the next battle it received 500 stardust and a sinnoh stone. So if you get the item full error I think the reward carries over to the next battle. To be safe though it’s probably best to make sure you have item space before battling.

edit: did the battles today and now it’s up to 4/36 - so maybe 1 in 10ish?

slave to my cravings fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Dec 14, 2018

Beastyfella
Mar 5, 2008

I have lost all powers of reading comprehension and counting ability hours ago
The chance seems to be 1/8, per Silph Road

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe
Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant Venusaur hits 1500 CP on the dot :cool:

Got me a best bud for scrub league matches.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Are you supposed to get a reward every time you PVP against the bots? I only ever get it for the first fight against one of them. If I fight the other 2, I get nothing.

Loser_Rex
Apr 14, 2006

Spidercock? Here?

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Are you supposed to get a reward every time you PVP against the bots? I only ever get it for the first fight against one of them. If I fight the other 2, I get nothing.

Only once a day regardless of which bot.

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Slightly Absurd posted:

Yo, I figured this could be a good chance to pimp our Discord Channel.

Are you already sick of destroying your Alt Account in PvP? With our Discord, you can find other Goon Trainers to challenge in PvP. Theoretically, we could also use this channel to arrange a tournament of sorts to determine who is the Best Trainer Goon Of All.

Are you also too lazy and/or broke to shell out some cash for spoofing? The Pokemon Go Discord Group can hook you up with those regional or rare Pokemon that are giving you trouble.

For example: I live in Southern Florida, so if you need a Heracross, Corsola, or Carnivine, I can help you out. By helping other Trainers out, I was able to round out my Kanto Dex, and also snag some rad Shineys I had my eye on.

So check out the Goon Pokemon Go Discord Server @: https://discord.gg/cxYHXw. To be honest, I've already got most of what I want from P:GO, but the regionals are so common around here, I don't mind paying it forward a bit.

JOIN US.

Sure, you might be able to dominate your local discord group, but are you man enough to challenge THE INTERNET to PvP battles? BRING IT ON
If you ask me nicely, I might spare you a Smeargle, Kecleon, or Clampearl.


Find Our Discord Here: https://discord.gg/cxYHXw

Edit: Do you have way too many gifts and not enough dudes to open them? Add me as a friend! I open gifts all the goddamn time, and I love the EXP for it. My Code is 6955 0921 7247. GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR GIFTS

your invite links are expired maybe?

Bobby Cox
Nov 3, 2006


College Slice

SuperKlaus posted:

Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant Venusaur hits 1500 CP on the dot :cool:

Got me a best bud for scrub league matches.

Just hatched a 100% Scyther that turned into a 1500 CP Scizor and now I'm stupid excited for some GREAT LEAGUE action.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Marzzle posted:

your invite links are expired maybe?

https://discord.gg/2Yhpr9H

This one is set to never expire.

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe

Bobby Cox posted:

Just hatched a 100% Scyther that turned into a 1500 CP Scizor and now I'm stupid excited for some GREAT LEAGUE action.

Your Bug beats my Grass! drat you!

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

How good would having a Gengar with Lick, Meteor Mash Metagross and Machamp be in the 1500 and under league?

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Soulex posted:

How good would having a Gengar with Lick, Meteor Mash Metagross and Machamp be in the 1500 and under league?

I used a 2491 gengar in the 2500 league, and it kicked rear end using shadow ball. I would assume metagross would be a great generalist too. Charizard with blast burn is also really good too.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Anything that has a multi bar charge move and a high eps quick move is great for spamming charge attacks since you can only block twice.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Fought my coworker 3 times today, lost 2/3, got a Sinner Stone when I lost the 3rd battle. I only won battle 2 because he let me, to see if I'd get a Sinnow Stone. I did not.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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More Sinnoh Pokémon are coming in the coming days, including Snover.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Kheldarn posted:

Fought my coworker 3 times today, lost 2/3, got a Sinner Stone when I lost the 3rd battle. I only won battle 2 because he let me, to see if I'd get a Sinnow Stone. I did not.

Sinner Stones are for unbelievers of Arceus.

Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

My 98 Alolan Golem is 1504 :negative:

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Edward Mass posted:

More Sinnoh Pokémon are coming in the coming days, including Snover.

Here's the announcement for that.

https://pokemongolive.com/en/post/holiday2018/

New pokemon featured in the graphic: Snover, Abomasnow, Chingling, Munchlax, Croagunk, and the lake guardians (so one of them is probably rotating in for Cresselia).

dihaploidy
Oct 31, 2010


Buglord
Sharkrodeo and DaStampede, we've just hit max friendship if either of you want to use a lucky egg before the XP hits when you next log on!

OgreNoah
Nov 18, 2003

Dragonstoned posted:

My 98 Alolan Golem is 1504 :negative:

I just evolved my Riolu, it is now 1510 :( I should have hatched a slightly worse one.

Also I caught my second shiny Shinx, or Shinxy, just a few minutes ago.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



My gf just got 3 stones in a row from the first 3 battles we had, two of which she lost. Seems unfair.

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

I'm on my third day of PvP, no Sinnoh Stones.

If I get none tomorrow, I'll assume this is an elaborate prank everyone is playing on me.

MadFriarAvelyn
Sep 25, 2007

I've done a full set of PvP matches each day and haven't won a single Sinnoh Stone, no matter if I won or lost.

My coworker I've been battling against has gotten about 2-3 per day since PvP launched.

:psyduck:

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
:same:

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Dr. Abysmal posted:

Here's the announcement for that.

https://pokemongolive.com/en/post/holiday2018/

New pokemon featured in the graphic: Snover, Abomasnow, Chingling, Munchlax, Croagunk, and the lake guardians (so one of them is probably rotating in for Cresselia).

quote:

such as a Pikachu wearing a festive hat

could you not, niantic

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Dragonstoned posted:

My 98 Alolan Golem is 1504 :negative:

I have a 98% Scizor that's 2503.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
Delibird themed outfits incoming :syoon:

Datasmurf
Jan 19, 2009

Carpe Noctem
The thing I think I like best about the pvp vs. trainers is that I can finally get the train 1000 times medal. I've been at 114 ever since the gym rework, now I'm at 120. w00t!

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
In like 2 or 3 weeks, all of you fools are gonna be discarding sinnoh stones to get inventory space back

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

BabyRyoga posted:

In like 2 or 3 weeks, all of you fools are gonna be discarding sinnoh stones to get inventory space back

I don't think you know how many Rhyhorn I have caught.

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Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!
ZottSA, I accidentally pushed us into best friend territory, please use a lucky egg when you log in if you care about xp

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