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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
| New York |
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21 | 12.57% |
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12 | 7.19% |
| Stamford |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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Also, Akeem was a Vince's juvenile shot at Dusty Rhodes.
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Davros1 posted:Also, Akeem was a Vince's juvenile shot at Dusty Rhodes. Both were!
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Dec 17, 2018 02:48
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MassRafTer posted:Both were! True!
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Dec 17, 2018 02:49
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Akeem was ostensibly a parody of Dusty, so as racist angles go, Virgil was far more egregious. They even expanded on that with Sapphire, when Dibiase "bought" her too.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:49
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MassRafTer posted:But this poo poo was all over the tabloid media. The Donahue shows was days after Larry King and then you had Now It Can Be Told too. The NY Post was all over it. To even do Donahue the WWF tried to demand to be allowed to put plants in the crowd to make themselves look better because they knew Vince was seen as a pariah after Larry King. I guess I should have said that WWE can break through into the mainstream attention with a scandal, but it can't hold the attention long enough for something to really happen. The Benoit murders did. Steroids and that Costas interview did. The Saudi Arabia stuff did. There was enough attention during Linda's campaign to prompt "Stand Up For WWE." But it doesn't have any real staying power because I think the WWE fans have just desensitized themselves into not caring and the rest of the world just doesn't give enough of a poo poo about WWE to hold interest. Its like people calling you up to tell you your cousin or classmate you never see and never liked and never think of did something terrible. It gets your attention for a minute, you discuss it with the people who care more than you, but then you get back to your life and forget about them again. The closest I thought we ever came was when Linda was running for office and I thought maybe she could prove enough of a nuisance for political enemies to want to kill her off. But that didn't happen.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:50
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Suplex Liberace posted:Tweet this tournament to reporters? gently caress that's a good idea. Unless it's a bad idea. But I think it's a good idea.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:50
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I went with Virgil but this was a tougher choice than I expected https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1074480448561131526 
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Dec 17, 2018 02:51
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Suplex Liberace posted:Tweet this tournament to reporters? John Oliver might care
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Dec 17, 2018 02:52
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sticklefifer posted:Akeem was ostensibly a parody of Dusty, so as racist angles go, Virgil was far more egregious. They even expanded on that with Sapphire, when Dibiase "bought" her too. The name Sapphire being a reference to Amos and Andy because Vince is super racist. ChrisBTY posted:gently caress that's a good idea. While I doubt any "mainstream" or co-opted reporters will care feel free. I've been focusing on getting VOW to break it down. They promised they would but ran out of time on the latest Flagship.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:53
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The weirdest thing I think about the Akeem, Virgil, and Sapphire stuff is if you collected it all and showed it to someone who had no idea who Dusty Rhodes was and explained how they were all ways intended to embarrass and demean him for some petty reason that person would almost certainly draw the most logical conclusion that Dusty must be a black dude. And then when that person asked why every mockery of a white cowboy was racist as poo poo towards black people I'd have absolutely no idea how to answer that. "Because Vince thought Dusty 'talked black?'"
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Dec 17, 2018 02:56
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Remember when WWE was caught handing out "Stand Up for WWE" shirts at polling places?
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Dec 17, 2018 02:56
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Benne posted:I went with Virgil but this was a tougher choice than I expected What sold it for me is that he is still referred to as Virgil. His entire run with DiBiase is from before I was born, yet that racist gimmick will outlive it's performer.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:09
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I just discovered this thread and read the entire thing. I have learned so many awful, awful things and the combination of the Pillman video and the Ring Boys news ruined my weekend. Thank you.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:20
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karmicknight posted:What sold it for me is that he is still referred to as Virgil. His entire run with DiBiase is from before I was born, yet that racist gimmick will outlive it's performer. I voted for Akeem because Virgil at least got an angle about finally telling DiBiase to gently caress off, but I never even thought about that. He's going to have the Million Dollar Man's weird slavery barely-subtext following him until the day he dies, and that is really bad.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:27
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Yeah, I voted Akeem but I'm kind of regretting that because its slowly hitting me that even though I think Akeem might have been a more offensive gimmick than Virgil in that case OMG isn't the victim of it while Michael Jones is and will always be. Luckily it looks academic.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:29
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Let's start calling him by his true gimmick name, Curly Bill
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Dec 17, 2018 03:31
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I voted Virgil because making a black guy be a slave seems 1000x worse than Akeem to me.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:32
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Wasn't Virgil also in an angle (not in WWF) where he got beat up by people wearing literal Klan robes?
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Dec 17, 2018 03:32
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Before WWE, he was known as "Soul Train" Jones.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:36
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Benne posted:Wasn't Virgil also in an angle (not in WWF) where he got beat up by people wearing literal Klan robes? Yes and the one of the guys in the Klan robes was Jim Neidhart.
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Dec 17, 2018 03:44
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Akeem vs Saba Simba would be a fun non-tourney vote.
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Dec 17, 2018 04:35
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Speaking of Akeem the African Dream, Slick was a pretty problematic character. By the time I started watching he had become the Reverend Slick and was trying to civilize Kamala. It's a rabbit hole of racism that just doesn't stop.
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Dec 17, 2018 05:12
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sticklefifer posted:Akeem vs Saba Simba would be a fun non-tourney vote. Does Tony Atlas actually being black make it better or worse. And kudos to Roddy Piper. Undoubtedly he's done his share of lovely things, but he nuked that gimmick the second Atlas walked out.
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Dec 17, 2018 05:45
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“THAT’S JUST TONY ATLAS!” One of the great all-time balloon poppings for a gimmick.
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Dec 17, 2018 05:49
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Forgot about the ways you could stand up for WWE https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1074524787924443136?s=19
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Dec 17, 2018 05:50
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I voted Akeem because when I did my Golden Era thread this last year I got through the whole thing without picking up on the slave connotations of Virgil's relationship with DiBiase whereas the awfulness of Akeem is front and centre.
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Dec 17, 2018 05:52
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Virgil cause getting a black man to play a save on wrestling is worse than the Akeem although watching the video made it closer than I thought it would
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Dec 17, 2018 07:21
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MassRafTer posted:Forgot about the ways you could stand up for WWE https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1074524787924443136?s=19 What about Tout
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Dec 17, 2018 07:28
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I've been Touting this entire tournament
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Dec 17, 2018 15:11
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Baron Corbin posted:last i checked, having sex involves two people. if those boys "didn't want" to have sex with that old man, then they would have refused. i recently found out that it's illegal to force someone to have sex with you against their will, so those boys would have declined and possibly reported it to the police if they felt uncomfortable. Yes because we are comparing adults to children here.
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Dec 17, 2018 15:12
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Baseball sucks rear end!
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Dec 17, 2018 15:14
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Cavauro posted:Baseball sucks rear end! The baseball forum seems to have the same dumb opinions as you guys so maybe you should have a group meeting or something.
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Dec 17, 2018 15:19
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That's the basketball forum
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Dec 17, 2018 15:22
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1074703785736499201
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Dec 17, 2018 17:32
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Someone almost dying vs even more shady practices with letting talent get on steroids! https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1074742284451745792
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Dec 17, 2018 20:13
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"Elevated Liver Enzymes"
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Dec 17, 2018 20:33
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MassRafTer posted:Someone almost dying vs even more shady practices with letting talent get on steroids! This is a tough one. I really feel that the laughable state of WWE's wellness program really led to Tyson's injury more than anything. They aren't testing wrestlers to make sure they're physically capable of taking impacts.
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Dec 17, 2018 20:41
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I don't know enough about Kidd's injury to fully judge this but I went with the Pre-Wellness Policy as that effected a whole lot of wrestlers and is directly responsible for the early deaths of the likes of Eddie, Crash and Test.
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Dec 17, 2018 20:52
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Here's the full tweet mentioned in the poll thread: https://twitter.com/TJWilson/status...a-joe-bret-hart
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Rarity posted:I don't know enough about Kidd's injury to fully judge this but I went with the Pre-Wellness Policy as that effected a whole lot of wrestlers and is directly responsible for the early deaths of the likes of Eddie, Crash and Test. Yeah, same. Having the Tyson Kidd situation seeded higher is weird to me.
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