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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/1075273027271585792 Semi related, but I can see the same happening to Slime if they decide to roll out the next season soon after this one ends to maintain momentum. I could definetly see it getting pushed into Spring or even Summer of 2020 to let the manga breath since Kodansha doesn't went it to nip at its heels. Edit: Top Selling Media Franchises for 2018 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-19/top-selling-media-franchises-in-japan-2018/.141064 SLIIIIME! doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 18:28
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This might be old news but HOLY poo poo CHIHAYAFURU SEASON 3 IS HAPPENING
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Dec 20, 2018 18:31
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How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now.
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Dec 20, 2018 18:31
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ViggyNash posted:This might be old news but HOLY poo poo CHIHAYAFURU SEASON 3 IS HAPPENING
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Dec 20, 2018 18:33
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Waffleman_ posted:Crunchyroll will be hosting dubbed episodes of Shield Hero the same day they air in Japan. That's better than what it deserves. I do have to admit, Crunchyroll knows it's market PERFECTLY well hence a previous post about the GS fiasco being a completely intentional and calculated move.
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Dec 20, 2018 18:50
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Darth Walrus posted:How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now. turns out there's no bottom to that well
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Dec 20, 2018 18:53
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it's been rolling for five years so the anime is kind of expected
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Darth Walrus posted:How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now. As for in the homeland, no clue. I don't know enough about Japanese politics to speculate.
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Darth Walrus posted:How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now. Not sure how big it actually is though. Like dogsicle said, yeah it's been going on for a while and has a bunch of spinoffs, but I don't recall it being this massive thing in any of its mediums. Got a lot of good rep some years ago, but that was some years ago. It's been getting some buzz, but along with it some revival of its more controversial aspects so who knows. Either way, the nerd incel market is eternal.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:04
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who cares about all this junk, the chad volcel slime is superior in every way
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Slime show is also bad, it's just not really morally contemptible.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:08
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Rimuru is living his best life, and helping those around him do the same.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:26
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doomrider7 posted:Not sure how big it actually is though. Like dogsicle said, yeah it's been going on for a while and has a bunch of spinoffs, but I don't recall it being this massive thing in any of its mediums. Got a lot of good rep some years ago, but that was some years ago. It's been getting some buzz, but along with it some revival of its more controversial aspects so who knows. Either way, the nerd incel market is eternal. I'm pretty sure the reason it seems so big right now is Crunchy's heavy marketing for it, and I think they're on the production committee, so yeah.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:33
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It has a lot of marketing going into it, but from what I've heard over the past year, shield hero was a pretty popular light novel series and helped bolster the boom of them over the past half-decade, though idk how true those claims are.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:45
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Please look forward to #ShieldHeroEN's truly simuldub, gamers
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Dec 20, 2018 19:46
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm pretty sure the reason it seems so big right now is Crunchy's heavy marketing for it, and I think they're on the production committee, so yeah. Yeah I know about that and it loving pisses me off. Like, why not back stuff like Gridman, Zombie Land Saga, Slime, Promised Neverland, or any of the other great shows running and upcoming? Why go for the worst crap? Rhetorical question since I'm already fairly sure why, but it still infuriates me and depresses me about the fandom.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:47
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They fund a decent spread of stuff, I dunno the degree to which accessibility and opportunity plays a role in getting on committees, and fantasy LN stuff is generally popular on CR, so idk
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doomrider7 posted:Yeah I know about that and it loving pisses me off. Like, why not back stuff like Gridman, Zombie Land Saga, Slime, Promised Neverland, or any of the other great shows running and upcoming? Why go for the worst crap? Rhetorical question since I'm already fairly sure why, but it still infuriates me and depresses me about the fandom.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Slime show is also bad, it's just not really morally contemptible. Slime show rules actually, it's so loving nerdy and detailed and it feels luxurious
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Julias posted:It has a lot of marketing going into it, but from what I've heard over the past year, shield hero was a pretty popular light novel series and helped bolster the boom of them over the past half-decade, though idk how true those claims are. Very true. I do remember it being repped a lot some years ago, but the same could apply to several others like Moshuko Tensei, Arifureta, and others. I do remember Shield Hero moving out of the pack more, but can't recall the specifics or why. chumbler posted:Rimuru is living his best life, and helping those around him do the same. I'm so sad that we won't get to the LN4 and most definetly the LN5 stuff. And yes I 100% agree. According to my source guy, that was a MAJOR catalyst to its popularity. The LN details it better, but Rimuru is very much not a self insert. Like yes you would like to BE him, but not in any different way you'd want to be protagonist of any other show or game, but would greatly settle for just working with him in some capacity. He has likes, dislikes, doubts, virtues, and failings one of which that the manga and anime gloss over is that for a big chunk of LN's 1 and 2, he's still mentally rather condescending to his monster people. Not in a racist "these people are beneath me" but more, "they're pretty good/smart for monsters" and stays a somewhat distrustful of them for a bit. This is largely gone by LN3 and even more so in LN4 with it being COMPLETELY gone in 5. The fact that the series also has a nice easy going pace with some instances of action and adventure have also made it very appealing to people.
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Endorph posted:I mean, it's not about 'the fandom,' all the things you just listed are insanely popular, way moreso than shield hero. crunchyroll is promoting shield hero heavily because it has a stake in it. the fandom has no impact on that. Yeah I know. It just pisses me off that out of all the great shows to buy into they picked THAT one. an actual dog posted:Slime show rules actually, it's so loving nerdy and detailed and it feels luxurious Read the LN's they're all of that, but more of it including Gobta's Big Adventure.
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Darth Walrus posted:How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now. plenty of isekai stories objectify women, but shield hero really goes the extra mile by escalating it to the actual fear and mistrust common in the incel movement doomrider7 posted:Yeah I know about that and it loving pisses me off. Like, why not back stuff like Gridman, Zombie Land Saga, Slime, Promised Neverland, or any of the other great shows running and upcoming? Why go for the worst crap? Rhetorical question since I'm already fairly sure why, but it still infuriates me and depresses me about the fandom. my guess would be that when an anime platform publishes chum for the chuds, it drives away traffic that would potentially go to the good stuff. i have to assume zombieland saga and goblin slayer aren't showing up on the same networks in japan, but they are in the same networks in america, and there's a limit to people who will be willing to put up with the latter to support the former
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i dont think anyone really cares about one over the other, and again, zombieland is way more popular, on crunchyroll, in the west, than goblin slayer is. like western fan polls have zombieland way higher than goblin slayer. goblin slayer is not this massively popular scourge on the world. anime news network's cumulative rankings (based on voted ratings and interest on individual episodes, averaged over time) have it below freaking honda-san and karakuri circus. that one facebook group that everyone posts the popularity charts from has it below bloom into you. there's that literal nation of goblin slayer meme image based on crunchyroll's viewer rankings but, goblin slayer generated a ton of controversy, its unsurprising its viewer count was massive. long term fan engagement does not seem to that ridiculously high to justify all this handwringing. it's okay. you can stop caring about goblin slayer. anime is okay. the show that's ridiculously successful and everyone loves is not being destroyed and shamed by the one-off light novel adaptation. breathe.
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Endorph posted:i dont think anyone really cares about one over the other, and again, zombieland is way more popular, on crunchyroll, in the west, than goblin slayer is. like western fan polls have zombieland way higher than goblin slayer. ????
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long term, consistent popularity and a bunch of people watching a couple of episodes are not the same thing goblin slayer can have the latter by a wide margin without having the former. i've seen like, no evidence to prove that goblin slayer is anything but moderately popular from pretty much any source i can find, even 'normie' ones. it is not the biggest show of this season by any metric that i can find besides one viewer data thing from crunchyroll.
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I'm not sure an Anime News Network or Facebook poll is reliable for determining the popularity of a show.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I'm not sure an Anime News Network or Facebook poll is reliable for determining the popularity of a show.
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If you wanna go by CR's internal "most watched ep" metrics then 99% of traffic all goes to the shounen standbys
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Motto posted:If you wanna go by CR's internal "most watched ep" metrics then 99% of traffic all goes to the shounen standbys actually yeah even crunchy's own 'popular!" section has goblin slayer below zombieland, slime, black clover, and bunnygirl senpai.
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to be clear i think the good shows would be more popular if they were on properly curated platforms as opposed to being thrown into a big jumble alongside the rapey nationalism show. i agree that goblin slayer is not that popular, but i think it's driving down interest in other, better shows. i would definitely be more ready to recommend crunchyroll to other people if it weren't so invested in sharing its space with an endless parade of slavery harem isekais
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corporations are literally the last people on earth I'd trust with any kind of 'curation' especially since a ton of shows that aren't actually nationalist get branded with that label, like youjo senki or girls und panzer or whatever, so I don't think that's a road that'd be good for anyone to go down. And, iunno, netflix hosts tons of movies that exist solely as propaganda for the US military which is the kind of media that costs more lasting harm than anything goblin slayer could ever do, but I never see that kind of attitude about netflix.
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Endorph posted:its a lot more reliable than 'goblin slayer must be insanely popular because Anime Fans Are Bad', and 'zombieland saga is unpopular (even though it isn't) because Goblin Slayer exists' I don't think anyone is saying that, but more that it's more popular than it has any business being so likely due to the controversy that was likely cause intentionally by CR for that specific purpose. The discussion though was more about how Crunchy seems to buy into and sponsor stuff like Shield Hero when there are so many better options. In any case, With no context, here's a picture of Rimuru in a Bunny Outfit.  Behold. The REAL Bunny Senpai!
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*shrug* i definitely think that everything getting put in the same pot has shaped western perception of the medium, but that applies to the torrent/VHS/etc days too, and plenty of innocuous shows start or stay stuck in the late-night environment in japan anyway.
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doomrider7 posted:The discussion though was more about how Crunchy seems to buy into and sponsor stuff like Shield Hero when there are so many better options. A Place Further Than The Universe Ancient Magus Bride How To Keep A Mummy Yuru Camp Recovery of an MMO Junkie Motto posted:*shrug* i definitely think that everything getting put in the same pot has shaped western perception of the medium, but that applies to the torrent/VHS/etc days too, and plenty of innocuous shows start or stay stuck in the late-night environment in japan anyway.
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For the popularity thing, you also need to consider places like Reddit and bootleg rip sites like Kissanime.
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Endorph posted:I mean, that's hardly the only kind of anime they've been involved in. Some random examples of other anime they've been a producer on: Fair point. It's just frustrating I guess since this coming season has some promising looking stuff. Now back to Rimuru in a Bunny Outfit. Behold. The REAL Bunny Senpai!
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doomrider7 posted:For the popularity thing, you also need to consider places like Reddit and bootleg rip sites like Kissanime. doomrider7 posted:Fair point. It's just frustrating I guess since this coming season has some promising looking stuff. Now back to Rimuru in a Bunny Outfit.
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crunchyroll helped fund kemono friends and now season 2 will be a corporate hellhole, no coincidence there if you ask me. if you have any moral backbone at all you'd have cancelled your subscription already
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Davincie posted:crunchyroll helped fund kemono friends and now season 2 will be a corporate hellhole, no coincidence there if you ask me. if you have any moral backbone at all you'd have cancelled your subscription already
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