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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

IOwnCalculus posted:

Cheapest out there is shucking a WD 8TB or 10TB external. Or just leave it in its case for easier warranty service if you don't mind having an external.

Next cheapest is getting a used drive from someone like GoHardDrive that offers their own warranty. I added some used HGST 8TB to my server this way because I didn't want to have to store a bunch of WD enclosures for warranty work. But my next round of upgrades will probably be shucked WDs because they're so much cheaper.

Outside of those, take your pick from new Toshiba, new HGST, or new WD. Only one I'd still avoid is Seagate, since the last time I tried them, literally every one was either DOA or died within the burn in process.

Wasn't sure how the used OEM ones would go, but the price is really attractive. Attractive enough that I can deal with less of a warranty.

I've always had really bad luck with Seagate; I refuse to touch them. Western Digital was usually pretty solid for me, but my last couple died fairly early (but did start throwing SMART errors well before dying, while every Seagate just up and died with no warning).

I've yet to have a HGST fail, though two of the three I have, do have bad sectors (1 on one drive, 2 on another; the count hasn't increased in 6+ years, so I don't consider it a bad thing). One started life as an external, and my cat knocked it over several times while running, I'm sure that's where the 2 came from.

My external is a WD Green inside its housing (WD MyBook). USB 3.0 at least, but I've just heard so many bad things about Greens that I'd prefer not to run them.

Fermented Tinal posted:

So far I'm liking it but I really think the fingerprint sensor should do double-duty as a secondary home button. I find myself tapping it to go back to the home screen even though I know it doesn't do that on any phone that has a back fingerprint sensor.

My Moto G5 Plus has the fingerprint sensor where Samsung would put their combo fingerprint/home button.

It locks it if I forget and try to use it as a home button. :argh:

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Dec 15, 2018

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Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
I'm the opposite, I wouldn't trust a WD as far as I could throw it, but I've got a 500gb Seagate 7200.11 that I never updated the firmware on that is still trucking. I've never had good luck with WDs, can think of dozens of failures, especially in server applications, but I've only ever had one Seagate die on me.

I've got a dead 1tb WD Black sitting on my desk right now.

E: I had the same experience with Maxtors, only one ever gave me trouble and that was due to me dropping it and after I replaced the board on it it was fine.

Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Dec 15, 2018

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





STR posted:


My external is a WD Green inside its housing (WD MyBook). USB 3.0 at least, but I've just heard so many bad things about Greens that I'd prefer not to run them.

The 8/10TB externals that get shucked for their drives have either reds, white-label reds, or occasionally even HGST drives in them.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

IOwnCalculus posted:

Cheapest out there is shucking a WD 8TB or 10TB external. Or just leave it in its case for easier warranty service if you don't mind having an external.

Next cheapest is getting a used drive from someone like GoHardDrive that offers their own warranty. I added some used HGST 8TB to my server this way because I didn't want to have to store a bunch of WD enclosures for warranty work. But my next round of upgrades will probably be shucked WDs because they're so much cheaper.

Outside of those, take your pick from new Toshiba, new HGST, or new WD. Only one I'd still avoid is Seagate, since the last time I tried them, literally every one was either DOA or died within the burn in process.

I have that 10TB in my wishlist,just waiting for a price break. I'm tired of having 5 drives that I have to swap around to find what I'm looking for.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
So who lives in Miami.... https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/d/collectable-rx7-r1/6762486318.html

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

IOwnCalculus posted:

The 8/10TB externals that get shucked for their drives have either reds, white-label reds, or occasionally even HGST drives in them.

Oh, well in that case...

fake edit: just looked on Amazon, $159 for the 8TB. Yeah, ordering that on payday to toss in as an internal drive, then another one after the holidays to use as an external backup. The $100 difference for a 10TB isn't worth the extra 2TB.

Rhyno posted:

I have that 10TB in my wishlist,just waiting for a price break. I'm tired of having 5 drives that I have to swap around to find what I'm looking for.

Get a SATA card maybe? I think my board has 8 SATA ports... maybe 10. But if yours doesn't, an add on SATA card is cheap.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Dec 15, 2018

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I just have this lovely old Lenovo laptop and my next machine is definitely gonna be a Chromebook.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Oh, gotcha. Does it have USB 3.0 at least? If it does, a powered USB 3.0 hub and a few USB 3.0 to SATA adapters may be a stopgap fix.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

STR posted:

Oh, gotcha. Does it have USB 3.0 at least? If it does, a powered USB 3.0 hub and a few USB 3.0 to SATA adapters may be a stopgap fix.

It does but some of these drives are getting pretty old. I have three old Seagates that I currently use to prop my second display up with. Lotta tech junk going in the trash when we move. I'm going with the single external for simplicity and to clean off my desk.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





The 8TB regularly drops to 130 and the 10tb has hit 160ish recently.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Who the hell are you?

Name + avatar change a the same time and you make me feel like I am my aunt Mabel who gets confused.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Be careful with the 10 TB ones, some of them use a technique called Shingled Magnetic Recording that basically magnetically overlaps tracks on the hard disk platters so your write speeds can sometimes be kinda low since it has to write overlapping tracks back onto themselves. If that's something that matters to you

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Had another fit of enthusiasm and have been busy again.

Started off by building some material racks for the trailer.



They mean I can fork load material onto the trailer or put long pieces on without having to use boards across the sides. They're using the same pockets I installed for the cage that goes on the trailer too. Gives me the ability to move something thats 5.0x1.8M and around 1000kg! or if its centre line loaded, I can JUST fit a 6M long piece of timber on it.

Which meant I could pick up some supplies and after nearly 4 years, finally build the last fence on our western boundary.







Man it changes the back yards look and feel. Its cut down a MASSIVE amount of wind blowing across the yard. Downside is its killed some of the breeze under the alfresco so i'll have to install a fan under there. Got one post to sink into the ground tomorrow morning with some rapid set concrete and then two more panels to install on the embankment above the tanks and then its all done.

Then I have to install the return to the house and the gate, then a fence between the house and the workshop, then another gate between the workshop and the eastern fence and the back yard MIGHT contain the cats. For a while.

And we made Yakisoba for tea to celebrate!

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




How do you folks need so much hard drive space? I try not be be a physical or digital hoarder. I think I have maybe 2tb all told, and 1tb is a backup external.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

spog posted:

Who the hell are you?

Name + avatar change a the same time and you make me feel like I am my aunt Mabel who gets confused.

Fart Pipe

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


Suburban Dad posted:

How do you folks need so much hard drive space? I try not be be a physical or digital hoarder. I think I have maybe 2tb all told, and 1tb is a backup external.

I run a media NAS - I have 32TB with a 32TB offsite backup. Right now I have ~20TB of content, adding about 5TB of content annually.

The onsite are all HGST 8TB drives I shucked out of $160/ea WD EasyStores a few months ago. The offsites are all WD Red 8TB I shucked out of WD EasyStores last year when they were $180/ea.

I'm holding off on the 10TB drives for now, though locally I have seen them as low as $200 on occasion.

I've had reasonably good luck with WD through the years, exception being their Essentials drives (especially the 1.5TB) that were known hot garbage. I still have a pile of working 1 and 2TB drives that ran 24/7 for years with no issues.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro



He'll always be Pipkin to me :glomp:

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro



I didn't pay attention to utilities the last time I was in AUS - are those propane tanks? I'm guessing you guys use those like we do Natural Gas?

Also, post catte pictures (nice Wine Shanty btw) :D

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Suburban Dad posted:

How do you folks need so much hard drive space? I try not be be a physical or digital hoarder. I think I have maybe 2tb all told, and 1tb is a backup external.

Hey man, 4K porn vids take up a lot of space!

Is there a primer on NAS and how they work? I have an 8tb USB3.0 drive attached to my main PC but I think it would be handy to share to all my devices in the house.

Goober Peas posted:

I didn't pay attention to utilities the last time I was in AUS - are those propane tanks? I'm guessing you guys use those like we do Natural Gas?
I have family in the Caribbean with no natural gas infrastructure and they also have 100+lb propane tanks just like that for their range. The obvious answer would seem to be electric but the grid in some places aren't great (can't speak for Aus) and electricity can be horrifically expensive.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Unexpected complication in fixing my car: my mom is suddenly inconsolable about me being under the car without her watching me like a hawk. Guess I'm not fixing it while my niece is around distracting her.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

slidebite posted:

Hey man, 4K porn vids take up a lot of space!

Is there a primer on NAS and how they work? I have an 8tb USB3.0 drive attached to my main PC but I think it would be handy to share to all my devices in the house.

The Synology NAS seem to have quite a few features that do those kind of things, are relatively cheap and you don't have to be Linus to use them.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
My insurance adjuster sent me the picture of the "small crack" on the front bumper of the Forte that the body shop sent him.



I'm loving pissed. There's no way the appraiser would've overlooked it and there's no way I was driving it around like this before the accident.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat

I'll be down there in a week. My half bother and Dad live there, though.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Ferremit posted:


And we made Yakisoba for tea to celebrate!



Glad to see I wasn't the only one who got hungry after that AvE video.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


Fermented Tinal posted:

My insurance adjuster sent me the picture of the "small crack" on the front bumper of the Forte that the body shop sent him.



I'm loving pissed. There's no way the appraiser would've overlooked it and there's no way I was driving it around like this before the accident.

Somebody curbed it

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Or it hooked on the tow truck. Either way not your doing.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

Wrar posted:

I'll be down there in a week. My half bother and Dad live there, though.

You have a PM.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Why'd you jerks let me buy a house? Painting SUCKS.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Rhyno posted:

Why'd you jerks let me buy a house? Painting SUCKS.

Never heard that before.

In other news, I thanked Saint Kashoggi for my sweet $2.54/gallon 93 octane murder gas today.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

meatpimp posted:

Never heard that before.

In other news, I thanked Saint Kashoggi for my sweet $2.54/gallon 93 octane murder gas today.

Gas was $1.92/gallon for 7 octane in Van Wert OH yesterday. I don't even know what the gently caress.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

Rhyno posted:

Why'd you jerks let me buy a house? Painting SUCKS.

Human beings have this thing where they like to watch a disaster unfold from a safe distance.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Fermented Tinal posted:

Human beings have this thing where they like to watch a disaster unfold from a safe distance.

It's called schadenfreude. And it can be glorious.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Playing the Sheep Game is glorious too.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Rhyno posted:

Gas was $1.92/gallon for 7 octane in Van Wert OH yesterday. I don't even know what the gently caress.

Oil prices are down because OPEC is afraid of an embargo over the KSA's shittiness.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Liquid Communism posted:

Oil prices are down because OPEC is afraid of an embargo over the KSA's shittiness.

No I know why, I just can't wrap my head around it looking back at prices over the last year.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Hey look what I found in my garage

Powered it up for first time in probably 20 years.



I am 1000% positive that the memory of the old flight sims is better than actually playing the old flight sims :(

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

slidebite posted:

Hey look what I found in my garage

Powered it up for first time in probably 20 years.



I am 1000% positive that the memory of the old flight sims is better than actually playing the old flight sims :(

If it still has a black brick power supply, they tend to drift over time and fry chips from overvoltage. The supplies aren't repairable.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

slidebite posted:

Hey look what I found in my garage

Powered it up for first time in probably 20 years.



I am 1000% positive that the memory of the old flight sims is better than actually playing the old flight sims :(

Get a replacement power supply from Ray Carlsen before the original brick fries the computer. Also, sweet, I brought one of these back from the dead a few months ago, had to replace every ram chip.

E: Just saw Seat's post, lol.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
This guy fixes old "junk" computers from that era on his youtube channel and is pretty entertaining in doing so.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE5dIscvDxrb7CD5uiJJOiw

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shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

Goober Peas posted:

He'll always be Pipkin to me :glomp:

Billy Tully too. Fat City is such a great movie.

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