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Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

so, y'all know how I was talking about the synthwave act Magic Sword getting latched onto by QAnon fuckers?

i went to a show of theirs last week and it was uh

Not Good

there were a lot of loving Nazis in the crowd, like holy god loving drat it is on my shortlist for most uncomfortable and terrifying experiences

and the band was way off their game and at least one member was drunk off his rear end, for frankly understandable reasons, so i couldn't even really get into that part

Wait what?

I'm big into synthwave and enjoyed their self titled album but I must have missed the post how they got wrapped up in this pure insanely.

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Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Arlington is a secret underground military base though. When Judgement Day comes a lot of pissed off Union soldiers are going to rise up out of Robert E. Lee's lawn and demand payback from a Confederate corrupted government. :angel:

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
Nazis have been infiltrating electronic music recently like they did with Punk and Metal, and it loving sucks.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Tormented posted:

Wait what?

I'm big into synthwave and enjoyed their self titled album but I must have missed the post how they got wrapped up in this pure insanely.

The new Q is into music and posted a link to one of their tunes with some sketchy justification about mission specialists listening to it as a warm up on their way to blackbag Hillary or something.

Re: walnuts, didn't all that spring from Podesta asking someone about the pizza at the club I can't remember the name of? Of course, with the original Qanons being terminally online channers that got turned into the old 'cheese pizza = cp = child porn' thing and then got wild from there as they went through and dug out every reference to food in the email dump to try and crack the secret code.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



zoux posted:

When I was a lad, my evangelical, post-tribulationist cousin told me in vivid detail about the depredations the stormtroopers of The Antichrist would visit upon innocent Christians like myself, including being beheaded en masse by guillotine. Though, unlike revolutionary France, the executed will be lying face up so they can see the blade. (of course none of this is in the Bible so it was made up whole cloth by whoever told her this) That was probably 30 years ago and I still remember it vividly. The shocking and sensational details are included because they stick.

I remember when my mother was going through a Baptist phase, I used to get Chick tracks to read because I thought they were ridiculous (they thought I was handing them out like a good Christian missionary; lol no).

One of them was about revelations and had the guillotines you described, but they were on motorcycles driven by Judge Dredd antichrist police.

Jack Chick could have made a fortune animating stuff for warhammer 40k; man knew his grimdark.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

As long as synthwave guys don't make nazi poo poo and instead keep to wholesome stuff like full throated support of 80's style ritual Satanism, They've got me as a fan

Electric Sugar
May 24, 2004

over in the burnt yellow tent by the frozen tractor

darkwasthenight posted:

The new Q is into music and posted a link to one of their tunes with some sketchy justification about mission specialists listening to it as a warm up on their way to blackbag Hillary or something.

Re: walnuts, didn't all that spring from Podesta asking someone about the pizza at the club I can't remember the name of? Of course, with the original Qanons being terminally online channers that got turned into the old 'cheese pizza = cp = child porn' thing and then got wild from there as they went through and dug out every reference to food in the email dump to try and crack the secret code.

The walnut thing was because Podesta was expressing interest in a pasta with walnut sauce. Apparently it's a thing made of finely crushed walnuts, milk, parmesan, etc.

ShortStack
Jan 16, 2006

tinystax
I literally just learned about magic sword like 3 days ago and I really like them so gently caress q

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Fuuuck it's just hit me that adrenochrome is almost exactly the "fear soup" from that one episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark

Its Garmonbozia from Twin Peak's Red Lounge.

Where was Hillary the night Laura Palmer died?

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Ferrovanadium posted:

Wait wait wait hold on they're serious about the adrenochrome thing? oh my god

I do stand up comedy for fun and lately at the open mics I've been seeing a lot of dudes under 25 who absolutely believe this

also a couple of pepe dorks who get excited when I recognize their dogwhistles but wither immediately when challenged irl

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Q is edging right up to the Deep Underground Military Bases poo poo and I can't wait for the 150-tweet Praying Medic thread about how Dulce Base is the last line of defense against the Deep State Grays and their allies within the depths of the hollow earth.

D.U.M.B's are one of my favourite conspiracy arcs. Probably because it's most like the X-Files. I hope they can be woven as seamlessly into Qanon as Antarctica and flat earth. By which I mean, just randomly tacked on somewhere.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

zoux posted:

As long as synthwave guys don't make nazi poo poo and instead keep to wholesome stuff like full throated support of 80's style ritual Satanism, They've got me as a fan

In case you haven't heard Gost's latest, Possessor, it's goddamned outstanding.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

darkwasthenight posted:

The new Q is into music and posted a link to one of their tunes with some sketchy justification about mission specialists listening to it as a warm up on their way to blackbag Hillary or something.

They’ll never let any obvious tell get to them. Sure, tier one special forces operators listen to retro throwback music for online dweebs :allears:

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Neo_Crimson posted:

Nazis have been infiltrating electronic music recently like they did with Punk and Metal, and it loving sucks.

Synth Nazis Must Die

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Peanut Butler posted:

I do stand up comedy for fun and lately at the open mics I've been seeing a lot of dudes under 25 who absolutely believe this

also a couple of pepe dorks who get excited when I recognize their dogwhistles but wither immediately when challenged irl

What? You can't just mention pedophile conspiracy stand up and not elaborate.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

They've got it backwards. The secret tunnel is shipping the remains of American soldiers out to the Ping Pong place, where it can be shipped to Mexico so the ISIS Cartel super-soldiers can devour their bodies and get their Americanness!

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

I can't believe that Hillary buried all these children with are troops and let them steal valor.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

chitoryu12 posted:

Yeah, anything that's a reference to pizza or sauce is almost definitely a Pizzagate thing. I think "walnut" is because they say the pineal gland resembles one and that's where they claim adrenachrome is harvested from.

Dr Christmas posted:

Nah, it was the plain old adrenal gland, which kind of actually does look like one. I distinctly remember a photo captioned, "For scientists, this is an adrenal gland. For pedophiles, it is a walnut to sauce."

Imagining "it is a walnut to sauce" being said in a deeply portentous tone is funny to me.

That poo poo is hilarious. Those emails are as are pedestrian as possible, but because Q's are so loving stupid and isolated, they look sinisters.

Also I realized why I thought that poo poo was hilarious to me, has anyone else seen From Beyond?

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
Where did this tunnel stuff even come from? The tunnel maintenance bit makes me think they're reading something about the DC metro and getting confused about public transportation.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Where did this tunnel stuff even come from? The tunnel maintenance bit makes me think they're reading something about the DC metro and getting confused about public transportation.

They are terrified of public transport.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The Tunnel is a powerful symbol. It's the physical manifestation of the conspiracy itself - dark, hidden, underground; it connects seemingly isolated institutions and binds them into a whole. Who knows how many offshoots it has and where they lead?

I had a roommate in college who, in between trying to get his dog high, would tell me about the secret Freemason tunnels running underneath Warrensburg, Missouri.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Where did this tunnel stuff even come from?

How else do you get to underground hell chambers?

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Fuuuck it's just hit me that adrenochrome is almost exactly the "fear soup" from that one episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark

This reminds me, Fear the Walking Dead had a plotline about one of the protagonists getting addicted to eating adrenal glands. It was portrayed as the greatest high, magic hallucinogens and stimulant. Should have aired somewhere around 2016, I think?

I know it sounds silly that this could have something to do with Pizzagate, but IRC the Satanic panic started due to Dungeons & Dragons which is just as dumb.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
The Satanic Panic started because of a shrink who wanted to be famous.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

predicto posted:

Synth Nazis Must Die

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Pope Guilty posted:

The Satanic Panic started because of a shrink who wanted to be famous.

Uh this is creepy

quote:

Michelle Remembers is a 1980 book co-written by Canadian psychiatrist Lawrence Pazder and his psychiatric patient (and eventual wife) Michelle Smith.
:stare:

The D&D aspect of Satanaic Panic came from a poor kid who had a lot of problems, including being gay in the 70s, tried to kill himself in the steam tunnels under his college. He told the private detective his parents hired to find him to tell them that he didn't try to kill himself because he was gay, but because D&D made him do it!

With its magic, and spells and levitation!

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

twistedmentat posted:

Uh this is creepy

:stare:



Ugh Canadians are the worst

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/4chan/status/1075181351664525313

How does this fit in?

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

If I lie about not loving my cats, will 4chan stay down longer? Because I hate these furry beasts.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

twistedmentat posted:

Uh this is creepy

:stare:

Whoah, extraordinary claims of extraordinary child abuse obfuscating the grotesque desires and psychological foibles of the accuser, haven’t seen this before. The podcast I Don’t Even Own a TV does a great breakdown of this one and it’s loving mind boggling that something so stupid sold millions of copies and was canon truth among many people in authority at the time.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011



Either HN is (jokingly?) demanding the return of Caturday and other beloved 4chan traditions, or the Qultists and nazis have broken the only law ever held sacred by 4chan.

Are home appliances back in fashion? If so, I sincerely hope 4chan is dead for good.

Big Hubris fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Dec 20, 2018

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Whoah, extraordinary claims of extraordinary child abuse obfuscating the grotesque desires and psychological foibles of the accuser, haven’t seen this before. The podcast I Don’t Even Own a TV does a great breakdown of this one and it’s loving mind boggling that something so stupid sold millions of copies and was canon truth among many people in authority at the time.

As Fred Clark explains, a lot of people would really like to believe it. (part 2)

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Q is edging right up to the Deep Underground Military Bases poo poo and I can't wait for the 150-tweet Praying Medic thread about how Dulce Base is the last line of defense against the Deep State Grays and their allies within the depths of the hollow earth.

I can't wait until they start digging up graves at Arlington to show patriotic concern.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

twistedmentat posted:

That poo poo is hilarious. Those emails are as are pedestrian as possible, but because Q's are so loving stupid and isolated, they look sinisters.

I visited Comet Ping Pong twice this year to see what all the hubbub was about. You know why it had weird murals? It’s a hipster pizza place in an LGBT neighborhood. The bartender was a guy in short shorts with a backwards baseball cap.

It’s literally people going into a gay part of town and freaking out that everything unusual must be a hidden sign.

For the record, the food is actually pretty good and I recommend giving them your business if you’re in the area.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
I like these posts. Good old Slacktivist.

It's important to note that with Q specifically and current conspiracy culture more generally, it's not just that a lot of these people don't really believe the rumours they're spreading. It's also that they can't conceive of someone who genuinely would.

This is why the MAGAbomber had to be a false flag attack. If you genuinely believe that someone is torturing and murdering thousands of children per year, trying to kill them with a mail bomb is honestly a completely rational and proportionate response. But the reaction from the Q crew isn't "yeah I see why he did that," it's "nobody could POSSIBLY have tried to do that."

Local Weather
Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome

Excellent read, thanks for linking this.

So much of what's happening now reminds me of the Satanic Panic except it seems a lot worse, like the true believers aren't just going to boycott Ozzy concerts or listen to Led Zeppelin records backwards, they're going to end up shooting some people or blowing them up and feel good about the whole thing.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

It's important to note that with Q specifically and current conspiracy culture more generally, it's not just that a lot of these people don't really believe the rumours they're spreading. It's also that they can't conceive of someone who genuinely would.

This is why the MAGAbomber had to be a false flag attack. If you genuinely believe that someone is torturing and murdering thousands of children per year, trying to kill them with a mail bomb is honestly a completely rational and proportionate response. But the reaction from the Q crew isn't "yeah I see why he did that," it's "nobody could POSSIBLY have tried to do that."

That is lots of stuff, like I think lots of people believe in hell and base some actions on that, but like, almost no one acts like hell is real real. Like even pretty extreme christians aren't REALLY acting like you'd act if hell was an actual place.

I think people in general have different sets of "real" where some things are real and you are supposed to actually believe in them, but some things are real and you are supposed to act on them in practical terms. Like, it doesn't make any sense, but it's not just this, it seems like a thing humans do in general.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

This explains quite a lot. I guess it could be summed up like: in the absence of an 'acceptable' reality people will just invent one.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

This part is really good:


A few years ago there was a particularly horrifying kitten-burning incident involving a barbecue grill and, astonishingly, a video camera. That sordid episode took place far from the place where I work, yet the paper’s editorial board nonetheless felt compelled to editorialize on the subject. They were, happily, against it. Unambiguously so. It’s one of the very few instances I recall when that timidly Broderian bunch took an unambiguous stance without their habitual on-the-other-hand qualifications.

I agreed with that stance, of course. Who doesn’t? But despite agreeing with the side they took, I couldn’t help but be amused by the editorial’s inordinately proud pose of courageous truth-telling. The lowest common denominator of minimal morality was being held up as though it were a prophetic example of speaking truth to power.

That same posturing resurfaced in a big way earlier this year when the kitten-burners struck again, much closer to home. A group of disturbed and disturbing children doused a kitten with lighter fluid and set it on fire just a few miles from the paper’s offices.

The paper covered the story, of course, and our readers ate it up.

People loved that story. It became one of the most-read and most-e-mailed stories on our Web site. Online readers left dozens of comments and we got letters to the editor on the subject for months afterward.

Those letters and comments were uniformly and universally opposed to kitten-burning. Opinon on that question was unanimous and vehement.

But here was the weird part: Most of the commenters and letter-writers didn’t seem to notice that they were expressing a unanimous and noncontroversial sentiment. Their comments and letters were contentious and sort of aggressively defensive. Or maybe defensively aggressive. They were angry, and that anger didn’t seem to be directed only at the kitten-burners, but also at some larger group of others whom they imagined must condone this sort of thing.

If you jumped into the comments thread and started reading at any random point in the middle, you’d get the impression that the comments immediately preceding must have offered a vigorous defense of kitten-burning. No such comments offering any such defense existed, and yet reader after reader seemed to be responding to or anticipating this phantom kitten-burning advocacy group.

One came away from that comment thread with the unsurprising but reassuring sense that the good people reading the paper’s Web site did not approve of burning kittens alive. Kitten-burning, they all insisted, was just plain wrong.

But one also came away from reading that thread with the sense that people seemed to think this ultra-minimal moral stance made them exceptional and exceptionally righteous. Like the earlier editorial writers, they seemed to think they were exhibiting courage by taking a bold position on a matter of great controversy. Whatever comfort might be gleaned from the reaffirmation that most people were right about this non-issue issue was overshadowed by the discomfiting realization that so many people also seemed to want or need most others to be wrong.

The kitten-burners seem to fulfill some urgent need. They give us someone we can clearly and correctly say we’re better than. Their extravagant cruelty makes us feel better about ourselves because we know that we would never do what they have done. They thus function as signposts of depravity, reassuring the rest of us that we’re Not As Bad As them, and thus letting us tell ourselves that this is the same thing as us being good.

Kitten-burners are particularly useful in this role because their atrocious behavior seems wholly alien and without any discernible motive that we might recognize in ourselves. We’re all at least dimly aware of our own potential capacity for the seven deadlies, so crimes motivated by lust, greed, gluttony, etc. — even when those crimes are particularly extreme — still contain the seed of something recognizable. People like Ken Lay or Hugh Hefner don’t work as signposts of depravity because we’re capable, on some level, of envying them for their greed and their hedonism. But we’re not the least bit jealous of the kitten-burners. Their cruelty seems both arbitrary and unrewarding, allowing us to condemn it without reservation.

Again, I whole-heartedly agree that kitten-burning is really, really bad. But the leap from “that’s bad” to “I’m not that bad” is dangerous and corrosive. I like to call this Thornton Melon morality. Melon was the character played by Rodney Dangerfield in the movie Back to School, the wealthy owner of a chain of “Tall & Fat” clothing stores whose motto was “If you want to look thin, you hang out with fat people.” That approach — finding people we can compare-down to — might make us feel a little better about ourselves, but it doesn’t change who or what we really are.

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pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

This is a funny blog post because you can substitute out Christianity for belief in the rumors of tide and it's still as accurate, but clearly, the guy lacks the introspection to realize it.

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