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Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1075273237758705665?s=19

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Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Clark’s essay is interesting because it offers explanation for not just things like Q or Satanic Panic but also, more gently, the reactions to mostly-imaginary cultural bogeymen. Christmas provides a lot of examples, from “they don’t let you say Merry Christmas!” to “the libs want to ban Rudolph!” The complaintant is asserting their own virtue more than showing any legitimate concern.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


twistedmentat posted:

Uh this is creepy

:stare:

The D&D aspect of Satanaic Panic came from a poor kid who had a lot of problems, including being gay in the 70s, tried to kill himself in the steam tunnels under his college. He told the private detective his parents hired to find him to tell them that he didn't try to kill himself because he was gay, but because D&D made him do it!

With its magic, and spells and levitation!

Wait until you read about anal blinking!

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

chitoryu12 posted:

I visited Comet Ping Pong twice this year to see what all the hubbub was about. You know why it had weird murals? It’s a hipster pizza place in an LGBT neighborhood. The bartender was a guy in short shorts with a backwards baseball cap.

It’s literally people going into a gay part of town and freaking out that everything unusual must be a hidden sign.

For the record, the food is actually pretty good and I recommend giving them your business if you’re in the area.

Chevy Chase is a LGBT neighborhood now? Always thought that was too far out of the city center and too vaguely suburban to get a rep like that.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/KELLYWEILL/status/1075450705450815489

https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1075451781574942721

Oh ho ho, we're not crazy, not like those flat earth people.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Can someone tell the hierarchy of insane believe in crazy theory land? It sounds interesting.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Toplowtech posted:

Can someone tell the hierarchy of insane believe in crazy theory land? It sounds interesting.

"Everyone is insane except for me." Thats about it. People who believe one conspiracy theory tend to hold multiple, even contradictory ones.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Toplowtech posted:

Can someone tell the hierarchy of insane believe in crazy theory land? It sounds interesting.
Flat earth is at or near the peak of that pyramid of crazy, simply because belief in a flat earth requires a cascading series of other highly-crazy beliefs in order to function.

At the bottom are conspiracy theories that are more or less standalone. Say, JFK conspiracy theorists. Or people who think Elvis isn't/wasn't dead. Maybe even 9/11 truthers. Stuff that someone might wrongly believe, but they don't also have to believe NASA faked the moon landing or that ancient America was populated by Europeans or that rich people drink the blood/hormones of children.

This Is the Zodiac
Feb 4, 2003

predicto posted:

Synth Nazis Must Die
I would buy this on a shirt.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high
Isn't there a theory that a lot of UFO theorists are government plants because that way people don't dig too deep into reports of experimental aircraft? I've always liked that one.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Z. Autobahn posted:

Isn't there a theory that a lot of UFO theorists are government plants because that way people don't dig too deep into reports of experimental aircraft? I've always liked that one.

Coral Lorenzen, who ran the Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization (APRO) in the 50s and 60s outright filtered out UFO reports that she could recognize as being missile/rocket tests and military craft.

Also any sensible researcher telling people that “Please don’t camp out by Area 51, believe me the accounts of reverse engineered flying saucers are dubious” will get labeled a government plant so that theory kind of falls apart. However, misinformation such as “whistleblowers”, “Top Secret Documents” and the like fed to head honchos like John Lear, Steven Greer, and Tom Delonge. Very real but also very questionable on what that accomplishes. On he other hand there are more clear examples like the recent UFO sighting in Ireland that has been accused of likely being a UK military drone test.

Dr. Killjoy fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Dec 19, 2018

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
A lot of flat earth is Christian fundies trying to say if the earth is flat than all science is fake an God is real.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Toplowtech posted:

Can someone tell the hierarchy of insane believe in crazy theory land? It sounds interesting.
The sociologist Michael Barkun came up with a three-category typology of conspiracy beliefs: event conspiracy theories (JFK, 9/11), systemic conspiracy theories (Rothschilds control all the banks, the whole medical industry is a sham by Big Pharma), and superconspiracies (conspiracies that control other conspiracies - so the Jews did 9/11 as one small element of a larger plot to bring about the New World Order and kill 90% of the goyim).

I don't think there's any empirical support for the idea that there's a distinct clustering or hierarchy of some kind here though. Systemic theories like the Big Pharma one are pretty popular, probably more so than 9/11 (at least in western countries). But the superconspiracies seem very likely to be at the top of the implausibility scale. QAnon is a superconspiracy for sure.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

twistedmentat posted:

A lot of flat earth is Christian fundies trying to say if the earth is flat than all science is fake an God is real.

Venn diagram of religious nuts and Qultists? A perfect circle.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Venn diagram of religious nuts and Qultists? A perfect circle.

Oh definitely not. Many Qultists dont believe in Jesus but use it as a substitute for their need for a messiah.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Oh definitely not. Many Qultists dont believe in Jesus but use it as a substitute for their need for a messiah.

I'm totally guessing but I can't imagine that there are many non-religious Qs left. At this point I think it's tied in with apocalyptic christianity almost completely.

Probably a similar story with flat earth and biblical literalists.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I dunno if y'all saw the flat earth conference article the Daily Beast did last month, but there's a ton of overlap between these guys and evangelical Christianity

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

zoux posted:

I dunno if y'all saw the flat earth conference article the Daily Beast did last month, but there's a ton of overlap between these guys and evangelical Christianity



Oh I'm not saying there isn't association just that a perfect circle implies everyone who believes one believes the other. Theres often multiple overlaps going on.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
To a certain degree mass undifferentiated Conspiracy makes for a modern secular millenarianist religion, with the Deepstate/NWO/government taking the role of the devil (MKULTRA and Mockingbird and all that other crap are pretty much a secular variation of demonic possession and the devil having his fingers in everything) and complete with underground bases and stuff with Jade Helm/Agenda 21/etc acting as the coming apocalypse.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

RagnarokAngel posted:

Oh definitely not. Many Qultists dont believe in Jesus but use it as a substitute for their need for a messiah.

You may be right. I'm just speculating based off the Doomsday Christianity people I know are the Qs.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

To a certain degree mass undifferentiated Conspiracy makes for a modern secular millenarianist religion, with the Deepstate/NWO/government taking the role of the devil (MKULTRA and Mockingbird and all that other crap are pretty much a secular variation of demonic possession and the devil having his fingers in everything) and complete with underground bases and stuff with Jade Helm/Agenda 21/etc acting as the coming apocalypse.

Which is funny, because you'd think if the end of the world was God's plan, they would want to help that getting started.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


ashpanash posted:

I'm totally guessing but I can't imagine that there are many non-religious Qs left. At this point I think it's tied in with apocalyptic christianity almost completely.

Probably a similar story with flat earth and biblical literalists.

There are non-religious Quilts. In fact one of the first things that occurred after reddit purged them and the great pilgrimage to Voat happened there was a big schism between the Jesus Qultists and non religious 4chan Qultists with each side declaring themselves the true disciples and followers of Q and the other side vile shill heretics that must be destroyed. Things have simmered down now but both sects still hate the other under the surface though there is slight adoptions of, I suppose the best word for them, Qanon rituals such as the boomer Jesus sect adoption of calling fellow qultists racial slurs as a term of endearment and the 4Chan sect adopting that while they don’t believe in god the cabal does really believe in Satan and is Satanic at the very least

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
Yeah, there are definitely a poo poo load of enlightened atheist fedora types among the Q ranks. In fact I'd say the younger Qultist tend to be these types, whereas the boomer Quidiots are the more Jesus-y faction.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Pope Guilty posted:

The Satanic Panic started because of a shrink who wanted to be famous.

That loving book

I bought a copy years ago because it sounded hysterical and who doesn't want to read the book that kicked off the Satanic Panic. It's gotta be good right?!


It's so god drat boring. The rituals are hysterically dumb and don't even manage to hit "70's Satan Movie" levels of believable, nearly every one of these rituals is ruined by Michelle who runs around causing chaos which none of these all powerful Satanists can do a loving thing about.

Canadian Satan shows up and is super lame and rhymes a bunch and it's bad.

Jesus also makes a guest appearance towards the end of the book because lol why the gently caress not.

It's a miserable book and I hate it. Someday I'll do a let's read but fuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Edith Upwards posted:

Either HN is (jokingly?) demanding the return of Caturday and other beloved 4chan traditions, or the Qultists and nazis have broken the only law ever held sacred by 4chan.

Are home appliances back in fashion? If so, I sincerely hope 4chan is dead for good.

Turned out to be a joke by both HN and the poster I was quoting, but as someone who's had property with cats/goats/owls on it, uh, if you get a religious son of a bitch who starts talking about demons than they're eventually going to destroy landscaping features and kill your animal buddies. Like, 100% sure that Abrahamic religion's grudge against graven images was tied to the same urge that causes fundies to start torturing cats and murdering statues. I also knew a christian lady who either murdered or disowned her kid and she'd tell us all about how the satanists killed him.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Real satanheads know the good Satanic panic poo poo is in Carman music videos

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Levitate posted:

Chevy Chase is a LGBT neighborhood now? Always thought that was too far out of the city center and too vaguely suburban to get a rep like that.

I saw a lot of rainbow flags and hipster places, and Comet Ping Pong is a dead ringer for restaurants in my own hometown of Orlando (which is almost as gay as San Francisco).

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Dr. Killjoy posted:

To a certain degree mass undifferentiated Conspiracy makes for a modern secular millenarianist religion, with the Deepstate/NWO/government taking the role of the devil (MKULTRA and Mockingbird and all that other crap are pretty much a secular variation of demonic possession and the devil having his fingers in everything) and complete with underground bases and stuff with Jade Helm/Agenda 21/etc acting as the coming apocalypse.

drat I loved Jade Helm. People were going nuts! I remember some dude camped outside a Walmart that was closing in Texas or somewhere handing breathless updates of the upcoming UN takeover. The UN was mainly operating out of removal trucks and Corollas.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

joylessdivision posted:

That loving book

I bought a copy years ago because it sounded hysterical and who doesn't want to read the book that kicked off the Satanic Panic. It's gotta be good right?!


It's so god drat boring. The rituals are hysterically dumb and don't even manage to hit "70's Satan Movie" levels of believable, nearly every one of these rituals is ruined by Michelle who runs around causing chaos which none of these all powerful Satanists can do a loving thing about.

Canadian Satan shows up and is super lame and rhymes a bunch and it's bad.

Jesus also makes a guest appearance towards the end of the book because lol why the gently caress not.

It's a miserable book and I hate it. Someday I'll do a let's read but fuuuuuuuuuuuck.

If you're looking for a more-entertaining Satanic Panic book, He Came To Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown is a wild time. She gets right to the demon summoning, kung-fu witches, baby sacrifices, and getting hosed by Satan himself, all within the first 50 pages! She's not wasting your time here!

Although it does eventually get bogged down with a weird, overly-long description of how she thinks souls work later on, but you can just skip that part.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Crunch Buttsteak posted:

If you're looking for a more-entertaining Satanic Panic book, He Came To Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown is a wild time. She gets right to the demon summoning, kung-fu witches, baby sacrifices, and getting hosed by Satan himself, all within the first 50 pages! She's not wasting your time here!

Although it does eventually get bogged down with a weird, overly-long description of how she thinks souls work later on, but you can just skip that part.

Totally going to check that out. And don't worry I have no problem skipping over tedious poo poo in a book.

Like most of Satan's dialog in Michelle Remembers.

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

There was a meteor over the Nor Cal sky tonight, and guess what some people are seeing?


https://twitter.com/beldandolo/status/1075613106011656194

Pinche Rudo fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Dec 20, 2018

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Jenkem Delivery posted:

There was a meteor over the Nor Cal sky tonight, and guess what some people are seeing?


https://twitter.com/beldandolo/status/1075613106011656194

Yes, if I squint real hard and just believe, that looks like a Q! :downs:

Jesus christ, the worms have spread to their eyes

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

(((meteor)))

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

This falls squarely in the Qesus camp, right? I'm assuming the qatheists aren't looking for sky omens.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
It looks like a giant question mark, which suggests that the Riddler is on the loose.

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Goon Danton posted:

This falls squarely in the Qesus camp, right? I'm assuming the qatheists aren't looking for sky omens.

I’d imagine that would depend on the individual qongregant’s weakness or resistance to embracing UFO-related conspiracy narratives (referred to by science doers as their Gribble quotient)

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Qonspiracy narratives.

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

Mortal Qombat

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

Seqlarist surely

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


https://twitter.com/childrenshealth/status/1075507032537620480?s=20

Obama, a key member of THE CABAL, visited a children’s hospital for the holidays and brought them gifts. I can only imagine QAnon is gonna explode at Obama hunting for his next victim or however this will be seen

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Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?

Dr. VooDoo posted:

https://twitter.com/childrenshealth/status/1075507032537620480?s=20

Obama, a key member of THE CABAL, visited a children’s hospital for the holidays and brought them gifts. I can only imagine QAnon is gonna explode at Obama hunting for his next victim or however this will be seen

What do you look for to check if a kid's adrenal glands are ripe?

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