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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

ok it's less bad since I found out my name wasn't included as the filer for a bunch of poo poo that probably got "helpfully shared" into that treasury backchannel

fucks rescinded

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Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Nostalgia4Dogges posted:




searing hot take here from the facebooks

just like to point out that this loving moron was personally banned from speaking in auckland by our mayor

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Allow me to introduce Senator Brian Schatz (D - Hawaii).

Generally, he's a very cool guy. Unfortunately, he is getting turbofucked by this voting poo poo.

Because you see, Senator Brian Schatz left for Hawaii (11 hour flight) after the Senate passed the funding bill, since Donnie said he'd sign it. Now, because Donnie Cheesebrain changed his mind and the House passed a version with wall funding, Senator Brian Schatz is needed back in Washington for the Friday vote knocking down the walled version. So, he has to get back on the 11-hour flight, again, because members of Congress have to be physically present to vote.

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075927173406482433

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075942738162417664

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

facialimpediment posted:

Allow me to introduce Senator Brian Schatz (D - Hawaii).

Generally, he's a very cool guy. Unfortunately, he is getting turbofucked by this voting poo poo.

Because you see, Senator Brian Schatz left for Hawaii (11 hour flight) after the Senate passed the funding bill, since Donnie said he'd sign it. Now, because Donnie Cheesebrain changed his mind and the House passed a version with wall funding, Senator Brian Schatz is needed back in Washington for the Friday vote knocking down the walled version. So, he has to get back on the 11-hour flight, again, because members of Congress have to be physically present to vote.

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075927173406482433

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075942738162417664

Does the Senate work that way? Is it a hard 60 votes for cloture, or 60% of the quorum?

e: Looks like it's 3/5 of the entire Senate - https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30360.pdf. Should have enjoyed his schadenfreude-laden Christmas instead.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Dec 21, 2018

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I don't feel bad for members of congress having to deal with bullshit work requirements, like being told by your boss you have to come back to the office after you already planned a vacation. I just don't.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Does the Senate work that way? Is it a hard 60 votes for cloture, or 60% of the quorum?

This poo poo's apparently weird. From what I remember reading, there will be three votes in the Senate. Vote 1) Majority needed, to simply take up the House modification. Vote 2) 60 needed, cloture. Vote 3) Majority needed to either pass the House version or send back a compromise version.

Reminder: the Senate version passed by voice vote. Basically, ANY Senator could've delayed that vote (and didn't), or 20% of the quorum could've requested a full roll call vote (they didn't!).

So, vote 1 might not even pass because Republican Senators are pissed off or out of town. Vote 2 definitely won't even come anywhere close.

For the above/below: nah, it's just funny!

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Dec 21, 2018

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

facialimpediment posted:

Allow me to introduce Senator Brian Schatz (D - Hawaii).

Generally, he's a very cool guy. Unfortunately, he is getting turbofucked by this voting poo poo.

Because you see, Senator Brian Schatz left for Hawaii (11 hour flight) after the Senate passed the funding bill, since Donnie said he'd sign it. Now, because Donnie Cheesebrain changed his mind and the House passed a version with wall funding, Senator Brian Schatz is needed back in Washington for the Friday vote knocking down the walled version. So, he has to get back on the 11-hour flight, again, because members of Congress have to be physically present to vote.

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075927173406482433

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1075942738162417664

I'm sorry, are you asking me to feel sorry for a member of Congress?

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


redneck nazgul posted:

The Man Who Would be Prince

Well, I liked it

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Same.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
It was a good movie.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Handsome Ralph posted:

You mean to say someone with a rose in their Twitter handle would take something completely out of context so they could dunk on the libs? Well no sir I don't believe it.

What does a rose in somebody's Twitter handle represent?


FAUXTON posted:

she's only got a 93% lifetime rating from the league of conservation voters, might as well have just hired ted cruz

She will still oppose Trump on all the things that are dear to his heart, and she's better at holding the caucus together than anybody else. AND she will be gone in four years at the latest. It's a transition period, and having pulled one of the most effective Speakers of the House to the left is a good achievement.

Edit:

https://twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1075909439176216577

Lol, great NATO ally.

Torrannor fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Dec 21, 2018

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Torrannor posted:

What does a rose in somebody's Twitter handle represent?


She will still oppose Trump on all the things that are dear to his heart, and she's better at holding the caucus together than anybody else. AND she will be gone in four years at the latest. It's a transition period, and having pulled one of the most effective Speakers of the House to the left is a good achievement.

Edit:

https://twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1075909439176216577

Lol, great NATO ally.

You know how AOC walks the walk

A rose is when you're just talking the talk. Or tweeting the talk as it were.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I thought bailing on the Kurds every decade was part of our ME strategy

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
The rose is a DSA thing I'm pretty sure

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Slim Pickens posted:

The rose is a DSA thing I'm pretty sure

From what I gather they're basically just cosplaying as dsa online.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

maffew buildings posted:

I thought bailing on the Kurds every decade was part of our ME strategy

Yeah but this time there's nothing stopping full on genocide

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008


Quitting and running the 24 hour news circuit sure is going to help!

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

Yeah but this time there's nothing stopping full on genocide

Oh how quick you are to handwave away the power of *squints real hard* bipartisan disapproval in Congress...ok yeah they're all going to be killed

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

McNally posted:

I'm sorry, are you asking me to feel sorry for a member of Congress?

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Vasudus posted:

I don't feel bad for members of congress having to deal with bullshit work requirements, like being told by your boss you have to come back to the office after you already planned a vacation. I just don't.

I generally agree with this sentiment but I once dated someone who was a staffer of his and it left me with the impression Schatz in particular is a really good dude so I'll feel *a little* bad for him.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I get that anyone that has followed Trump this far isn't going to be swayed

That said, seeing all this poo poo pan out with Mattis, who vets/AD absolutely revere as a god, yet they're still all:



just blows my mind. Idk whether to laugh or cry. They're gonna follow this dude to the ashes of America and still be going on about the emails and irrelevant poo poo Obama did

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



jim and i agree: Kurds gonna get hosed and that is fuckin gross and a continued stain on America.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Jarmak posted:

I generally agree with this sentiment but I once dated someone who was a staffer of his and it left me with the impression Schatz in particular is a really good dude so I'll feel *a little* bad for him.

He’s not a cosponsor of S. 339, so how good a dude can he really be?

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Slim Pickens posted:

The rose is a DSA thing I'm pretty sure

Yeah the rose is a DSA symbol although it obviously doesn't mean they are an actual DSA member if they have it or aren't if they don't. Basically just a way to signal to other people that you're a socialist. Like QAnon people using a red X or centrist dems using a donut...for some reason.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013




So what's the term for when you knew somebody was going to be lovely, but you couldn't foresee just how awful they'd pan out to be? Like milkshake duck on meth.

I don't know about those other poo poo fake news pages, but I have a couple of lousy coworkers who constantly shared stuff from the Right Wing News page, and it was reliably the most awful propaganda I'd seen on Facebook.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Arc Light posted:

So what's the term for when you knew somebody was going to be lovely, but you couldn't foresee just how awful they'd pan out to be? Like milkshake duck on meth.

.

Fredo

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Vasudus posted:

I don't feel bad for members of congress having to deal with bullshit work requirements, like being told by your boss you have to come back to the office after you already planned a vacation. I just don't.

Especially when the project they're working on isn't finished yet.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

I CAN HANDLE THING!! I'm SmARt! NOT LIKE EVERYONE SAYS, LIKE DUMB! I'M SMART AND I WANT RESPECT!!!

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


BigDave posted:

I CAN HANDLE THING!! I'm SmARt! NOT LIKE EVERYONE SAYS, LIKE DUMB! I'M SMART AND I WANT RESPECT!!!

You broke my heart

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Well the Kurds are hosed.

Apparently we're pulling out of Afghanistan too.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

Well the Kurds are hosed.

Apparently we're pulling out of Afghanistan too.

Partially. It's only going to be half.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.b32c784594f7

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Getting out of Afghanistan is a good thing.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Getting out of Afghanistan is a good thing.

Absolutely a good thing, but maybe with more planning than the morning poo poo with tweet machine in hand?

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
Anybody got a link to a write up to what exactly happens wrt those margin calls when the S&P hits 2420? Something about a trillion bucks in calls or something.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/1076085396818329600?s=21

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

maffew buildings posted:

I thought bailing on the Kurds every decade was part of our ME strategy

Genuinely don't know why anyone sticks their neck out for the US any more.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Very suspicious imo that he would just conveniently happen to be dead

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Getting out of Afghanistan is a good thing.

Yeah even if Trump is going to get a lot of innocents killed, spending more blood and treasure in Afghanistan is just going to breed more resentment, consume more and more of our resources, and continue to result in terrible human cost.

We need to get out. We lost the war, it's time to admit that and cut our losses.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

If there was a war we would never win, its Afghanistan. We might have had a chance to unite the country and accomplish something, had Shah Massoud not been killed right before the war.
We might have won had we been willing to negotiate.
We might have won if we reacted like the Israeli's did after Munich.
We might have won if we had spent more than a week determining our strategy beyond, "Kill Browns."
We might have had a chamce at victory had everything gone right.
But we didn't. We didn't learn from the history of that hard place, and when we do leave, we will be leaving with an ugly scar of not only another war lost, but a failure of the US to accomplish any real sustainable goals.
poo poo, I remember twlling people way back in 02 that if Alexander the Great was afraid of taking Afghanistan, followed by so many other expeditions, most notably the British and Russian, then we didn't have a chance, because we didn't learn enough from Vietnam.
I completely agree we should pull out. On our way out, we should be polite and deliver a case of MREs, an AK, and a "Hang in there" kitty poster, because it's going to go back to exactly what it was befoew we got there.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/presssec/status/1076124248484311040?s=21

This should be fun for all involved.

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