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MiddleOne posted:France also has the benefit of only being marginally turbo-hosed by joining the Euro. Well Britain didn't join the euro at all, so the main difference really is lovely racist newspapers and decades of political discourse that boiled down to "austerity + gently caress immigrants". A really good example of why pandering to the racists will blow up in your face eventually.
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Kassad posted:Well Britain didn't join the euro at all, so the main difference really is lovely racist newspapers and decades of political discourse that boiled down to "austerity + gently caress immigrants". A really good example of why pandering to the racists will blow up in your face eventually. I meant in comparison to the rest of the Eurozone. The UK was one of the definitive winners of the introduction of the Euro and are irrational about it in the way only the dying remnant of an empire could be.
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Kind of scary that immigrants is that high on the list. I'm privileged enough to be considered one of the good ones, but it's a real issue and one that makes me wary of them. That said practically all factions of French politics are anti-immigrant to some degree so yeah.
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Kassad posted:Well Britain didn't join the euro at all, so the main difference really is lovely racist newspapers and decades of political discourse that boiled down to "austerity + gently caress immigrants". A really good example of why pandering to the racists will blow up in your face eventually. If by "your face" you meant "newspaper's face" then I don't think they lost that much. The Sun is the original Facebook.
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I was thinking about political parties like Labour. At least the wing that tried pandering to the racists and predictably failed.
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Kassad posted:I was thinking about political parties like Labour. At least the wing that tried pandering to the racists and predictably failed. Don't worry, they're still lurking in the background waiting for an opportunity to try again. 
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MiddleOne posted:Don't worry, they're still lurking in the background waiting for an opportunity to try again. I'm sorry, in what way is Corbyn's wing not trying to pander to racist by treating immigration as a problem?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm sorry, in what way is Corbyn's wing not trying to pander to racist by treating immigration as a problem? When has union-side left wing Britain ever not been in favor of regulating work immigration? I meant in contrast to the staunch 'no brown people please, not for any reason' side of the argument represented by nationalists and back-peddaling centrist politicians.
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Most Social Democrats are skeptical of open border style liberal bullshit for labour market reasons, it has nothing to do with race. Blair was a Tory with a red pin though. How's the far left on this issue in France? Afaik PS is basically dead.
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It's also a political qualm that predates alt-right populism, so yeah.
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Hey remember that rear end in a top hat? https://twitter.com/le_Parisien/status/1074360952122982400?s=19 https://twitter.com/le_Parisien/status/1074361857656455168?s=19
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:How's the far left on this issue in France? Still getting single digits at every election because they're mostly out of touch ?
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There has been no far left in France since the 70’s at best Mélenchon is pretty centrist, there’s some marxism in the NPA, LO is kinda left-wing, but there’s no party with a totally marxist platform in this day and age It’s a shame, too, because it’d work really well when you look at the proletariat’s working conditions
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm sorry, in what way is Corbyn's wing not trying to pander to racist by treating immigration as a problem? When Blairites said they were for 'Controlling Migration' they meant it as a racist dogwistle. When Corbyn says he's for 'Controlling Migration' he means it as an earnest effort to protect British workers from globalization. Simple. Flowers For Algeria posted:There has been no far left in France since the 70’s at best By that standard there's been no far left anywhere for the past 30 years. There are no orthodox Marxist-Leninists in mainstream French politics for the same reason there aren't any constitutional monarchists, the country has changed and political culture has moved on.
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Nous avons une définition différente de l’intelligence imo
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Ah yes, the classic: we haven't explained it well enough, and even if we did, you cunts are too stupid to understand it anyhow. Ca va aider leur image de connards arrogants c'est certain. e: Even more funny when the only reason the gilets jaunes exist in the first place is because Macron et al have been so blatantly greedy and contemptuous. Llyd fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Dec 17, 2018 |
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Le retour de la pensée complexe.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:When Blairites said they were for 'Controlling Migration' they meant it as a racist dogwistle. When Corbyn says he's for 'Controlling Migration' he means it as an earnest effort to protect British workers from globalization. Simple. Crying_Portuguese_communist_party_flag.jpg So this thing is spreading, there's a yellow jackets movement in portugal with a protest scheduled for the 21st.(its mostly right wing shitheads)
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"Trop subtile, trop technique dans les mesures de pouvoir d'achat" English translation for any reader who can't read French: "we've been too good at cheating with statistics to make things look better than they're actually like".
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The actual English translation, because it's so loving dickish it needs to be read: A second error was made: we've probably been too intelligent, too subtle, too technical when it comes to measures regarding purchasing power. Like, gently caress off, you giant piece of poo poo. You are not so intelligent that people didn't realize you were playing 4D chess.
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"We aren't just the smartest but also the most humble and the reason half the population France think they are living in the most arrogant country in Europe" said the technocrat before starting to fellate himself live on national television.
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Dec 17, 2018 16:19
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Fallen Hamprince posted:By that standard there's been no far left anywhere for the past 30 years. There are no orthodox Marxist-Leninists in mainstream French politics for the same reason there aren't any constitutional monarchists, the country has changed and political culture has moved on.
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:So this thing is spreading, there's a yellow jackets movement in portugal with a protest scheduled for the 21st.(its mostly right wing shitheads) There was one here in Canada, they seem really into QAnon for some reason.  Cool movement.
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I've been seeing this in Australia - is this an accurate reflection of the movement?
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Yeah, that sounds like a lot of bullshit, especially where it gets into 'globalist methodology' and also 'frexit'.
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Yeah frexit made me stop and wonder what the gently caress this was. e: anyway thanks, I was reading some people really buying into this meme as "the official french charter" and wanted to check in here... clusterfuck fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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"Remove all ideology from the Ministry of Education" I love when people have opinions on poo poo they don't understand.
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clusterfuck posted:I've been seeing this in Australia - is this an accurate reflection of the movement? Translated by "Deep State Mapping Project".  Well at least i will give it to them it's an accurate translation of the bullshit original in French. Of course, the original was vomited by a non representative far right idiots trying to bullshit smooth brained facebook readers.e: VVVVV yes i forgot by a group of "«abstentionnistes». Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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Libération has a brief story on the original if you can read French. As others have said, it’s an accurate translation of a Facebook post that isn’t representative of the bulk of the gilets jaune, although there’s an fringe element that would agree with it.
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Look at all those meaningless unverifiable numbers  https://twitter.com/Dugat76/status/1074999345089576960 quote:«Nous vivons un moment de cristallisation dans la vie politique, où un certain nombre de nos concitoyens nous disent: “continuez à réformer le pays”.» quote:À noter également que contrairement à la majorité des autres partis, les adhésions à LaREM sont gratuites et peuvent êtres réalisées grâce à un simple clic sur le site internet du mouvement.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm sorry, in what way is Corbyn's wing not trying to pander to racist by treating immigration as a problem? Been behind on what the liberal smears on Corbyn have been lately, ty for the update.
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clusterfuck posted:I've been seeing this in Australia - is this an accurate reflection of the movement? Someone in a local Facebook group posted that and I yelled at him about how stupid it was until he took it down.
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It's good to know that even after those horrible horrible journos ruined your bodyguard career there is always Françafrique.Le Monde posted:Voyage au Tchad : Alexandre Benalla s’est reconverti dans la diplomatie privée en Afrique
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I wonder where Benalla is going to pop up next. Edit: loving LMAO how far does this rabbit hole go https://twitter.com/Mediapart/status/1078277316193726464 Also Mediapart having Benalla's face as their Twitter banner is 
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Dec 27, 2018 14:33
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Private diplomacy, is this codeword for arms deals
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Kurtofan posted:Private diplomacy, is this codeword for arms deals Hey now. They might be selling surveillance technology too.
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Hi French goons, I didn't advertise this before because y'all were having troubles but if you are interested in participating, there are stickied threads in both D&D and CSPAM for a blood/charity drive, and you have until December 31st, 11:59 American Central time to participate if you are so inclined/able. Cheers!
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Kurtofan posted:Private diplomacy, is this codeword for arms deals If we're talking about African countries, none of them can buy weapons without going through the Coface.
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