|
yeah well america is really just a puritanical society so
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 06:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 13:10 |
|
|
Joe Slowboat posted:As far as I am aware (and I talked to a lawyer I'm related to) he's unlikely to be able to wield this trademark against written RPG text, unless he can show there's any consumer confusion between his trademarked Gangrel persona and the Gangrel vampires that appear in the World of Darkness books. Nah. There are currently 4 different registered US trademarks for the word mark "GANGREL". 3 of them are currently owned by White Wolf Entertainment AB, and cover the following goods and services: * Role-playing games. * Role playing game equipment in the nature of game book manuals; Series of fiction books. * Jewelry. Only the 4th is owned by NPO Studios Inc., and while its goods and services are broad I don't think they are going to conflict with the above: * Dietary and nutritional supplements, namely, protein powders and vitamins. * Promotional apparel, namely, t-shirts, hats, bandanas, pants, shorts, and shoes; clothing to wear for wrestling; wrestling boots. * Hot sauce, wing sauce, and barbecue sauce. * Promoting the sale of goods and services of others by promotional appearances of a professional wrestler. * Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer, and live appearances by a professional wrestler; Wrestling school featuring wrestling education and training services. Possible exception of the hot sauce. And if there was confusion White Wolf has the priority by literal decades, to the extent more related to their goods.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:01
|
|
|
Kurieg posted:I imagine the guy at CCP going This is much better to imagine when you keep in mind the guy is a wrestler so maybe you'd have to come into a ring and fight with a 49 year old wrestling dude in front of hundreds of people to defend a trademark every year.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:14
|
|
|
nofather posted:This is much better to imagine when you keep in mind the guy is a wrestler so maybe you'd have to come into a ring and fight with a 49 year old wrestling dude in front of hundreds of people to defend a trademark every year.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:33
|
|
|
Nessus posted:I suspect Swedracula would tap But come on. Dracula versus Gangrel, in the squared circle! It's incredibly VtM. Professional wrestling is professional LARPing.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:35
|
|
|
have y'all seen gangrel lately he ain't getting in a ring
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:37
|
|
|
So apparently BVD stands for "Badass Vs Dracula"?
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 07:37
|
|
|
I'm fascinated by the logic of "I named my character after your trademarked, copyrighted thing. Also it's mine now."
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 11:43
|
|
|
Well, originally he licensed it which makes it even funnier.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 11:52
|
|
|
Should it come to court, Paradox could just stall it out. As an indie wrestler, I promise Gangrel doesn't have a lot of money.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 15:08
|
|
|
Loomer posted:Well, originally he licensed it which makes it even funnier. Actually, it was WWF who licensed it for him originally. Yes I remember this because Gangrel and the Brood were awesome. Also I support Gangrel vs Swedracula in a yearly match for the rights to the name "Gangrel" because that would be hilarious.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 15:12
|
|
|
joylessdivision posted:Also I support Gangrel vs Swedracula in a yearly match for the rights to the name "Gangrel" because that would be hilarious. Sure, but that would only happen the first year. The second year, the Undertaker would show up and steal the trademark away from Gangrel and walk out of the ring with Swedracula only for Kane to hit him with a chair on the way up the ramp with the trademark going back to a no-decision status so that they could have a rematch in March (only on PPV). I must admit, I was likely more amenable to VtM in the 90's because of the WWF.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 15:19
|
|
|
World Wide Wrestling is an excellent game that could be easily modified for WoD flavor.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 15:24
|
|
|
Pope Guilty posted:World Wide Wrestling is an excellent game that could be easily modified for WoD flavor. Vampire and Werewolf Wrestling is always a good flavor.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 15:46
|
|
|
What's this, it's Teardrop's theme music!?
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 16:15
|
|
|
MonsieurChoc posted:What's this, it's Teardrop's theme music!? I just imagined a wrestler walking out to this as the audience nonetheless pops like it's the hypest thing ever. I like the song, it's just not very fast or high energy, which you kind of need for wrastlin music
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 16:22
|
|
|
I was highly entertained by the stories Ethan Skemp told of Rob Hatch telling him all about Monday Night Nitro and the WW crew all getting hooked onto the wrestling 90's boom.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 16:37
|
|
|
Blockhouse posted:have y'all seen gangrel lately But he continues to produce porn movies, so that's gonna be a fun brand association for Paradox to deal with.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 18:32
|
|
|
Kurieg posted:I just imagined a wrestler walking out to this as the audience nonetheless pops like it's the hypest thing ever. Antonin Teardrop is such a Wrestler name, and he would totally have a weird theme song.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 19:03
|
|
|
Jhet posted:Sure, but that would only happen the first year. The second year, the Undertaker would show up and steal the trademark away from Gangrel and walk out of the ring with Swedracula only for Kane to hit him with a chair on the way up the ramp with the trademark going back to a no-decision status so that they could have a rematch in March (only on PPV). Kane is revealed to be Caine? And they elected him mayor in Tennessee.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 19:06
|
|
|
nofather posted:Kane is revealed to be Caine? Absolutely. And then the Hardy Boys come out and Vince McMahon tells them they have to pick sides, but they can't decide! So one goes each way in a twist right at the end of the show for the week. You'll have to tune in next week to find out what happened next! If there's one thing the WWE née WWF had right in the late 90's and early 00's, it was the storytelling. It was absurd and crazy and it made you invested in what happened to the wrestlers as characters as well as in the ring. It was legit soap opera storytelling with a good dose of machismo. I learned a lot about storytelling as an impressionable youth from the stories they told.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 19:13
|
|
|
Sion posted:But he continues to produce porn movies, so that's gonna be a fun brand association for Paradox to deal with. Swedracula skids into the room at top speed "DID SOMEBODY SAY VAMPIRE PORN!?" Jhet posted:Absolutely. And then the Hardy Boys come out and Vince McMahon tells them they have to pick sides, but they can't decide! So one goes each way in a twist right at the end of the show for the week. You'll have to tune in next week to find out what happened next! Martin probably watched the Final Deletion stroking his chin going "yes, yes, this is good." not realizing it was a giant joke.
|
|
#
?
Dec 14, 2018 19:19
|
|
|
There's also the possibility Martin or the old CEO let this happen for whatever reason.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 12:13
|
|
|
Kavak posted:There's also the possibility Martin or the old CEO let this happen for whatever reason. gently caress, we neglected to remember that nuWW are masters of 5 dimensional chess.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 12:52
|
|
|
I wish I knew anything about programming. It'd make this part of the project much easier.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 15:35
|
|
|
Loomer, I'm far from a coder, but I all but guarantee you that learning enough coding to merge your documents or whatever step you're on in your Great Work is going to be less work than doing it by hand. Google around a bit, keep backups, and try just copy/pasting and then tweaking other people's solutions. I taught myself a bit of statistical coding myself last year for my master's degree and trust me, if I can pick it up you can too. Plus you very much do not strike me as the kind of person who's afraid of numbers or processes, which IMO is probably what scares most people away from trying to learn in the first place.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 16:30
|
|
|
Too late on that part. Right now it'd just be useful to have a simple plugin to pull census data and cross-reference it to locations. It's not worth the bother of learning to code for that alone at this stage - there's less than a thousand entries to go on that front and all the rest is set up with the appropriate macros and formulas. I'm slowly working on picking up some C# anyway for the text adventure I want to make. I can't say I'm particularly good at it yet. It's definitely one thing I recommend to anyone who follows my madness and does it for the nWoD though - learn some basic coding and scripting, and for the love of god put things in a language/format easily exportable and consistently notated.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 16:39
|
|
|
At this point it seems like you need to learn GIS. I enjoy the absurbity of the supernatural:human population demographics in your posts with or without maps.
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 18:36
|
|
|
I prefer my populations adaptive. But I have very recently started doing something similar with spirits, just gathering the different kinds of spirits mentioned. So far the most obscure are 'shigella' spirits, that being a sort of disease related to dysentery (which also has spirits).
|
|
#
?
Dec 15, 2018 22:16
|
|
|
Magechat: Can you use Prime 2 shielding to veil your own truth and make it impossible for anyone to tell if you're actually being serious or just ironic/sarcastic? There's no constructive use for this spell (unless you cast it on someone else, I guess), the theoretical NPC that would cast this is basically just an rear end.
|
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 01:45
|
|
|
bewilderment posted:Magechat: I see no reason why you couldn't. You can 'hide' your signature nimbus via the Path of Jerusalem spell that was previewed for Signs of Sorcery, so why not be able to hide truth in a similar way? Just make a clash of wills come up if they try to use Pierce Deception on it and it should be fine. I like that too. I may have to use that idea. My group of mages is coming up on some more socially invested espionage, and this should fit great.
|
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 01:50
|
|
|
As the real horror you just cast that spell on yourself whenever you talk to certain people (say, perhaps... your sleeper family or friends?) and then nobody thinks you're lying, because you just always sound like that. My version of the spell as used in the campaign doesn't obfuscate any existing information - it just makes it impossible to tell based on verbal and bodily cues. If the subject of the spell said "the sky is green" then they're still obviously proven wrong just by looking up, you just can't determine any sincerity from them (or a lack of it).
|
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 03:38
|
|
|
bewilderment posted:As the real horror you just cast that spell on yourself whenever you talk to certain people (say, perhaps... your sleeper family or friends?) and then nobody thinks you're lying, because you just always sound like that. So basically a demon tongue?
|
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 03:50
|
|
|
The Unlife Aquatic posted:So basically a demon tongue? bewilderment fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Dec 18, 2018 |
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 04:15
|
|
|
Of course if you get used to using that spell you might one day get some Paradox or something on you while using it, and that's when the irony overload begins.
|
|
#
?
Dec 17, 2018 08:22
|
|
|
Did the Brood officially stop being vampires at some point or were Edge and Christian just moving forward like nothing happened? Also re Changeling, how the ever loving hell do you get a group that can handle stories of abuse, trauma and survivorship at center stage all the time. I can't even get That Guy in d&d to not turn routine social situations into disasters.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2018 01:30
|
|
|
Nehru the Damaja posted:Did the Brood officially stop being vampires at some point or were Edge and Christian just moving forward like nothing happened? You don't let That Guy be in the group, first and foremost. The rest is in communication and boundary setting. You need to talk with your players about expectations wrt the story and their experiences and make sure these are the sorts of stories they wanna tell. Then you go through and ask about content they absolutely don't want to see, ever and things they'd prefer you don't go into detail about. These are things you should be doing before you start a game with any group.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2018 02:17
|
|
|
Also, it absolutely doesn't need to be center-stage all the time. Changeling is perfectly capable of being fairy swashbuckling adventures, Court political intrigue, or less deeply personal urban horror as needed, with the heavy stuff reserved for major turns in the campaign.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2018 02:22
|
|
|
Nehru the Damaja posted:Did the Brood officially stop being vampires at some point or were Edge and Christian just moving forward like nothing happened? Because Changeling isn't about playing up the abuse/trauma angle, it's about playing up the aftermath, the rebuilding of your existence or finding a new existence. You don't have to sit on top of the Trauma Button constantly.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2018 02:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 13:10 |
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:Also, it absolutely doesn't need to be center-stage all the time. Changeling is perfectly capable of being fairy swashbuckling adventures, Court political intrigue, or less deeply personal urban horror as needed, with the heavy stuff reserved for major turns in the campaign. Pretty much. Every campaign turns into dramedy given enough time.
|
|
#
?
Dec 18, 2018 03:17
|
|