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What risk does he pose? E: outside of making money off dumb people that don't understand the rigours of arts academia and criticism?
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JBP posted:What risk does he pose? sticks and stones may break my bones but promoting fascism never hurt me
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Dec 19, 2018 22:42
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Solemn Sloth posted:sticks and stones may break my bones but promoting fascism never hurt me Does he? All I've heard him say is poorly constructed criticism of Marxism where he can't actually define Marxism and he has some beef with transgender people that I don't understand either
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Dec 19, 2018 22:44
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JBP posted:Does he? All I've heard him say is poorly constructed criticism of Marxism where he can't actually define Marxism and he has some beef with transgender people that I don't understand either He has the full on suite of alt right views, has been influential in policy making, and is generally seen as a more “acceptable” gateway into harder poo poo. Unfortunately he isn’t some ineffectual dweeb.
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Dec 19, 2018 22:48
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He gained his initial popularity with the alt right gamergate and reddit over the anti trans stuff. The whole reason they like and promote him is he's a gateway to their lovely ideas. Like gamergate was having fun targeting some student at a protest against him
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His Australia trip is only a book tour, I think, no lectures
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I read his book before I learned about him and for the most part I was like "this guy seems to at least think he knows what he's talking about" and then it got to the chapter where it takes a hard right turn into gender absolutism and then I was like "ohhh this guy is a moron"
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On top of what’s been pointed out, Peterson believes makeup is a sexual provocation and that we need to re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men. He’s a hardline reactionary in the trappings of an effete philosopher who’s just asking questions.
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Dec 19, 2018 23:16
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JBP melts down over Disney movies and should be treated with disdain
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Dec 19, 2018 23:21
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snoremac posted:On top of what’s been pointed out, Peterson believes makeup is a sexual provocation and that we need to re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men. He’s a hardline reactionary in the trappings of an effete philosopher who’s just asking questions. "...re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men." That is such a superficial interpretation of what he has said. Do you know the context in which he has said that? Come on now.
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Dec 19, 2018 23:24
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huh posted:"...re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men." (this is  for people who don't know how loving insufferable his fans are about telling you you've interpreted JP's chud-adjacent ramblings out of context)
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28766f69642a2930 posted:JBP melts down over Disney movies and should be treated with disdain song of the south did nothing wrong
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High-profile women touted as potential candidates to move in on Broad's vacant safe seat of Mallee Peta Credlin, the former chief of staff to then-prime minister Tony Abbott, and the Nationals deputy leader Bridget McKenzie emerge as potential candidates to take on the safe seat of Mallee, vacated by embattled MP Andrew Broad. looooool
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Comstar posted:What's going on here? Is the LNP now billing their travel costs based on flying in a F35? I think Air Ambulance is cheaper than this. Bronwyn must be so proud
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JBP posted:Why do people get so upset about Jordan Peterson he's just some hacky self help guy To be honest I just see the initial JP, and even though there's not a B in this case, I just get this Pavlovian response of hatred, not sure why. Synthbuttrange posted:High-profile women touted as potential candidates to move in on Broad's vacant safe seat of Mallee hahahahaha, parachuting Credlin into Mallee is quite possibly the worst plan I've ever heard of.
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Knobb Manwich posted:To be honest I just see the initial JP, and even though there's not a B in this case, I just get this Pavlovian response of hatred, not sure why. would it kill you to know that he's actually referred to as jordan b. peterson
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Memento posted:(this is Part of the fun is that while it's incredibly obvious what horrible poo poo he's implying he never explicitly says it so his followers simultaneously wholeheartedly agree with what he means and also demand you point out exactly when he allegedly said it. Knobb Manwich posted:To be honest I just see the initial JP, and even though there's not a B in this case, I just get this Pavlovian response of hatred, not sure why. Oh, but there is! His middle name is Bernt e:f;b
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Knobb Manwich posted:To be honest I just see the initial JP, and even though there's not a B in this case, I just get this Pavlovian response of hatred, not sure why. She was born in wycheproof so she’s just as much a local as Barnaby Joyce is to New England. Just stick an akubra on her and the loving yokels will vote for who they’re told
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TheMightyHandful posted:Bronwyn must be so proud Maybe he crashed the car and wrote it off?
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Solemn Sloth posted:She was born in wycheproof so she’s just as much a local as Barnaby Joyce is to New England. Just stick an akubra on her and the loving yokels will vote for who they’re told Great opportunity for a local independent to have a crack at it.
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bell jar posted:would it kill you to know that he's actually referred to as jordan b. peterson lmao Solemn Sloth posted:She was born in wycheproof so she’s just as much a local as Barnaby Joyce is to New England. Just stick an akubra on her and the loving yokels will vote for who they’re told they will vote nats because they always do at the nats "stick up for the country"??? Even if they hate Credlin, they hate Greens/Labor Commies more.
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huh posted:"...re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men." https://twitter.com/sheckyyoungman/status/1072596881807683585
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quote:White guy in Melbourne: why do these uppity minorities think fascism is dangerous it never hurt me???? The fact i still hear this poo poo so often in the year of are lord 2018 fucken shocks me every time, somehow. Shut the gently caress up dumb idiot JBP.
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I like the tweet a little further down that calls him "Mediocrates"
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GotLag posted:I like the tweet a little further down that calls him "Mediocrates" lmao this is perfect
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GotLag posted:I like the tweet a little further down that calls him "Mediocrates" That's very good
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snoremac posted:On top of what’s been pointed out, Peterson believes makeup is a sexual provocation and that we need to re-examine whether women should be in the same workplace as men. He’s a hardline reactionary in the trappings of an effete philosopher who’s just asking questions. Thank you. He also tries to normalise sexual harassment of women in the workplace and blame the victims by basically parroting old school “looked at how she dressed/acted. She was asking for it” bullshit. Women wearing makeup are being sexually provocative because the only reason women wear makeup is to be more sexually attractive (ignoring the social history and pressures for women around makeup), men shouldn’t be held responsible for their actions because they’re confused about the “rules” regarding male/female social interaction in a professional setting, etc. He points out facts about men that are true and important (like higher male suicide rates) and that show areas where men are disadvantaged but then extrapolates that into all situations are disadvantageous for men and uses it as an excuse to justify discrimination of others and poor behaviour of men. Dress all that up in a package of a highly educated authority figure, who speaks in a rational and intelligent manner and you have a guy whose views are given a wide platform. That’s the risk JBP.
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Tbh suicide rates in women would probably be higher, but they're just too goddamn busy/tired from dealing with our poo poo all the time. 2c. Edit: also JP doesn't speak in a rational or intelligent manner, but he tells the smooth brained idiots that hang off his every unintelligible word that he does and that's enough?
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old drawings of snakes boning means ancient people knew about dna. i'm a professor
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Don Dongington posted:Tbh suicide rates in women would probably be higher, but they're just too goddamn busy/tired from dealing with our poo poo all the time. He tells them what they want to hear and ties it to the more selfish libertarian aspects of psychology like that makes it moral. That's my take.
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JBP posted:He tells them what they want to hear and ties it to the more selfish libertarian aspects of psychology like that makes it moral. That's my take. Yes but if you actually listen to any of his "lectures" at length, he uses overcomplicated language that doesn't actually mean anything most of the time. A fair number of the things he's said don't actually make sense. He's the self help version of prog rock - it's needlessly overcomplicated but if you criticise it, its fans will claim you're just don't "get it." Peterson followers are just this decade's Tool fans.
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Don Dongington posted:Yes but if you actually listen to any of his "lectures" at length, he uses overcomplicated language that doesn't actually mean anything most of the time. A fair number of the things he's said don't actually make sense. He's the self help version of prog rock - it's needlessly overcomplicated but if you criticise it, its fans will claim you're just don't "get it." Yes for sure. I hate hearing him lean into criticism because he doesn't understand the things he is talking about and often uses the layman's understanding of poo poo like deconstruction and I'm like buddy Lacan and Derrida should rise from the grave and double-clothesline you.
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Don Dongington posted:Tbh suicide rates in women would probably be higher, but they're just too goddamn busy/tired from dealing with our poo poo all the time. Women are probably just too busy being murdered by men to commit suicide.
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Don Dongington posted:Yes but if you actually listen to any of his "lectures" at length, he uses overcomplicated language that doesn't actually mean anything most of the time. A fair number of the things he's said don't actually make sense. He's the self help version of prog rock - it's needlessly overcomplicated but if you criticise it, its fans will claim you're just don't "get it." There's definitely an Emperor's New Clothes vibe from his supporters
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tbh I melt down over Disney movies all the time as well because I love them. Circle of Life is my favourite song.
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AKA "I'm somewhere towards the autistic side of the the spectrum, and I'm absolutely terrible at interactions with other people, but due to toxic masculinity this doesn't really manifest in my interactions with other males due to the superficial nature of those interactions. But women are too hard for me, and I am very smart, so obviously this is their fault. Here is a diagram."
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Don Dongington posted:Tbh suicide rates in women would probably be higher, but they're just too goddamn busy/tired from dealing with our poo poo all the time. Suicide attempts are higher in women, but men have higher success rates because they tend to use more violent methods with a lower survival rate (e.g. shooting in the head vs pill overdose), and tend not to leave notes/crying voicemails that may tip people off before it's too late.
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