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Jamesman posted:Same, except replace "Steam" with "literally any other option if I can." I love that Steam's big "we'll give y'all a bigger cut of the revenue if you're a supermassive company pulling in multiple millions PLEASE PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US" came out like a week before three new online games shops popped up, and just served to prove what had been technically-classified information before- that Steam's cut of all game sales is loving 30%. Even loving Discord's getting one now, and all of them, loving all of them, give indies a bigger cut of the sales.
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Isn’t 30% a lot less than the physical retail cut.
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euphronius posted:Isn’t 30% a lot less than the physical retail cut. Retail makes poo poo profit off physical games.
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euphronius posted:Isnt 30% a lot less than the physical retail cut. Physical cut is anywhere from 5-10%. Digital sales make bank compared to brick and mortar.
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Somfin posted:I love that Steam's big "we'll give y'all a bigger cut of the revenue if you're a supermassive company pulling in multiple millions PLEASE PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US" came out like a week before three new online games shops popped up, and just served to prove what had been technically-classified information before- that Steam's cut of all game sales is loving 30%. Even loving Discord's getting one now, and all of them, loving all of them, give indies a bigger cut of the sales. God, that reminds me, is there a Discord client without the shop and other bloat? I used to love Discord because it was a lightweight way to shitpost with gently caress Discord, gently caress ads, gently caress game stores, I just wanna chat goddammit.
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Screaming Idiot posted:God, that reminds me, is there a Discord client without the shop and other bloat? I used to love Discord because it was a lightweight way to shitpost with I just tried to install Vortex, which is the FO4 mod installer, and it's become PayToPlay. I had to find the out of date version to install mods without paying 5 bucks a month.
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Welp, the internet was fun while it lasted. Remember when ypu could do cool poo poo without being murderfucked in the eyes by slowdown-inducing ads covering every inch of the screen and having your data stolen by billionaires?
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Microcline posted:AAA gaming is and will remain an incredibly lucrative space because total revenue has been increasing (due to a larger number of consumers and more exploitative monetization strategies) while costs have been flat or decreasing (engines are fairly mature and labor is treated like poo poo). It’s this. Shareholder expectations are causing developers to gut their core franchises because lol who cares if their internal metrics are unrealistic the only thing that matters is that shareholders and CEOs can golden parachute away when they’re done killing the golden goose.
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Jamesman posted:Right, which, again, makes it pretty fair to say AAA publishers can go gently caress themselves, and it has nothing to do with perceived gamer entitlement. Steam switched the launcher out for Civ 5 to one that plays a video ad for Civ 6. I am not amused.
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tactlessbastard posted:Steam switched the launcher out for Civ 5 to one that plays a video ad for Civ 6. I am not amused. That'd be Firaxis or 2K.
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the_steve posted:$60 hasn't been the "full" price for a game for years. This "math" is very stupid
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theflyingorc posted:This "math" is very stupid Yeah who the gently caress is paying $200 for any normal game? Are you a whale that can't stop buying loot boxes?
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Inzombiac posted:Yeah who the gently caress is paying $200 for any normal game? video game $40 loot boxes $1000 someone help me my family is dying
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hhhat posted:video game $40 sell your family and buy more lootboxes
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hhhat posted:video game $40 Spend less on loot boxes.
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Dale-Taco posted:Spend less on loot boxes. no
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Jabberlock posted:I get every game for $10 on Steam three years after it was released and I'm never disappointed. Have you considered pre-ordering every game + overpriced toys in a collector's pack and fuming into the internet with impotent rage when it doesn't meet your expectations? Because otherwise maybe you're not a real GAMER
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Inzombiac posted:Yeah who the gently caress is paying $200 for any normal game? 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:TOP TEXT CLOWNS TO THE LEFT OF ME JOKERS TO THE RIGHT BOTTOM TEXT
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tbf that's spread out over five years and like a third of those are purely cosmetic
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Games like that are complete games with just the original purchase. Some of those DLCs are what would in earlier days have been complete sequels. Some of them are cosmetic trash you can ignore if you don't care what your mans are wearing or what music plays. Plus, as mentioned, that's like 5 years of ongoing development. Usually each time a new major DLC comes out the base game and a bunch of earlier DLC goes on sale. I got Crusader King II and a bunch of DLC for $10 once. Plus anyone who enjoys those kinds of games IS getting hundreds or thousands of hours of play time, so they probably think they got their money's worth. A single play through probably takes more than 20 hours even if you play at max speed the whole time and there is a ton of replayability.
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Sagebrush posted:the thing that always gets me is the insane standard of "getting my money's worth" that gamers seem to hold. at full price a game is like 60 dollars. that's the equivalent of maybe three movies at the theater + popcorn, or once nice dinner out on the town. a few hours of entertainment either way. yet they act like if the game doesn't hold their attention for months on end, with a 40 hour single-player campaign and 1000 hours of multiplayer content with new poo poo to do all the time, they somehow got ripped off? And if you are a stingy bastard who needs to get great value for money, just ignore the hype and wait a few years to get the game at a quarter of the price during a sale. Fully patched and with plenty of online guides to help you. It doesn't work well for multiplayer games, but for single player games all you lose is the excitement of getting hyped up and then inevitably disappointed. Jabberlock posted:I get every game for $10 on Steam three years after it was released and I'm never disappointed. This guy gets it. 
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Jabberlock posted:I get every game for $10 on Steam three years after it was released and I'm never disappointed. 
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Jabberlock posted:I get every game for $10 on Steam three years after it was released and I'm never disappointed.  (Fell free to mentally convert this into goatckd if you prefer.)
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Being a peak consumer is so 80s and 90s so lol if you don't have a computer that is at least 5 years old.
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Powered Descent posted:
something went wrong, i'm not good with computers 
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Fister Roboto posted:tbf that's spread out over five years and like a third of those are purely cosmetic Gamers posting a list of thousands of add ons for a game that they just can't help themselves from compulsively buying as proof that they're being victimized. RISE UP
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MunchE posted:Gamers posting a list of thousands of add ons for a game that they just can't help themselves from compulsively buying as proof that they're being victimized. RISE UP the meme where hannibal burress gets shot but it's gamers shooting gamers' wallets and then asking "why would EA do this?"
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Samuringa posted:something went wrong, i'm not good with computers I see now that he cannot die, only transform.
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Caufman posted:I see now that he cannot die, only transform. Conservation of rear end?
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