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Midig posted:loving hell /r/Skyrimmods, I though you were cool... 
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Skyrim Reddit posted:Rules 2) Debate conflicts maturely 
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Dec 17, 2018 22:59
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As much as I steer right the gently caress away from them sex mods are unironically a big part of the modding scene. But yeah people who like their characters getting raped
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Dec 19, 2018 04:15
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Sky Shadowing posted:As much as I steer right the gently caress away from them sex mods are unironically a big part of the modding scene. They're an important part too, because they probably spend more time than anyone on messing around with animations and scripting so they know a lot. Plus Better Bodies for Morrowind absolutely wouldn't exist without them. I just saw that Sloff is still uploading stuff to the Nexus as recent as November.
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Dec 19, 2018 19:25
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Skwirl has it correct. All the custom animation work, models, indoor lighting overhauls, and backward engineering of the engine for Bethesda games has mostly been done by people trying to create their ideal 3D fantasy porn. Seems to be true for most rpg's - the major innovation comes about from guys getting boners. I'm not at all sure what this says about humanity, but it's predictable enough on the internets. The first mod generally made for ANY game is a nude mod. Well, the Mario Odyssey games may be excepted...
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Dec 20, 2018 02:04
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Midig posted:loving hell /r/Skyrimmods, I though you were cool... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOqb_UzJSUQ
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Dec 20, 2018 03:19
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All this poo poo, and we can't get pro wrasslin' mod. Why can't I get two giants in a Hell in a Cell match? 
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Dec 20, 2018 03:39
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:Skwirl has it correct. Didn't the really good physics mod for Skyrim come from a weird Asian dude wanting to make big Viking tiddies jiggle?
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Dec 20, 2018 03:41
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Randaconda posted:Didn't the really good physics mod for Skyrim come from a weird Asian dude wanting to make big Viking tiddies jiggle? There's actually too many competing standards in the "BBP" physics department (which seems to alternately stand for "bouncing breast physics", "boob and but physics", or various combinations thereof), for me to accurately answer that. The westerners have won the war as far as sex scene animation tools, though. Though the apps never SAY they're supposed to be used for that... but who is going to install 10 different specific supporting overhauls, and fine tune them for hours, just to slightly change the angle you sheathe your sword at? I mean, they ARE animating sword sheathing, just in a few NSFW way. If you really want full "immersion" though, you can also install a Todd Howard companion and tell Bethesda what you really think of their product line.
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Dec 20, 2018 04:46
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:There's actually too many competing standards in the "BBP" physics department (which seems to alternately stand for "bouncing breast physics", "boob and but physics", or various combinations thereof), for me to accurately answer that. The one good thing to come of all that poo poo is the Deadly Mutilation mod, which I wish I could get working on Skyrim VR since it actually did use a rudimentary hit detection system for the dismemberment, and I want to run around Skyrim reenacting the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, dammit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQfPzoxRrA Fuzz fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 06:11
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Fuzz posted:The one good thing to come of all that poo poo is the Deadly Mutilation mod, which I wish I could get working on Skyrim VR since it actually did use a rudimentary hit detection system for the dismemberment, and I want to run around Skyrim reenacting the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, dammit. That mod doesn't even work in "normal" Special Edition, sadly. There were some porting attempts that failed apparently. ... I don't want to even think about how dismemberment mechanics came out of Skyrim porn, though. *shudder*
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Dec 20, 2018 08:33
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I like that "brutally dismember humanoid enemies in fountain of gore" is somehow supposed to be less disturbing and more acceptable than "make boobs jiggle".
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Dec 20, 2018 12:29
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I notice the OP hasn't been updated in over a year now. Is there a good starting database to work off of, especially with the special edition being more robust than it was prior?
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Dec 20, 2018 15:43
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The two mods you really need are TK Dodge and Ultimate Combat, both by tktk1.
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Dec 20, 2018 16:09
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Lt. Lizard posted:I like that "brutally dismember humanoid enemies in fountain of gore" is somehow supposed to be less disturbing and more acceptable than "make boobs jiggle". That's pretty consistent with the rest of American media. There's an episode of Hannibal with a naked corpse and the network said you could see too much buttcrack so they digitally added more blood. There's another episode where you see a guy cut off and eat pieces of his own face, but no, can't show butt crack, we'll get angry letters if someone's kid happens to see that.
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Dec 20, 2018 16:26
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:That mod doesn't even work in "normal" Special Edition, sadly. There were some porting attempts that failed apparently. It did work, the author just pulled it off the Nexus due to some dumb drama bullshit or something or other. In my hunt for a saved copy on the DARK WEB (aka using Google) there was some story about how someone asked him to allow chopping off penises from Schlongs of Skyrim (by the way, that's also a thing, which I learned from said search  ) and the author lost his poo poo or something.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:27
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Fuzz posted:It did work, the author just pulled it off the Nexus due to some dumb drama bullshit or something or other. In my hunt for a saved copy on the DARK WEB (aka using Google) there was some story about how someone asked him to allow chopping off penises from Schlongs of Skyrim (by the way, that's also a thing, which I learned from said search That seems one of the rare cases where the modder's reaction is completely justified.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:41
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Raygereio posted:That seems one of the rare cases where the modder's reaction is completely justified. Yeah, I thought that too but apparently he went off on some crazy anti-feminist rant about how the penis is sacred or something. It was Zardoz level poo poo. 
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Dec 20, 2018 21:45
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Haha holy poo poo. The best and worst community at the same time.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:51
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Is there a Zardoz outfit mod? Asking for a friend.
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Dec 21, 2018 00:27
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Fuzz posted:Yeah, I thought that too but apparently he went off on some crazy anti-feminist rant about how the penis is sacred or something. It was Zardoz level poo poo. That's the opposite of Zardoz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOROvO2fxTc
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Dec 21, 2018 01:39
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Lt. Lizard posted:I like that "brutally dismember humanoid enemies in fountain of gore" is somehow supposed to be less disturbing and more acceptable than "make boobs jiggle". I just can't figure out how we got FROM everyday animated genitals to animated disembowelments. But hey, this is the internet, and LL has entire demographic groups just dedicated to fetishes for being birthed by giant pregnant women and/or being eaten alive by them, sometimes vaginally. It's a perfect circle, really: vestigial absorption via birth canal, entrapment/bondage INSIDE the womb, and being birthed again. Miracle of life? I sometimes sit and wonder about HOW these really bizarre fetishes come about, as they're far more mysterious than "I like to look at lady feet HURR HURR", which at least seems like it has a traceable origin in early sexual experiences. There is a possible PhD grant in the making for this, but I'm not sure who would want to read it.
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Dec 21, 2018 04:03
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The Bee posted:I notice the OP hasn't been updated in over a year now. Is there a good starting database to work off of, especially with the special edition being more robust than it was prior? There are a dozen or so mod lists already. They are loving enormous, and not written for people without several weeks to kill and spare razor blades on hand. What the scene lacks is a shorter, manageable list that doesn't require having to dick around with xEdit hackery, scripts and DLL hook injections, and other custom file munging to get your mod list stable. Ironically I believe it really needs the sort of non-overlapping graphic and isolated content overhaul mods you see the console users (gasp) installing. But the rabbit hole for mod complexity really starts almost as soon as you decide you want the bigger boobs, because it requires some rather buggy/unpredictable combination of custom skeletons and physics replacers. No two people ever want the same setup, and the mod authors usually refuse to cooperate with each other, so end users are often eternally in search of the "perfect custom made mod list" and many of them never actually play the Actual loving Game. you see them on the modder Discord all the time, asking "I have 500 mods, how to I merge them down to the 255 max limit?"
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If lovers lab were just vague sex mods I doubt they'd get that much attention. Instead it's always the weirdest, grossest, and rapiest poo poo they can possible come up with. Also while I'm not gonna be extolling the virtues of Skyrim's texture and model design, it's a pretty big upgrade from the horrifying real dolls the modding scene ends up being filled with. That said I'm pretty sure that yeah, they are in fact the ones responsible for figuring out how to gently caress with Skyrim's models and physics engine together (if I remember it's not actually possible in the creation engine, so you actually need a third party program to edit poo poo), so I guess you take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have the facts of Bethesda modding.
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Dec 21, 2018 06:34
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Skwirl posted:That's the opposite of Zardoz Oh, of course but just the language in relation to dongs is similar.
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Dec 21, 2018 12:40
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This is my first playthrough using Inigo and man, he is so well done. If only bethesda had put in this much effort to make the vanilla followers interesting and dynamic, even if they had only done a few. I tried Sofia previously and she was tedious and irritating. I'm not even opposed to sexual humor, but goddamn her 'jokes' had such terrible setups and she would constantly talk over dialogue.
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graynull posted:This is my first playthrough using Inigo and man, he is so well done. If only bethesda had put in this much effort to make the vanilla followers interesting and dynamic, even if they had only done a few. I tried Sofia previously and she was tedious and irritating. I'm not even opposed to sexual humor, but goddamn her 'jokes' had such terrible setups and she would constantly talk over dialogue. That and her accent is so forced and painful to listen to.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:45
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Fuzz posted:That and her accent is so forced and painful to listen to. Though the Dutch accent in English is indeed painful to listen to.
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Dec 22, 2018 11:25
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:There are a dozen or so mod lists already. They are loving enormous, and not written for people without several weeks to kill and spare razor blades on hand. Well, thankfully I don't have interest in big boob overcomplexity, so I can dodge that bullet. How does the OP list hold up? I know I've used it as my rec in the past, but with it being so far out I have no idea if the mods in the list have been outdone by now or not.
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Dec 22, 2018 16:26
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Speaking as one of the contributors to the OP, I really don't think it's been outdone. The only thing that's really changed is that a lot of mods have -- loving finally -- been ported to SE. What has changed is that there are probably new mods that are also good (while not replacing older good mods.) You're really not gonna install Immerisive Armors, Apocalypse, or SPERG and then wish you hadn't.
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For what it's worth, my chortling over the shade throwing in the OP was what finally convinced me to give Lowtax and team $10 after all these years of random/occasional lurking on gaming threads here. It was the first "honest" modding guide I'd seen. Still going to be paying the forum avatar troll tax for a while though, most likely. 10 BUCKS IS 10 BUCKS
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:For what it's worth, my chortling over the shade throwing in the OP was what finally convinced me to give Lowtax and team $10 after all these years of random/occasional lurking on gaming threads here. It's only five bucks to change your own avatar 
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Dec 23, 2018 12:32
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As one of the co-authors of the OP, it's a lot easier to write a modding guide when you're not restricted by the modding communities incredibly stifling social mores.
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Agents are GO! posted:As one of the co-authors of the OP, it's a lot easier to write a modding guide when you're not restricted by the modding communities incredibly stifling social mores. I found it less about social mores and more about dealing with some rather fragile egos, to put it mildly. While there are a few really sweet and helpful people in the community, the loud histrionic drama queens and the "I am never wrong about anything and all my products are superior" arrogant programmers tend to drive people away. Didn't help at all that both Bethesda and Steam hosed with the scene several times by attempting to monetize mods, causing an enormous amount of rage quitting since there were so many shared assets, but suddenly money was on the table, and everyone was butthurt and waving pitchforks (much of it justifiable). On their side of the fence, mod authors have to deal with an incessant stream of whiny users who constantly want small changes made to suit their particular needs, ask the same questions over and over that are already up on your FAQ, tell you your mod sucks and you suck for giving them bad free labor, and in general suck away most of your free time, leading to occasional reported divorces and nervous breakdowns, along with exacerbating depression. So it's not really a wonder why so many of the creators run away screaming never to return, and the ones left are very bitter and jaded.
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:I found it less about social mores and more about dealing with some rather fragile egos, to put it mildly. While there are a few really sweet and helpful people in the community, the loud histrionic drama queens and the "I am never wrong about anything and all my products are superior" arrogant programmers tend to drive people away. That's actually exactly what I meant about the Social Mores of the modding community. It's basically a toxic mix of the Geek Social Fallacies, the Nexus desire to exploit mod makers for profit, and mental illness. The absolute inability of most modders to give or receive constructive criticism unless couched in the softest terms possible is horrible, and a blight on modding. poo poo, we're talking about the site that considered review scores trolling and had meltdowns saying that modders should be able to control discussions about their mods on other websites. Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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DuchessOfKvetch posted:Didn't help at all that both Bethesda and Steam hosed with the scene several times by attempting to monetize mods, causing an enormous amount of rage quitting since there were so many shared assets, but suddenly money was on the table, and everyone was butthurt and waving pitchforks (much of it justifiable). It put a spotlight on it, but people building an identity around modding (as opposed to it just being something you do for fun) and all the ego, copyright and other drama that goes with it has been a thing for far longer. For example Wrye wrote his parlor vs cathedral essay back in 2005. Raygereio fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Agents are GO! posted:That's actually exactly what I meant about the Social Mores of the modding community. It's basically a toxic mix of the Geek Social Fallacies, the Nexus desire to exploit mod makers for profit, and mental illness. The absolute inability of most modders to give or receive constructive criticism unless couched in the softest terms possible is horrible, and a blight on modding. I do a lot of Stellaris modding now and as an adult human who doesn't need to be coddled in all feedback, the obsequious cringing people feel compelled to adopt to tell me things about my work makes me feel queasy and really leaves me anxious that my poo poo sucks but no one is bold enough to say so. It's just bad overall, especially if you care about making something good.
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Agents are GO! posted:Speaking as one of the contributors to the OP, I really don't think it's been outdone. The only thing that's really changed is that a lot of mods have -- loving finally -- been ported to SE. What has changed is that there are probably new mods that are also good (while not replacing older good mods.) That makes sense. Thank you! Do you have any recs that aren't on the list, or is it really just go out and explore?
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I honestly haven't played lately. Explore, and let us know what you find! 
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GunnerJ posted:I do a lot of Stellaris modding now and as an adult human who doesn't need to be coddled in all feedback, the obsequious cringing people feel compelled to adopt to tell me things about my work makes me feel queasy and really leaves me anxious that my poo poo sucks but no one is bold enough to say so. There's a flash fiction thread in my sub that has been running for 6 years and produced 7 million words of fiction, and the one core bedrock rule is that you never respond to critique, no matter how much you want to. It's amazing.
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