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Johnny Aztec posted:Yep yep, So remember kids, listen to ikanreed's life lessons: Emotions are bad. Keep em bottled up. Changing your view after experience life events is WRONG. Never back down, never apologize. It was a lot more about trying to rush someone into marriage immediately after seeing them for literally the second time in your entire life (after you knocked them up the first time) as a way of getting out of being yelled at for being an absentee father but you do you buddy.
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The Question IRL posted:Resurrection restores you to Full Hit Points when it brings you back. So yeah, that was one Hel of a flamestrike. Ah shoot, missed that part.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:25
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It is a lesser-known theological fact that Loki super-charges his clerics' spells when, and only when, it would be very funny.
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Tenebrais posted:It is a lesser-known theological fact that Loki super-charges his clerics' spells when, and only when, it would be very funny. ...which makes perfect sense, actually.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:37
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sirtommygunn posted:It was a lot more about trying to rush someone into marriage immediately after seeing them for literally the second time in your entire life (after you knocked them up the first time) as a way of getting out of being yelled at for being an absentee father but you do you buddy. Well, you can't exactly both yell at somebody for being an absentee father and reject their attempt to be a very present father. It is a bit much to take at once, and it's part of Durkon being super-traditional, but in this pseudo-medieval fantasy era, marriage is more important. Especially if say, you were forced to carry your baby with you into dangerous places because of a lack of reliable babysitters.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:51
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, you can't exactly both yell at somebody for being an absentee father and reject their attempt to be a very present father. The gently caress you can't.
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Dec 18, 2018 19:58
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Who What Now posted:The gently caress you can't.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:01
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I mean, Durkon isn't exactly right, but his heart is in 90% the right place, so he's nowhere near the territory where "horrible death" is a reasonable response to his offer.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:03
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She was on a mission to kill Durkon Thundershield. I, for one, admire a mother who follows through.
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Who What Now posted:The gently caress you can't.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:08
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It was will you marry me not you will marry me.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Yep yep, So remember kids, listen to ikanreed's life lessons: Communicating your feelings is wrong. Emotions are bad. Keep em bottled up. Changing your view after experience life events is WRONG. Never back down, never apologize. 
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Who What Now posted:The gently caress you can't. Yeah. True. But it seems to me it would be awfully unfair. Forgiveness and working to atone for past mistakes are good things that should be encouraged, in my opinion. People these days seem awfully fond of zero tolerance, and not so fond of reconciliation and redemption.
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it’s something that needs to be a conversation and durkon was 100% monologing he’s a good dude and his heart is in the right place but the proposal especially was too much, too fast
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...what the gently caress are you guys going on about with Durkon being an absentee father, he didn't even KNOW he was a father. At most you can blame him for ghosting Hilgya, but she was kinda trying to murder her current husband and current friends so...can't blame him for not having the cleanest of breakups.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, you can't exactly both yell at somebody for being an absentee father and reject their attempt to be a very present father. There's a viable middle ground between "lets never see each other again, good luck with the kid" and "let's get married, immediately, and stay together forever for the sake of our child, even though you clearly hate me and I don't love you". Dias posted:...what the gently caress are you guys going on about with Durkon being an absentee father, he didn't even KNOW he was a father. At most you can blame him for ghosting Hilgya, but she was kinda trying to murder her current husband and current friends so...can't blame him for not having the cleanest of breakups. It doesn't have to be his fault that he's been an absentee father for him to be an absentee father. I know there's a lot of subtext in that term that makes him out to be a shithead when he clearly isn't, but it is what he is. sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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dmboogie posted:it’s something that needs to be a conversation and durkon was 100% monologing Right? He doesn’t really give her the opportunity to get a word in at all until after his proposal.
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Durkon, in his mind, went from accepting that Hilga had a right to divorce her husband and seeking happiness outside of her mandated marriage, to recognizing his responsibility to be there for his child in the way his own father had not. Then he discombobulated these concepts in his head to the point he felt this meant that he had to marry Hilga. That is dumb, but it's dumb in a manner very particular to Durkon's character. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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Regalingualius posted:Right? He doesnt really give her the opportunity to get a word in at all until after his proposal. To be fair he has stuck inside his vampirized corpse chewing that and a lot of other poo poo over for a while. Then he Durkon'd it up and got murdered again.
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Look guys, she had a flame strike, she was gonna use a flame strike. Especially since killing someone next to a high level cleric with a bunch of diamonds isn't really a big deal.
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Dec 18, 2018 21:25
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AnoHito posted:Look guys, she had a flame strike, she was gonna use a flame strike. As long as she's using True Res.
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AnoHito posted:Look guys, she had a flame strike, she was gonna use a flame strike. She may not have even intended to kill him, she probably just wanted to hurt him. But instead of a slap on the face it's a Flame Strike, because that's what she knows.
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Facebook Aunt posted:She may not have even intended to kill him, she probably just wanted to hurt him. But instead of a slap on the face it's a Flame Strike, because that's what she knows. I mean, that's 14/15d6, that's a hell of a slap.
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Dec 18, 2018 22:41
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Dias posted:As long as she's using True Res. She isn't. A while back they said that Redcloak might be the only cleric in the world strong enough to use True Res.
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fool_of_sound posted:She isn't. A while back they said that Redcloak might be the only cleric in the world strong enough to use True Res. IIRC Rich has specifically stated that True Res either does not exist in this world or there is no-one able to cast it.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Is this her yes or her no, I can't tell. Yes.
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Dec 18, 2018 22:59
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Durkon should've casted Bigsby's Room Reading
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Calaveron posted:Durkon should've casted Bigsby's Room Reading Sadly he can't cast it as it's a wizard spell.
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DoctorTristan posted:IIRC Rich has specifically stated that True Res either does not exist in this world or there is no-one able to cast it. The latter, if he feels it would be narratively important to use or eventually get TruRez then he will; but for the most part to make some kinds of death meaningful he's treating it as extremely rare that it might as well not exist.
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Calaveron posted:Durkon should've casted Bigsby's Room Reading Bigsby was a Wizard who specialised in spells that made Green Lantern type hands to do stuff. (Hit people. Sweep stuff under carpets. Push your adult children out of the house. Not wrestle other giant magical hands. That one was Hasture.) Rary was the Wizard who specializes in spells that read others thoughts. So he's probably have made a spell for reading a Room.
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Settle down nerds, Bigsby's the only one I know because he's the only one who I think has been mentioned in the strip
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It's not even the marriage proposal I was talking about. Start a monologue with "before you say anything" Then tell them how they feel about things. Then put your point of view and preapologize. It's granting no agency at all to her. At all.
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Calaveron posted:Settle down nerds, Bigsby's the only one I know because he's the only one who I think has been mentioned in the strip Technically, that was Bugsby - the wizard who resembles but is legally distinct from Bigby.
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I like how people are giving Durkon poo poo for being immolated, hehe
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Dias posted:I like how people are giving Durkon poo poo for being immolated, hehe a roast is a roast i don't fuss about the details
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ikanreed posted:It's not even the marriage proposal I was talking about. Ssssort of. Remember, he's been watching events while dead. She has not been subtle or ambiguous about how she feels about things during that time, she has made her stance on events PRETTY CLEAR. His apology a direct response to what he has witnessed while dead. He's still monologuing, and still reaching some wrong headed conclusions (like that marriage is a solution) but you're blowing it out of proportion lol.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Ssssort of. Remember, he's been watching events while dead. She has not been subtle or ambiguous about how she feels about things during that time, she has made her stance on events PRETTY CLEAR. His apology a direct response to what he has witnessed while dead. Nah, Durkon completely steamrolled the girl without giving her a chance to speak. You're the one normalizing really weird behavior. As I was reading it for the first time my eyes could glazed over from the cringe.
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Earnestly posted:Nah, Durkon completely steamrolled the girl without giving her a chance to speak. You're the one normalizing really weird behavior. As I was reading it for the first time my eyes could glazed over from the cringe. You should read the post again because you seem to have missed "he's still monologuing" and everything else in the second line. But he is responding to an articulated point of view. It's possible to think Durkon is doing a dumb thing here without thinking he's denying her agency. What he's doing is dumb for other reasons. Which I'm sure he's about to find out, and possibly even understand, after being ressurected a second time.
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Also he literally gets murdered for it.
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I like Hilgya because she's an objectively terrible person in almost every way but has juuuuust enough legitimate grievances to demand the reader extend some humanity to her. 
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