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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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the difference is that playing a guitarr is cool while being autistically good at MMO's is lame as gently caress

I hope this was enlightening

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Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
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itskage posted:

I'm guessing you have never played a game at a high level? This really breaks down when you apply the same principles. You're dismissing the fact that video games are something you can practice and become skilled at.

For instance I've found practicing really long combos in something like the Marvel vs Capcom series to being just as rewarding as learning the melody to a song on my guitar. They're fun to learn and experiment with. Even more so when you play someone and you're able to beat them in a match executing what you practiced instead of losing because you dropped your combo right at the end giving them the chance to comeback.

Lots of fighting games require hours of practice, learning to read people, becoming confident enough to execute under pressure.

Team shooters where you have to coordinate with a team, and practice your kit. Like a sniper player will spend time working on twitch shooting, so they can react and shoot an opponent instantly and accurately (again under pressure, I've missed so many shots during tense moments)

Or look at MMOs like FF14 where the highest level content requires a group of 8 people to perform the mechanics of their classes and the boss fight by coordinating and communicating with each other over a period of 10-15 minutes. Some fights tuned so difficult that just one person making a mistake will wipe the group.

Even old single player games have a community of speed runners working on finding the fastest way to beat a game, then spending hours practicing to post the fastest times.

Or poo poo like beaglerush's xcom runs where you see an experienced player minimize risks and play through a game in a meticulous manner that allows them to beat it on the hardest difficulty, despite most casual players assuming an 80% chance to hit means they will.


I don't know. Playing an instrument is cool and I practice my guitar almost every day and it's nice that this skill has value outside a digital world, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a better use of my free time then just playing video games I like.

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Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
if you aren't prepared for a future where your skill at fortnite has more social utility than your ability to draw, play an instrument etc. then you're already hopelessly out of touch lol

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
That's why I'm exclusively watching LPs

:smug:

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Zzulu posted:

the difference is that playing a guitarr is cool while being autistically good at MMO's is lame as gently caress

I hope this was enlightening

yes grandpa

e;fb

itskage
Aug 26, 2003



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bike tory posted:

Only a very small number of people play video games the way you describe, but yeah I don't see why you couldn't consider that a hobby.

Speedrunners/competitive FPS/RTS/fighting game players etc I mean. MMOs are not really difficult in my experience, they are literally just skinner boxes.

Less people play the way I describe I agree, but I doubt it's a very small number given the massive size and popularity of competitive games.

MMOs are usually front loaded with lame stuff, but I can assure you challenging content does exist in them. Not about to recommend an MMO to anyone though.

Scaramouche posted:

To tie all this together someone should post a list of all the Rocksmith dlc

Nice.

Zzulu posted:

the difference is that playing a guitarr is cool while being autistically good at MMO's is lame as gently caress

I hope this was enlightening

Maybe guitar, but don't fool yourself if you think whatever lame thing you learned in marching band is cooler than the kids playing fortnite.

Karate Bastard posted:

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Fister Roboto posted:

I appreciate this post. Never be afraid to post what's in your heart.

:justpost:

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
The Schaden is coming from the ins-oh wait

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

itskage posted:

MMOs are usually front loaded with lame stuff, but I can assure you challenging content does exist in them. Not about to recommend an MMO to anyone though.

It's not about how much skill is required per se, MMOs are all about gear. You just need to grind enough to get enough gear to do enough damage/healing fast enough to beat the boss. And then the company releases another patch or expansion which adds another 20 levels and 3 tiers of epic gear and poo poo, and you start all over again. So MMOs get more enjoyable artificially, you get "better" artificially, there's nothing really there behind it.

It's not comparable to pro eSports which more or less stay the same aside from the occasional balance changes.

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
A lot of fights in MMOs are doable with entirely inadequate characters with entirely inadequate gear, and that's where the fun can be had on a higher level. Or you can wait a month, buy better gear and do it in a jiffy.

The fact that both ways exist is what makes it good, since you don't have to be some kind of pro gamer to clear poo poo, and if you are you can still have fun when new content lands.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

I was just itching to post that

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at someone :)

You should see some of the stupid poo poo I waste my life on :hfive:

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Holy poo poo this thread 'your hobby doesn't even count as a hobby' SKINNER BOX I don't even own a TV

pass the Grey Poupon

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
E: meant that for the cursed thread. Uh here:



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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

:gonk:

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Haha poo poo you caught my edit. I guess Michigan weed could be a meme

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Video games are the anime of hobbies.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

ChubbyChecker posted:

Video games are the anime of hobbies.

I can't tell if that means you love them or hate them.

central dogma
Feb 25, 2012

Come to the Undead Settlement in the next 20 mins if u want an ash kicking

DiggityDoink posted:

I wish the drive thru meme was probeable here like it is in other subforums. That joke is loving stale.

Nice meltdown.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

ChubbyChecker posted:

Video games are the anime of hobbies.

Me gaming:

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
Where do anime videogames fit in the analogy

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Samuringa posted:

Where do anime videogames fit in the analogy

In the rubbish bin.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Samuringa posted:

Where do anime videogames fit in the analogy

They're the video games of hobbies.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Gal: So what are you into?

Me: Gaming

Gal: You sick freak, get away from me right now!

Me: Oh sorry, I'm into anime titties

Gal: Oh jeeze, why didn't you say so, I love minecraft.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

LifeSunDeath posted:

Gal: So what are you into?

Me: Gaming

Gal: You sick freak, get away from me right now!

Me: Oh sorry, I'm into anime titties

Gal: Oh jeeze, why didn't you say so, I love minecraft.

wow, we really do live in a society, gamers rise up

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

I appreciate that the book is right to left

whoda thunkit
Sep 20, 2010
Every time I'm on the fence about buying a new videogame I think about all the stupid money I pissed away at the bar and say "fuckit" and buy it.

Then I go back to the bar and never play the game.

wuffles
Apr 10, 2004

gamers rise up



at least 15 minutes out of every hour



this meme made by dvt awareness gang



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Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Every minute of playing computer games is one minute of not watching porn, drinking heroin bongs, doing crime and contracting hiv get your priorities straight people

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Karate Bastard posted:

Every minute of playing computer games is one minute of not watching porn, drinking heroin bongs, doing crime and contracting hiv get your priorities straight people

Gay people ought to get their priorities, also.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

wuffles posted:

gamers rise up



at least 15 minutes out of every hour



this meme made by dvt awareness gang



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Oh poo poo, yes this is true. Get up and work those calves, heel raises, marching in place, stretching. Don't do what Donnie DVT did.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

bike tory posted:

It's not about how much skill is required per se, MMOs are all about gear. You just need to grind enough to get enough gear to do enough damage/healing fast enough to beat the boss. And then the company releases another patch or expansion which adds another 20 levels and 3 tiers of epic gear and poo poo, and you start all over again. So MMOs get more enjoyable artificially, you get "better" artificially, there's nothing really there behind it.

It's not comparable to pro eSports which more or less stay the same aside from the occasional balance changes.

That's why new raids come out my man. It does not negate the influence of skill. Geared or not, doing a current raid where you need to coordinate 8 people near flawlessly for 13 straight minutes is skill no matter how you slice it :shrug:

A lot of people can't do it, which is why they have to wait til a tier or two later for it to be heavily obsoleted.

BillyC
Feb 19, 2013

everythin' under heaven is in utter chaos, cloud


Bread Liar
These GAMERZZ keep cooking ALL the BEANS!!!!!

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

Paladinus posted:

Gay people ought to get their priorities, also.

Truth. I shouldn't assume priority privilege.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Fister Roboto posted:

I appreciate this post. Never be afraid to post what's in your heart.

Actually you should do the opposite

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


When does this thread host its annual Memeys? I wanna vote Bongo Cat for meme of the year.



:3:

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Was steamed hams this year.If it was , that was best meme

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Haha poo poo you caught my edit. I guess Michigan weed could be a meme

Is Michigan weed like a Michigan left?

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
close the loving thread. Jesus loving christ.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Coward

itskage
Aug 26, 2003


Gay Horney posted:

close the loving thread. Jesus loving christ.

@staff's account spotted.

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Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Cartoon Man posted:

When does this thread host its annual Memeys? I wanna vote Bongo Cat for meme of the year.



:3:

It was a good year, Steamed Hams, Lamps, Bongo Cat, Bowsette, Jealous Girlfriend

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