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Dec 20, 2018 07:45
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Lmao who got offended by the fat otter tweet show yourself coward
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Dec 20, 2018 07:52
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We regret to inform you the otter is racially insensitive.
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Dec 20, 2018 07:59
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christmas boots posted:Lmao who got offended by the fat otter tweet show yourself coward Since their goal is to ruin everything, I'm gonna assume that something in that tweet that looked innocuous to us was actually some weird Nazi coded memespeak.
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Dec 20, 2018 08:01
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RareAcumen posted:Since their goal is to ruin everything, I'm gonna assume that something in that tweet that looked innocuous to us was actually some weird Nazi coded memespeak. Nah, it's just using AAVE language in a way that could be seen as mocking black women. They've owned up to it thoroughly and tried to help others aware of why it was bad. Kind of an  moment in the end.
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Dec 20, 2018 08:24
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jobson groeth posted:Nah, it's just using AAVE language in a way that could be seen as mocking black women. They've owned up to it thoroughly and tried to help others aware of why it was bad. Kind of an It is rather otterizing. otherizing
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Dec 20, 2018 08:25
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jobson groeth posted:Nah, it's just using AAVE language in a way that could be seen as mocking black women. They've owned up to it thoroughly and tried to help others aware of why it was bad. Kind of an That well known aave term chonk
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Dec 20, 2018 08:29
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jobson groeth posted:Nah, it's just using AAVE language in a way that could be seen as mocking black women. 
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Dec 20, 2018 08:29
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Legendary African American hip hop artist Absolute G Unit
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Dec 20, 2018 08:34
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As someone, who is black, I have to say AAVE is the whitest term I've heard in all of 2018.
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Dec 20, 2018 08:44
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JT Smiley posted:As someone, who is black, I have to say AAVE is the whitest term I've heard in all of 2018. I'm using their term. I'd never heard it before today either. But I'm also about as far from the USA as you can possibly get though so it's not something that is ever likely to come up here.
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Dec 20, 2018 09:27
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May as well post the thread. I got curious as to why it was bad as afaik absolute unit is a UK slang thing and chonk was the fat cat chart posted earlier. Guess thicc and she comin could easily be what they're talking about as they don't specify what part was actually wrong. https://twitter.com/MontereyAq/status/1075507604950966274 https://twitter.com/MontereyAq/status/1075507605550686208 https://twitter.com/MontereyAq/status/1075507606049808384 https://twitter.com/MontereyAq/status/1075507606645465088
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Dec 20, 2018 09:31
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I'm guessing it's the "oh lawd" part
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Dec 20, 2018 09:33
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Fishstick posted:I'm guessing it's the "oh lawd" part quote:In particular, several terms referenced originated from African American Vernacular English (AAVE) and specifically reference Black women's bodies.
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Dec 20, 2018 10:21
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jobson groeth posted:May as well post the thread. I got curious as to why it was bad as afaik absolute unit is a UK slang thing and chonk was the fat cat chart posted earlier. Guess thicc and she comin could easily be what they're talking about as they don't specify what part was actually wrong. This feels so dril
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Dec 20, 2018 10:35
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I'd say the ship has sailed on "thicc" being a word only black people are allowed to use/a word that refers exclusively to black women's bodies.
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Dec 20, 2018 10:38
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Crocoswine posted:I'd say the ship has sailed on "thicc" being a word only black people are allowed to use/a word that refers exclusively to black women's bodies. That's definitely a valid point. The fact that they've taken this as a learning / teaching moment rather than digging in is a nice change though.
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Dec 20, 2018 11:47
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https://twitter.com/UoLYoungTories/status/1075105679592079361 Young tories are tattling to the university that they can't get girls because of their garbage personalities.
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Dec 20, 2018 12:13
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Agents are GO! posted:It is rather otterizing. otherizing  http://discourseontheotter.tumblr.com/
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Dec 20, 2018 13:44
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JT Smiley posted:As someone, who is black, I have to say AAVE is the whitest term I've heard in all of 2018. It's just an academic term, being stuffy and overly technical it part of it's charm. I think AAVE replaced Ebonics when people were being too racist about the latter.
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Dec 20, 2018 14:34
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JT Smiley posted:As someone, who is black, I have to say AAVE is the whitest term I've heard in all of 2018. Obviously you didn’t minor in communications at a liberal arts college like I d-ahh gently caress that’s even whiter!
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Dec 20, 2018 14:38
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its stupid. and anyone pissy about calling an otter thicc needs to find a less stupid thing to be mad about. I mean its almost 2019 ffs and you are mad at an aquarium.
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Dec 20, 2018 14:40
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I mean, people are entitled to be sensitive about things that matter to them and the aquarium is entitled to take that as seriously as they feel like. In this case they decided not hurting someone's feelings was more important to their public image than using a meme. Nobody really lost anything and it was a pretty graceful apology, even if it's not a major issue in my eyes, I can't really be mad about how it seems to have gone
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Dec 20, 2018 14:58
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hell, same
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Dec 20, 2018 15:00
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Brawnfire posted:I like to imagine they received a very vague omen. Just a place, a span of time, and the number 11. With that, they can stop the Antichrist... If they were correct in their interpretation. Man, "The Prince of Tides 2" got really weird.
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Dec 20, 2018 15:30
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Huntersoninski posted:I mean, people are entitled to be sensitive about things that matter to them and the aquarium is entitled to take that as seriously as they feel like. In this case they decided not hurting someone's feelings was more important to their public image than using a meme. Nobody really lost anything and it was a pretty graceful apology, even if it's not a major issue in my eyes, I can't really be mad about how it seems to have gone Although looking at the replies I didn’t actually see anyone who did get upset so the cynic in me can’t help but wonder if the whole thing from tweet to apology was planned from the get-go. Social media has poisoned me
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Dec 20, 2018 17:07
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christmas boots posted:Although looking at the replies I didn’t actually see anyone who did get upset so the cynic in me can’t help but wonder if the whole thing from tweet to apology was planned from the get-go. Given what normally goes down on Twitter, I can't really muster up any level of caring about this.
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Dec 20, 2018 17:11
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Aave is Finnish for ghost so I assume that everybody is talking about ghosts
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Dec 20, 2018 17:19
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The problem with their teaching/learning moment is I have zero idea what i'm supposed to be learning or what they're teaching "Some words have black origins"? Okay and?
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Dec 20, 2018 17:33
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Standard Measure posted:"Some words have black origins"? Okay and? on one level, it's not good to appropriate african american culture on another level, people on twitter who are aware of this will police the hell out of each other looking for apostates because the entire point of social media is to get into arguments, and if you block/refuse to engage with people you actually disagree with then you'll end up arguing with the people who are in 99% agreement with you about how that 1% condemns them as a class traitor
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Dec 20, 2018 17:57
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There's a human being called "Bill Deagle" and he's not a Counterstrike Esports Commentator
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Dec 20, 2018 17:58
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https://twitter.com/Lowenaffchen/status/1075777963923107841?s=19
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Dec 20, 2018 18:25
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we've been swindled into donating all our money to a (((jewish))) scam instead of a patriotic WHITE american scam
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Dec 20, 2018 18:36
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luxury handset posted:on one level, it's not good to appropriate african american culture I misrepresent myself. the concept and why it can be bad is fine. the "some" is my problem. It's fine if you apologise, but don't frame it as a teaching moment if we had to have a page of conversation trying to work out what you were apologising for. also yes, purity tests are bullshit.
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Dec 20, 2018 18:40
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Standard Measure posted:The problem with their teaching/learning moment is I have zero idea what i'm supposed to be learning or what they're teaching Understanding the origins of words or phrases helps you avoid using them in an insensitive way. Also these sorta slip ups are worse when it's corporate entities doing it.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:03
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Ularg posted:Understanding the origins of words or phrases helps you avoid using them in an insensitive way. Also these sorta slip ups are worse when it's corporate entities doing it. I dunno, american slang is american slang. The fact that some american slang is coined by swarthy americans shouldn't mean you have to fail a paper bag test before you're allowed to use it. Deliberately excluding any slang that isn't lily white in origin would just be another kind of discrimination.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:25
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Facebook Aunt posted:I dunno, american slang is american slang. The fact that some american slang is coined by swarthy americans shouldn't mean you have to fail a paper bag test before you're allowed to use it. Deliberately excluding any slang that isn't lily white in origin would just be another kind of discrimination. On the one hand I want to agree with you in spirit, on the other hand this is word-for-word the argument an ex-friend would use when he complained that the real racism was against white people for not being allowed to say the n-word.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:29
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wizzardstaff posted:On the one hand I want to agree with you in spirit, on the other hand this is word-for-word the argument an ex-friend would use when he complained that the real racism was against white people for not being allowed to say the n-word. I know. poo poo is complicated and there isn't an easy way to make everyone happy.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:31
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Are we back on the cultural appropriation discussion? There's no easy demarcation line as to what is ok cultural appropriation and what is an act of colonial oppression. With the particular context of black American dialects, the problems around have less to do with white people "taking" the culture than they do with white people mocking black people using it, in the same way that having a pimps and hos party at your frat is an act of mockery, since white people often reference speech as a sign of inferiority. Simply put, every act the dominant culture does is suspect, but that does not make every act harmful cultural appropriation. White American culture is the culture of colonialism, and this legacy is inescapable, so don't expect an easy rule of thumb. Whether or not this aquarium tweet was that (I really don't think it was), the worthless performative wokeness of twitter is actually a problem beyond just purity tests. Social media isn't a conversation, it's a performance and a branding exercise, and only becomes moreso this every year as employers begin actively mining social media for information on workers. There's no substance to any of these callouts, no substantive critiques, no grappling with why AAVE is appropriated the way it is or the power relations behind it. Even the context it gives is generic and a dead end. Are they implying that period assumed the tweet was comparing black women to otters? It leads a type of lazy slacktivist thinking that is purely inward looking and focused on self-policing for symbolic acts, and it is absolute poison to activist work and solidarity thinking, especially among the bougie white people it is most common in, since they often have no other game of reference though which to view social justice ideas. Beelzebufo has a new favorite as of 20:00 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 19:39
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No one is worse off as a result of the aquarium's response and nobody would be better off if they ignored the criticism so why does it matter Jesus Christ
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