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Involuntary Sparkle posted:That's almost 100% of politics in Seattle these days, good times. Can't have more housing because "it'll change the neighborhood" aka "my property value will go down because of increased supply." Hey, at least it means you get to have creepy Enlightened Centrists telling you that also poor people and minorities are just as bad for trying to find ways to stay in the neighborhood. The ideal solution is for all major roads to be immense canyons of nameless glass boxes with yoga studios in the ground floor units.
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friendbot2000 posted:People need to stop living in suburbia anyways. We need to build up not out because population densification and walkable cities are very important to combatting carbon emissions. Plus, aren't there more houses in the United States than people living in them? Probably not as there is unregistered amount of homeless that could maybe occupy all the unsold cookie cutter homes and you'd still need to double dip into taking every trump hotel and transforming it into a free and permanent apartment complex. But there sure as poo poo is a lot of houses and abandoned housing just sitting around, crying that millennial and Zlenials won't pay our exorbitant old people over pricing.
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friendbot2000 posted:People need to stop living in suburbia anyways. We need to build up not out because population densification and walkable cities are very important to combatting carbon emissions. Plus, aren't there more houses in the United States than people living in them? Ya, there are more houses, but do you want to live in a house in a small South Dakota town with only dial up internet access? Because there are reasons why no one is living there.
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The Glumslinger posted:An insurance deductible is the amount you have to pay out of pocket before the insurance kicks in, it's generally a yearly thing. Cheaper health insurance tends to have a higher deductible. The ACA regulated how big deductables could be removed the "donut deductible" (gonna make up numbers to explain how it worked) which meant that you would cover the first $3000, then they would cover the next $47000, then you would be on the hook for everything after that. It also banned lifetime caps which mean that insurance companies would track how they paid out over you're lifetime and if it went over like a million bucks, welp no more insurance for you. Sorry, because I'm pretty ignorant about healthcare policy. What you're saying is the donut deductible is/was illegal under the ACA?
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Mineaiki posted:Sorry, because I'm pretty ignorant about healthcare policy. What you're saying is the donut deductible is/was illegal under the ACA? Yes, the ACA (Obamacare) banned donut deductibles and lifetime caps
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Involuntary Sparkle posted:Oooh boy. I bus from Ballard to Sodo for work and while I don't get on the 99, I'm dreading finding out how this will affect my commute. I loving hate how the United States only answer to solving traffic is to expand the roads more which doesn't loving solve the problem. Studies have shown that increasing lanes to combat traffic actually increases traffic in the long run. Walkable cities, mass transit, telecommuting, and population densification are the only proven ways to lessen traffic and as a HANDY SIDE-EFFECT, limit carbon emissions. There is no earthly reason why office workers should have to go into the office every drat day when telecommuting exists. karthun posted:Ya, there are more houses, but do you want to live in a house in a small South Dakota town with only dial up internet access? Because there are reasons why no one is living there. True, but we need to move away from this stupid "white-picket fence" fantasy and start building condo complexes. The Suburbian Sprawl actually hurts local economies. You consume less water and electricity in a densified environment too. friendbot2000 fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Dec 17, 2018 |
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My dad still tries to sell me on the idea that owning a car is a symbol of freedom and boy, do I sure drive anywhere in this dead gently caress area to a non job, let me tell you. There's just so much no where to get lost in and lose any interest in travel!
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I hope there's a shitload of Mueller news this week. It's probably our last chance to get it until after the new year.
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Aramis posted:You would think that explicitly calling political opponents non-humans would be a little on the nose, yet here we are. Owlofcreamcheese posted:Chuds There is nothing "political" about Nazis, proud boys, or other associated shithead: This isn't a discussion about the best way to appropriate extra municipal money collected by laws and regulation, they don't have political goals, they don't have policy ideas, they're monsters that just want people to die for the way they were born. They CHOOSE to be Chuds by removing their own humanity.
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karthun posted:Ya, there are more houses, but do you want to live in a house in a small South Dakota town with only dial up internet access? Because there are reasons why no one is living there.
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friendbot2000 posted:I loving hate how the United States only answer to solving traffic is to expand the roads more which doesn't loving solve the problem. Studies have shown that increasing lanes to combat traffic actually increases traffic in the long run. Walkable cities, mass transit, telecommuting, and population densification are the only proven ways to lessen traffic and as a HANDY SIDE-EFFECT, limit carbon emissions. There is no earthly reason why office workers should have to go into the office every drat day when telecommuting exists. Expanding transit means [underprivileged group] will be able to reach my house, though. Anyway, I think it's great that a more liberal state has moved their primary up, but I wish it was a state with better attitudes about housing and urban development. California is great on a lot of things, but it's a step-by-step What Not To Do when it comes to planning.
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InsertPotPun posted:"Chuds" aren't political opponents, they're Nazis and wannabe Nazis. This is "basket of deplorable" all over again wherein a specific sub-group of people are called out and terrrible people pretend they don't understand the concept and scream that we're calling ALL of them bad when we specified which group we were targeting. Chuds aren't even people. Maybe biologically, but that's the only sense in which they qualify.
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Nenonen posted:Who the gently caress drew this map and what do they have against Australia? I'm the lovingly rendered Chinese provinces. [/quote] I'm the island of Nova Scotia and the peninsula of Newfoundland
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Your Taint posted:Chuds aren't even people. Maybe biologically, but that's the only sense in which they qualify. They do call people with empathy NPCs and accuse liberals of having hearts with blood, and seem to crave for a lack of brain so they could be zombies in fact...
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https://twitter.com/NegarMortazavi/status/1074686732749209601 wow that's some news, re: flynn
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The Glumslinger posted:An insurance deductible is the amount you have to pay out of pocket before the insurance kicks in, it's generally a yearly thing. Cheaper health insurance tends to have a higher deductible. The ACA regulated how big deductables could be removed the "donut deductible" (gonna make up numbers to explain how it worked) which meant that you would cover the first $3000, then they would cover the next $47000, then you would be on the hook for everything after that. It also banned lifetime caps which mean that insurance companies would track how they paid out over you're lifetime and if it went over like a million bucks, welp no more insurance for you. She had a preemie who only survived 9 days in the NICU. The cost of care went over a million dollars. The small business her husband worked for could no longer offer health insurance, because the insurance company raised their premiums so high. As a result they lost coverage. Since the baby's health problems were related to her pregnancy, she became uninsurable, because the risk of pregnancy complications was a pre-existing condition. The ACA has plenty of problems, but at least it prevented this particular type of travesty from happening to people anymore.
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Mineaiki posted:Expanding transit means [underprivileged group] will be able to reach my house, though. I don't disagree, but hopefully that won't bleed too much into the primary since it's viewed as a more local issue. On the other hand, these kind of policies probably need to be pushed at a national level, so I guess let's just hope that the voters of California push for a green new deal style policy, and never think about how that would involve large increases in mass transit and dense housing.
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Eeyo posted:I don't disagree, but hopefully that won't bleed too much into the primary since it's viewed as a more local issue. On the other hand, these kind of policies probably need to be pushed at a national level, so I guess let's just hope that the voters of California push for a green new deal style policy, and never think about how that would involve large increases in mass transit and dense housing. One of the odd side effects of combatting climate change will have a ton of positive developments for all manner of things in our society: transportation, housing, healthcare.
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My favorite part about Paris is the right-wing thinking it's an indictment of "leftist" Macron... My dudes, them yellow vests are protesting rich people right now. It's a capitalism bottom-up protest and it's supported broadly by the full political spectrum. Be afraid, chuds.
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Chilichimp posted:My favorite part about Paris is the right-wing thinking it's an indictment of "leftist" Macron... The French have a history of disposing of the rich in very effective ways.
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friendbot2000 posted:There is no earthly reason why office workers should have to go into the office every drat day when telecommuting exists. I've been fully doing this for the past 3 years in an industry where it's pretty uncommon. I mean, you'll see remote workers, but never in any higher position, and it's generally only considered freelance. But I'm one of the new group of workers who knows how to make remote work happen, so I'm able to be in a much more senior role, handling stuff that would normally be done entirely locally, managing other employees, working with clients, etc. It causes some consternation among clients if they find out, but we have such a broad spectrum of work that they can't really say "oh, I'm afraid the quality will suffer" when they already approved and used a ton of stuff done remotely without knowing. Especially when it costs them a little less. Now, from a company side this gives them the opportunity to relabel a bunch of their employees as independent contractors, as they're no longer providing hardware or internet, and won't give benefits for remote workers. That is bullshit and exploited to no end, and really needs to change before we end up with a permanent 1099 economy. Sure, I make way more than nearly anyone else with less than 5 years experience, can kinda set my own schedule, and can remove myself from industry stress. And yeah, my work has been seen by tens to hundreds of millions of people at this point. But I don't have benefits or health insurance, and only have the support of the company behind me in the sense that I'm cheaper than an in-house employee, so they don't want to lose me. If I really wanted to maximize my worth, I'd have to move across the country and work in-house at a place. Could easily double my pay along with all the perks and benefits. But the cities where this industry are big are not places I want to live - already lived in one of them, hated it, so I'm willing to make the trade offs for now.
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looks like the charging documents haven't been unsealed quite yet, have to wait a bit to see how the indictment describes the gulen conspiracy https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1074689716363112449 also this is the eastern district of virginia, not mueller e: here https://twitter.com/Tierney_Megan/status/1074687742645334016
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friendbot2000 posted:The French have a history of disposing of the rich in very effective ways. My favorite video of the last week is yellow vest Farmers just backing up their tractor closer and closer to French police and then turn on some kind of device in the back that continually flings pig poo poo at them. The police and all their vehicles just covered over in pig poo poo
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Chuds do you know what chud means?
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this indictment makes it extremely clear michael flynn knew that the turkish government was behind the entire anti-Gulen campaign, as they quote emails sent to flynn describing conversations with Turkish ministers
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CHUD is a description of what they do; they have lost empathy by detaching from the rest of society, they live in a subterranean world that had a completely hosed mythology that continues to alienate them from above-ground society, and it causes them to only be able to interact with above-grounders with hostility, through verbal or physical attacks. They used to be human, but constant overexposure to right wing man propaganda has twisted them into creatures unable and unwilling to remember the society they left behind and how they had a place in it. CHUD is an idiom about self-dehumanization. It’s not similar, in this respect, to right wing dehumanization of minorities, because those people didn’t choose the things the right demonizes and dehumanizes them for. The right will call you a cockroach just for existing. The left will call you a CHUD because of things you do and say that you could choose not to do or say.
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friendbot2000 posted:The French have a history of disposing of the rich in very effective ways. I was reading an interesting article the other week which suggested that countries that have gone through a revolution are more likely to have ones in the future. Which is why the French riot and protest all the time and the UK doesnt.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:My favorite video of the last week is yellow vest Farmers just backing up their tractor closer and closer to French police and then turn on some kind of device in the back that continually flings pig poo poo at them. The police and all their vehicles just covered over in pig poo poo This is amazing and I wish Americans would do something similar on the regular. We need to restore the Sword of Damocles above the heads of the powerful in this country, especially corporations.
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Groovelord Neato posted:do you know what chud means? Probably not worth being a pedant about political slang.
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lol apparently the entire pitch revolved around casting Gulen as equivalent to Khomenei, "a soft spoken cleric sitting under an apple tree in Neauphle-le-Chateau in France" in 1978
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CyberPingu posted:I was reading an interesting article the other week which suggested that countries that have gone through a revolution are more likely to have ones in the future. Which is why the French riot and protest all the time and the UK doesnt. I think in the case of the United States we have huffed our own farts enough about the Founding Fathers that we have essentially become an aristocratic theocracy by how we deify these men and their "perfect" Constitution and their noble Great Experiment. Go into any American History class in high school and it sounds no different than Catechism class or Bible Study.
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friendbot2000 posted:This is amazing and I wish Americans would do something similar on the regular. We need to restore the Sword of Damocles above the heads of the powerful in this country, especially corporations.
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friendbot2000 posted:This is amazing and I wish Americans would do something similar on the regular. We need to restore the Sword of Damocles above the heads of the powerful in this country, especially corporations. The cops would shoot you. And get away with it.
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friendbot2000 posted:I think in the case of the United States we have huffed our own farts enough about the Founding Fathers that we have essentially become an aristocratic theocracy by how we deify these men and their "perfect" Constitution and their noble Great Experiment. Go into any American History class in high school and it sounds no different than Catechism class or Bible Study. Only white Americans. pseudanonymous posted:The cops would shoot you. And get away with it. lol, we live in a fascist police state.
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