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General Dog posted:The Republic rotates the capitol location every few years because they don't want power to become too concentrated in one place. That's why you should concentrate your government and military within the planet-destroying technology.
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pospysyl posted:That's why you should concentrate your government and military within the planet-destroying technology. The NRA approves.
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Dec 19, 2018 23:20
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Lampsacus posted:There will 100% be a droid army helping the rag tag resistance in the next star wars. some of those droids will be prequel droids as a callback. but i wonder what other prequel callbacks there will be? JJ said he wants his movie to sum up all three trilogies so we'll at least see the galactic capital. or was that blown up? I get so confused. Where did the droids all go? Did they fly away to live their own lives like the cylons or something?
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Dec 20, 2018 01:11
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pospysyl posted:That's why you should concentrate your government and military within the planet-destroying technology. Those have their own tendency to explode, though.
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Dec 20, 2018 01:12
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banned from Starbucks posted:Where did the droids all go? Did they fly away to live their own lives like the cylons or something? They all went to live on a farm upstate, where they have plenty of room to run around.
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Dec 20, 2018 01:48
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banned from Starbucks posted:Where did the droids all go? Did they fly away to live their own lives like the cylons or something? Funnily enough, Hosnian Prime
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Dec 20, 2018 07:23
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banned from Starbucks posted:Where did the droids all go? Did they fly away to live their own lives like the cylons or something? In RotS they were given a "shutdown order" and presumably all just turned off.
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Dec 20, 2018 09:38
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Obviously they were never really alive, so they could just be turned off and on. The Emperor probably put them all in storage when he didn't need them any more. I imagine he would've started reactivating them for false-flag attacks and blaming it on the galactic deep state / globalist agenda if the Rebellion hadn't kicked off on schedule.
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Dec 20, 2018 09:59
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galagazombie posted:In RotS they were given a "shutdown order" and presumably all just turned off. Except some droids went "Hm...might be a Republic trick" and ignored it And then never showed up again even though they'd have made for one heck of a Big drat Heroes moment during the finale instead of SPACE WHAAAAAALES
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Dec 20, 2018 17:42
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Remake Hell in the Pacific with one battle droid and one clone trooper marooned on an otherwise deserted planet.
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Dec 20, 2018 17:46
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in rebels there's an enclave of battle droids that never shut off but i forget the entire plot exactly e:fb
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Dec 20, 2018 18:00
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:in rebels there's an enclave of battle droids that never shut off but i forget the entire plot exactly Ezra, Kanan, and Rex went to investigate and they were captured by the droids. Rex has PTSD. Eventually the Empire found them and attacks, so Ezra reasons that the droids need to help because the droids were fighting the Republic and the Republic is now the Empire. So they work together and went separate ways while escaping.
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Dec 20, 2018 18:23
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I still think its dumb the Clones in the mythical "Clone Wars" weren't clones of Jedi or whatever. On playgrounds around the world thats what kids all assumed Obi-Wan was talking about. The only innovative thing Lucas did was make the clones fight for the "Good Guys".
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Dec 20, 2018 19:37
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Mike N Eich posted:I still think its dumb the Clones in the mythical "Clone Wars" weren't clones of Jedi or whatever. On playgrounds around the world thats what kids all assumed Obi-Wan was talking about. Bring back stormtroopers with lightsabers you cowards  
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Mike N Eich posted:The only innovative thing Lucas did was make the clones fight for the "Good Guys". The good guys had droids.
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Mike N Eich posted:I still think its dumb the Clones in the mythical "Clone Wars" weren't clones of Jedi or whatever. On playgrounds around the world thats what kids all assumed Obi-Wan was talking about. It would have been more innovative to have done what everyone seemed to expect?
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Dec 20, 2018 20:33
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Wheat Loaf posted:I am hopeful that it will set the record straight on the Trade Federation by bringing them back but at the same time I think that it would continue to indulge in the mistaken belief that the Trade Federation were "villains". but they are slavers tho
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Dec 20, 2018 20:43
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kidkissinger posted:but they are slavers tho When is this established? Or are we talking about the droids?
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Here's something I'm a little fuzzy on- was Count Dooku making a good-faith effort to win the war? What was his end game; what was he expecting to get out of his collaboration with Palpatine/Sidious? Did they have an understanding that once Palpatine had acquired dictator-level powers, he'd make peace with the Separatists and Dooku would get his own corner of the galaxy to rule? Also was kidnapping Palpatine (before the beginning of Ep. 3) some ruse that they cooked up, or did Grevious just go and do it without asking anybody for permission?
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Dec 20, 2018 21:04
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Mike N Eich posted:I still think its dumb the Clones in the mythical "Clone Wars" weren't clones of Jedi or whatever. On playgrounds around the world thats what kids all assumed Obi-Wan was talking about. Kids assume a lot of stupid poo poo.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:06
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He’s wants to overthrow palatine. He explains it all in Attack of the Clones.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:07
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euphronius posted:He’s wants to overthrow palatine. I'm open to that interpretation, but is that what he explicitly tells Palpatine/Sidious when they hang out? Obviously each knows that the other is going to betray them at the first opportunity, but surely they've come to some agreement about the end of the war that they're both pretending they'll honor.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:11
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He asks oni wan to join him to overthrow the Sith.
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There were bad books going into the dooku/palps chess game in the old EU but since they were thrown out I assume it's back to being somewhat ambiguous
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I always assumed Palpatine didn't really clue Dooku in on the whole scheme (as evidenced by him, uh, letting him get killed early in ROTS) and Dooku was making a good faith attempt to win the war and was also making a good faith offer to Obi-Wan, though Christopher Lee kinda slept walked through that role so it didn't really come across as sincere. Palpatine obviously let himself get captured but I don't even know why. I guess to get Anakin closer to him but he already was getting closer to him anyway.
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euphronius posted:He asks oni wan to join him to overthrow the Sith. Yeah, while refusing to mention that he's currently working with the Sith Lord he mentions. He says he learned about the Sith Lord when the Viceroy of the Trade Federation came to him and told him everything. He doesn't tell Obi-Wan, "And I have worked my way closer to the Sith Lord to bring him down." which might have helped convince Obi-Wan to join him, because it would explain some of the shifty things he's been doing. He also says he will petition immediately to have Obi-Wan's release, and then is the one presiding over his execution. There is no reason to take Dooku at face value during that scene.
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thrawn527 posted:Yeah, while refusing to mention that he's currently working with the Sith Lord he mentions. He says he learned about the Sith Lord when the Viceroy of the Trade Federation came to him and told him everything. He doesn't tell Obi-Wan, "And I have worked my way closer to the Sith Lord to bring him down." which might have helped convince Obi-Wan to join him, because it would explain some of the shifty things he's been doing. He initially says he'll petition for his release, but then Obi-Wan blows off his offer of joining forces to overthrow Sidious, which causes him to decide to refrain from intervening because the Jedi are just as blind as ever. "It may take some time to secure your release," he says sarcastically as he leaves. Dooku knows that the Confederacy leaders don't want anything to do with Sidious after he got them in deep poo poo on Naboo, so he can't admit to them that he is close to Sidious. The conversation in the cell is being monitored - he can only say things that they know he knows, which is that Darth Sidious controls the Senate. He does not know the nature of that control, nor that Sidious is the Supreme Chancellor. He knows that the plan is to bring down the Republic from within by playing both sides of the war, and he then intends to off Sidious once his goal (the independence of the Separatists) is secured. So yes, I'd say he's making a good-faith effort to win the war, albeit using conspiratorial strategies that he can't reveal to his subordinates.
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But Dooku actually knows that Palpatine and Sidious are the same person, right?
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General Dog posted:But Dooku actually knows that Palpatine and Sidious are the same person, right? Yes of course.
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Bongo Bill posted:Dooku knows that the Confederacy leaders don't want anything to do with Sidious after he got them in deep poo poo on Naboo, so he can't admit to them that he is close to Sidious. They confer with Sidious in ROTS before Vader kills all of them. Dooku openly talks about his master in AOTC.
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General Dog posted:But Dooku actually knows that Palpatine and Sidious are the same person, right? The look Dooku gives Palpatine in ROTS after he says "Do it" is darkly funny because Dooku knows what's up and realizes how much he's getting screwed over. It doesn't work at all if he thinks Palpatine is just the chancellor.
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Flying Zamboni posted:The look Dooku gives Palpatine in ROTS after he says "Do it" is darkly funny because Dooku knows what's up and realizes how much he's getting screwed over. It doesn't work at all if he thinks Palpatine is just the chancellor. Yeah, if there's any doubt before that pretty much settles it. My thought on Palpatine is basically that he probably has contingency plans for either outcome of the Clone Wars. He's a master opportunist.
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Hm, you're right. I had forgotten how exactly that goes down. He is fully in on the "run both sides of the war" plan - but he still can't let on to his subordinates that he knows, and the plan requires putting on a good show of a war.
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Dooku's offer to work with Obi-Wan to take down Sidious is genuine, the unspoken caveat however is "then we will be the Sith Master and Apprentice."
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AndyElusive posted:Kids assume a lot of stupid poo poo. Yeah, like droids being alive.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Yeah, like droids being alive. That is indeed some dumb poo poo. That droids are people, however, is not.
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It's been a while since I posted in this thread. So Palpatine's officially confirmed to be Anakin's baby daddy. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-anakin-father-emperor/
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That's another Legends EU carry-over, isn't it? Or was that some sort of obiter dictum from Lucas back in the day? I don't remember but I feel like he's said something about that before.
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It's heavily heavily implied in the prequel trilogy
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Detective No. 27 posted:It's been a while since I posted in this thread. The artist said not to take that scene literally Force Vision and all that Vinylshadow fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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