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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Unless that thing is a giant rear end railgun what would be the point of that? And that would probably be classified as a WMD. I would assume such a weapon would be an ASAT but my point is that it's not illegal to put weapons in space. Only WMDs. Yes it's pedantic but the distinction is real.
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so apparently the senate dems are begging trump to take a few billion for fence building, so we should expect the cave in to hit soon
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Dec 19, 2018 05:04
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CNN kicks a guy off the air for just saying there should be two states, one from river to sea, a week before Tucker Carlson says racist poo poo yet again and somehow Nate Silver thinks that the left will have to worry about being boycotted by advertisers too. You can't get boycotted from TV if you can't even get on TV ever to begin with. Even popular, boring liberal ideas can't get airtime, let alone the extreme ones.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:09
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https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1075235978854449152?s=19 https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1075236383973888005?s=19 Idiots
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Dec 19, 2018 05:12
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Trump was literally asked what the wall would be made out of on the campaign trail and he unequivocally said it would be made of concrete and rebar. Everyone remembers this because it was a cutesy widdle baby fascist who asked him in one of the most blatant media stunt moments of her entire campaign.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:20
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I'm a bit concerned about the sourcing on that letter.
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sexpig by night posted:so apparently the senate dems are begging trump to take a few billion for fence building, so we should expect the cave in to hit soon Thanks, internet guy
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Dec 19, 2018 05:26
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Has there ever been any real discussion of what this wall would be in reality? Like is this supposed to be a huge rear end 20 foot high wall that spans the entire length of the border? Or is it just sections of the border and remote areas would remain relatively open? This speaks to my ignorance on the border, but is there currently fencing that runs the entire length or are there open areas? My impression was there are remote areas that are relatively unguarded cause it would be ridiculously expensive to patrol and maintain a thousands of miles long contiguous wall. If Trump were smart he would get some chunk of funding allocated to his dumb wall project. He builds up an impressive looking section of it, holds a grand ceremony declaring The Wall complete and let's himself and his supporters pretend they won.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:27
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Popete posted:If Trump were smart lol
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Popete posted:Has there ever been any real discussion of what this wall would be in reality? Like is this supposed to be a huge rear end 20 foot high wall that spans the entire length of the border? Or is it just sections of the border and remote areas would remain relatively open? The current fencing has huge gaps, hundreds of miles long. He's sorta doing that, he keeps saying the wall is partially built and... It isn't
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It hasn't been thought out properly because the people that want the Wall are idiots that can't properly think things out.
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Morbus posted:lol Exactly It just seems like such an easy win for him. He builds a small section of 20 foot impressive looking concrete/metal/death trap looking wall. Goes to a ribbon cutting ceremony, maybe shoots some tear gas into Mexico and then never brings it up again except to declare the border secure. It's an easy cop-out for what was always an insane and unrealistic campaign promise.
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Popete posted:
Posting from 2040: Turns out Trump lost in 2020 because people wanted the wall and he couldn't deliver. we deserve ourselves
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Popete posted:Has there ever been any real discussion of what this wall would be in reality? Like is this supposed to be a huge rear end 20 foot high wall that spans the entire length of the border? Or is it just sections of the border and remote areas would remain relatively open? Trump wanted Spain to build a wall across the Sahara
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Popete posted:Has there ever been any real discussion of what this wall would be in reality? Like is this supposed to be a huge rear end 20 foot high wall that spans the entire length of the border? Or is it just sections of the border and remote areas would remain relatively open? current fencing has large gaps, but that's quite intended. the overwhelming majority of illegal border crossings occur near population centers on or close to the border, because traveling in the desert is highly dangerous and the longer the distance you need to travel, the more supplies you need to pack, etc. then there's also natural barriers, such as hills and/or thick shrubbery, that make certain areas basically impossible to traverse anyway. so those areas don't have fencing. trump of course doesn't understand any of this because he has never, ever stepped foot outside his luxurious urban lifestyle. golfing is as much "nature" as he gets, basically. therefore, he wants a wall covering literally the entire 2000 miles.
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Popete posted:Exactly And then 9 months later CNN airs their Sunday evening special “Trump’s wall: where is it now?” And anyone with a tv that lands on it immediately changes the channel.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:40
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Have you ever taken a close look at Donald's signature? After what is clearly the T, it appears to go "rumnph"
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So does anyone have a good read on why this was able to pass in such overwhelming bipartisan fashion? Because I sure as hell would like to replicate that success for other legislation. https://twitter.com/huffpost/status/1075211792266100736?s=21
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Dec 19, 2018 05:46
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theblackw0lf posted:So does anyone have a good read on why this was able to pass in such overwhelming bipartisan fashion? Trump, pushed by Kushner, supported a thing that usually mostly Democrats like
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theflyingorc posted:Trump, pushed by Kushner, supported a thing that usually mostly Democrats like Also, a lot of white people are getting jailed by the opiod epidemic
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Dec 19, 2018 05:51
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How's this bill playing with the "tough on crime" constituency?
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I don't know if there's a website that is more consistently stupid in the takes it publishes than the Federalist.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Also, a lot of white people are getting jailed by the opiod epidemic As good as reform is yeaaaaah it’s pretty much white people are suddenly on the receiving end of our hosed up war on drugs, tough on crime poo poo typically reserved for people who fail the paper bag test and egads! Suddenly it’s cruel and must change!
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i am harry posted:Have you ever taken a close look at Donald's signature? After what is clearly the T, it appears to go "rumnph" It's easier than remembering how to spell your name.
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Popete posted:Has there ever been any real discussion of what this wall would be in reality? Like is this supposed to be a huge rear end 20 foot high wall that spans the entire length of the border? Or is it just sections of the border and remote areas would remain relatively open? It varies depending on the speaker, but the whole "artistic steel you can see through" refers to a format that's basically a bunch of segments, each of which consists of a series of tall metal slats. The section seen in this LA Times story is probably roughly illustrative. https://www.latimes.com/local/la-na-ff-c1-border-music-20140130-dto-htmlstory.html My extremely limited understanding is that something about like this is what has been settled on as relatively effective for the demands involved with a border fence- segmented, one-size-fits-all, durable, easy to replace individual parts hard to scale, hard to dig under, and you can see through it so you know what's on the other side. Others have covered the scope question: it's going to be a huge contractor boondoggle, and it makes little sense to erect something like this in a lot of areas, even if the idea of a border fence were generally sound. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Dec 19, 2018 |
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Popete posted:Exactly The thing is, like most things fascist, the wall is only useful insofar as it is an impossible goal with no practical ultimate realization. You're not supposed to ever finish it, and the whole point is that you can keep bringing it up again and again, while blaming its non-existance or insufficiency on your political enemies. Chuds riled up about immigration? "We need a wall". Got funding to build an impressive section and/or a fence? "Wall's not big enough! Blame Democrats!" They don't ever want that easy win or mission accomplished moment because a problem they can blame on someone else is better than a fake "win" they can claim for themselves. If you declare the border secure and never bring it up again, what do you tell your idiot racist base 4 months later when, surprise surprise, they still hate brown people? It's just like self help books, or MLM, or goofball diets, or doomsday prophecies, or any other stupid thing sold to idiots as a solution to their problems. The endless struggle and drama and doubling and tripling down over and over again is the whole point (along with the shitload of money you can grift along the way). And on some level, trump knows this. It's just that he's such a fundamentally poo poo negotiator and such a constitutionally weak person that he can't bumble his way through this tried and true exercise in propaganda and salesmanship without looking like an idiot fuckup coward sucker. But then again, that doesn't really matter, because his base will forgive that as long as they are given the most tenuous thread of a narrative to hold on to where Big Daddy Trump is in fact not owned and/or a corncob.
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Discendo Vox posted:It varies depending on the speaker, but the whole "artistic steel you can see through" refers to a format that's basically a bunch of segments, each of which consists of a series of tall metal slats. The section seen in this LA Times story is probably roughly illustrative. Trump thinks that the slats are so you can peek through and watch out for devious Mexicans, though I wish that was a joke, he's said that out loud numerous times.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't know if there's a website that is more consistently stupid in the takes it publishes than the Federalist. If it helps, I think the author's even a pseudonym. Four articles (all cultural war BS), no online presence I could find. I kind of like the idea that the Federalist will still publish takes so dumb that it has to Alan Smithee them.
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theflyingorc posted:Trump thinks that the slats are so you can peek through and watch out for devious Mexicans, though It's worse than that - he's concerned that so many "bags of drugs" are going to be thrown over the wall that it has to be transparent so no one gets hurt by all the falling drugs.
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According to Trump, you have to be able to see through it otherwise the drug dealers will hit you with their catapults.
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theflyingorc posted:Trump thinks that the slats are so you can peek through and watch out for devious Mexicans, though So we should spend billions on something that can be circumvented with a blow torch then.
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CubanMissile posted:So we should spend billions on something that can be circumvented with a blow torch then. I mean lets be honest the average MAGA type wants the wall to basically be like the northern border from Full Metal Alchemist.
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deoju posted:According to Trump, you have to be able to see through it otherwise the drug dealers will hit you with their catapults. It's darkly amusing how that's one of the things that has stuck in Trump's mush brain, he's obsessed with the wall being transparent.
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean lets be honest the average MAGA type wants the wall to basically be like the northern border from Full Metal Alchemist. Oh yeah, I'm sure they want murder holes and cauldrons of boiling oil too. It just still blows my mind that they think they'll actually get it. Though really nothing should surprise me after they honestly expected Mexico to pay for it because Trump said so.
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean lets be honest the average MAGA type wants the wall to basically be like the northern border from Full Metal Alchemist. maybe the rest of the world should wall off Merica and transmute all the terrible people into one big philo stone and use that to do stuff.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:It's worse than that - he's concerned that so many "bags of drugs" are going to be thrown over the wall that it has to be transparent so no one gets hurt by all the falling drugs. And now they can stick drugs through the slats, infinitely easier and more cost-effective than the catapults. Good job, President Goodbrain.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't know if there's a website that is more consistently stupid in the takes it publishes than the Federalist. Their "The mass church shooting victims were lucky because now they get to go the heaven faster" article was so dumb I thought it was an Onion article first glance.
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bobjr posted:Their "The mass church shooting victims were lucky because now they get to go the heaven faster" article was so dumb I thought it was an Onion article first glance. Link? I totally believe this exists, but i need to see it.
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One freeper wanted a mountain range of used tires placed along the border. That led to my favorite d&d title ever... USPOL: A Song of ICE and Tire. Pretty sure it was Amergin who came up with that.
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