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Maybe Bethesda will just recreate Fallout 1 and 2 from a first person perspective. Would be easier than trying to make their own poo poo.
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Father Wendigo posted:Surely this will be what saves Fallout 76! lmao
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antidote posted:Maybe Bethesda will just recreate Fallout 1 and 2 from a first person perspective. Would be easier than trying to make their own poo poo. I'm trying to think about how they'd go about doing that, because a lot of the gameplay time I have on either one of them was spent waiting for the turn-based combat movement of mole rats that I couldn't even see or the New Reno hookers fleeing from gunfire or whatever. I'd have to assume the real-time combat would end up making both games significantly shorter. Plus they'd "have to" tack on some kind of crafting system as Bethesda is wont to do, and so on. You could maybe package them together into a single game and have like a "80 YEARS LATER" movie sequence/title card/whatever or just package them like a Final Fantasy anthology thing like Squeenix did with FFX/X-2. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily WANT them to do it, but they could sure try.
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Mr Hootington posted:The opposite of what most people seem to want. ^^^ New Thread Title ^^^
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Mr Hootington posted:The opposite of what most people seem to want. If it is PVP only servers it would be something people wanted in the game since day 1. BGS will find a way to gently caress even that simple idea up.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:If it is PVP only servers it would be something people wanted in the game since day 1. BGS will find a way to gently caress even that simple idea up. If it was in day 1 I would have picked up the game from one of those $35 preorder deals purely because of the chaos of it, and that was IF it was the default mode. Why would I want it now that the game is not doing so hot and as a non-default mode?
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Mr Hootington posted:The opposite of what most people seem to want. the people don't know what's good for them
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SwitchbladeKult posted:If it is PVP only servers it would be something people wanted in the game since day 1. BGS will find a way to gently caress even that simple idea up. Known Issues: *Anti-cheating measures in PvP servers causes both players and NPC enemies to become immune to damage. *Legendary weapons with the Radiation Damage bonus can still cause radiation damage to other players in the PvE server.
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Playing Fallout 76 after the PVP patch nukes your harddrive randomly.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:If it is PVP only servers it would be something people wanted in the game since day 1. BGS will find a way to gently caress even that simple idea up. Day 1 separate servers for sure people wanted that, but this is Bethesda so it will be all servers full of invincible players because anti-cheat kicked in on everyone.
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Or everyone will die from ramped up damage rates over just jumping and taking 5000 fall damage for a rock in the road.
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Crabtree posted:Or everyone will die from ramped up damage rates over just jumping and taking 5000 fall damage for a rock in the road. This damage will be misinterpreted by the physics engine and launch the player into the stratosphere like the giants in Skyrim.
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Crabtree posted:You never get to be the faction of Communist propagandists. What the gently caress Todd. Like, imagine you had a chinese ghoul companion, and they get more and more depressed as your journey with them because no one cares about capitalism or communism anymore.
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SardonicTyrant posted:They had chinese communist ghouls as enemies in 3. I'm surprised they never expanded upon that. I don't know, you could do a lot of interesting things with a 200 year-old current or former Maoist. I trust Bethesda to do none of those interesting things with the concept.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I don't know, you could do a lot of interesting things with a 200 year-old current or former Maoist. I trust Bethesda to do none of those interesting things with the concept. This is a thing I dont understand- why would a ghoul who has lived and suffered 200 years on post-apocalypse still be blood-red maoist, or even remember the prewar world? I mean people flak on bethesda all the time over having DC look like war was yesterday, But why would mr. Mao the ghoul give Any more flying fucks about per-war world anymore after 200 years of ”Need food for today and ammo to shoot those drat Molerats tomorrow”-existence? Normal people tend to change over a couple of decades If ordinary life, a century of wasteland should pretty much remake you into a new person.
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Valtonen posted:This is a thing I dont understand- why would a ghoul who has lived and suffered 200 years on post-apocalypse still be blood-red maoist, or even remember the prewar world? I mean people flak on bethesda all the time over having DC look like war was yesterday, But why would mr. Mao the ghoul give Any more flying fucks about per-war world anymore after 200 years of ”Need food for today and ammo to shoot those drat Molerats tomorrow”-existence? Normal people tend to change over a couple of decades If ordinary life, a century of wasteland should pretty much remake you into a new person. Well this isn't Threads. It's a story where virtually every character is attempting to maintain or is even cartoonishly obsessed with the pre-war political caricatures of life.
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Oh lookie here from the e3 reveal
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heeheex2 posted:idgi build-able vendors, which are not something you can make in-game
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Not in the actual game E:b
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Valtonen posted:This is a thing I dont understand- why would a ghoul who has lived and suffered 200 years on post-apocalypse still be blood-red maoist, or even remember the prewar world? I mean people flak on bethesda all the time over having DC look like war was yesterday, But why would mr. Mao the ghoul give Any more flying fucks about per-war world anymore after 200 years of ”Need food for today and ammo to shoot those drat Molerats tomorrow”-existence? Normal people tend to change over a couple of decades If ordinary life, a century of wasteland should pretty much remake you into a new person.
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Rinkles posted:Oh lookie here Stash limit increase had to come from somewhere.
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the 200 year old incel
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SardonicTyrant posted:There's any number of ways to make it work. You could have the ghoul be the last remaining True Believer of a larger group, and one way their quest could end is to help them let go of the past. Or to bring the good aspects of that philosphy to help others, make them let go of embittered enemies that no longer exist and bring about a collectivist home for everyone he can.
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mormonpartyboat posted:the 200 year old incel dont sign your posts
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mormonpartyboat posted:dont sign your posts 
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Rinkles posted:Oh lookie here Dispenser goin up *reads two more posts* nevermind
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How is this game so consistently bad?
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Valtonen posted:This is a thing I dont understand- why would a ghoul who has lived and suffered 200 years on post-apocalypse still be blood-red maoist, or even remember the prewar world? I mean people flak on bethesda all the time over having DC look like war was yesterday, But why would mr. Mao the ghoul give Any more flying fucks about per-war world anymore after 200 years of ”Need food for today and ammo to shoot those drat Molerats tomorrow”-existence? Normal people tend to change over a couple of decades If ordinary life, a century of wasteland should pretty much remake you into a new person. Maybe he could have just come out of a secret chinese sleeper vault. Or been cryogenically frozen like the FO4 protagonist.
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Liquid Communism posted:How is this game so consistently bad? I think a combination of this: Bethesda is bad at fixing bugs. MMOs are big and complicated. Sandbox games are hard to test. It was build by the b-team. Bad management. Releasing early to hit Xmax.
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Are the fo76 is bad people the pc crowd because of hacks and stuff?
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Yesterday wasn't a fluke. Today's Whitesprings blast zone was similarly busted. Also ended in a disconnect. Was the blast zone framerate always this bad? E:omg despite reading about it, I accidentally auto scrapped all the hardened mass Rinkles fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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I'm just going to try and be constructive briefly. This would work better with private servers. There we go, that just about the only thing you could do to "fix" this mess, because it is just another online survival game, one among hundreds that Steam has been spewing forth for years now. And they only really work when there's some persistence to the whole "survival" thing, otherwise it very quickly stops being fun, if you can't build a giant penis with lights and swastikas, why bother? Otherwise you're just playing The Division with a Fallout skin and who the hell wants that.
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Heh, a Maoist companion you say? Have I got the mod for you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKN8HAd6oM
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What the hell did they do this update? Constant disconnects.
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Mr Hootington posted:Day 1 separate servers for sure people wanted that, but this is Bethesda so it will be all servers full of invincible players because anti-cheat kicked in on everyone. Oh yeah. Sorry, didn't mean for that to sound like I was disagreeing. Always on PVP servers at this point can't work. Everyone is packing two-shot instigating gauss rifles and explosive shotguns that do 500+ damage. PVP of any kind is totally hosed.
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I would do this: Levelling pvp servers: limited to players level 1-35. 20% xp bonus playing in this server. Bounty pvp servers. Extra loot with mobs. Level 35 and above.
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Scrap this whole thing and start from scratch.
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Solarin posted:Dispenser goin up https://youtu.be/mZqTP5AnFRg
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