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Black Robe posted:Because deep ocean wildlife is awesome and pants-shittingly terrifying and we've got no idea what most of it is and there are still places we haven't explored yet. I'd like to see another game explore that slightly more seriously. (But only slightly because I'm still enjoying the goofiness.).
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Depends on the fangame author, they're not all terrible.
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Dec 20, 2018 14:39
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This may be Beat Up-ing a dead Ponyta, but Insurgency actually feels like a fairly solid, if kiiiinda dumb, pokemon game. And hell, solid but dumb is pretty much Ash's personality too. So that's just fine by me. There's edge, but it's not THEWORLDISBLACKWAAAAAA - just enough to be snark-worthy. It's dumb, it knows it's dumb, and it's OK with its own dumbness.
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Dec 20, 2018 14:48
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I'm just disappointed we didn't get a boss fight against Tentacruelthulhu. Also, it still bothers me that none of these cults act like cults. Up until this update, the Abyssal Cult seemed at least vaguely cultish (although not really like a cult centered around Kyogre but rather a generic doomsday cult whose doomsday device happens to be a Pokémon); then it was revealed that their end goal was just world domination after all. There is really no excuse to not just call them 'Neo Team Aqua' or something; in fact, they'd be better than the original Team Aqua since their leader actually has a somewhat rational motivation for flooding the planet. The plot up to this point feels as if the whole cult thing was one of the earliest ideas in the writing process, and when it became clear that cults really don't fit with the camp-edgy feel the game is going for, the developers had already written themselves into a corner. Carpator Diei fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 17:38
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Carpator Diei posted:There is really no excuse to not just call them 'Neo Team Aqua' or something; in fact, they'd be better than the original Team Aqua since their leader actually has a somewhat rational motivation for flooding the planet. Also, they actually use predominantly water Pokemon. 
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Dec 20, 2018 17:50
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quote:quote:There were so many routes to take with a super-similar plot, but them growing pokeparts because of the exp virus was not one of the good ones
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Dec 20, 2018 18:04
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Resistance is futile, we will add your EV totals to our own.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:25
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I'm gonna be disappointed if we don't get to fight/catch a Pokecuthulu. I mean, seriously, I feel like that's where this dumb, stupid, snark-worthy plot is headed towards.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:31
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I, for one, can't wait to see if/when Nora sees what happened to Damian and what she's gonna do to try and deflect blame for almost certainly being the reason why Damian is now part pokerus. (Hopefully she takes it as a sign she made a huge mistake but i also wanna see denial because man Nora you really hosed it up didn't you)
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Dec 20, 2018 19:38
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I'll admit, I actually felt a thing when it came to seeing Damien Pokerus'd. He was our tagalong pal who just wants to do the right thing. And I find a tad more likeable than Nora. Let's hope he doesn't get too far gone? 
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Dec 20, 2018 20:02
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This is the first time a "mature and edgy" fangame made me feel bad about a character. Damian didn't deserve any of this and I hope he returns to normal
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Dec 20, 2018 20:34
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To be honest, at this point, I think nobody would even have noticed the "mature and edgy" story if it wasn't part of the thread title. I've seen edgier episodes of Sailor Moon.
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Dec 20, 2018 20:39
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So are we ever going to see these wild strong deep sea pokemon or no?
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Dec 20, 2018 21:01
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Grand Gigas posted:So are we ever going to see these wild strong deep sea pokemon or no? We probably will. ...In Reborn. As an especially awful PULSE fight.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:19
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5 bucks says aqua woman helps detoxify Borg-boy from the afterlife, in some weird dream sequence or hallucination.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:53
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I want their to be a post game quest where you meet a cured/in control Damien and discover that Audrey survived do to being changed due to him accidentally infecting her. Then you and Damien team up and fight of a bunch of overpowered Pokemon to get her back for him. Then she's imprisoned but for her crimes but Damien visits her.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:51
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Cardiovorax posted:To be honest, at this point, I think nobody would even have noticed the "mature and edgy" story if it wasn't part of the thread title. I've seen edgier episodes of Sailor Moon.
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Dec 20, 2018 23:45
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Yeah, if this had been that game, Kyogre wouldn't have tossed Audrey into the ocean and jumped in after - it would've given us an animated closeup of chewing her up instead, with plenty of blood splatters. This is outright tasteful by any reasonable comparison.
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Dec 20, 2018 23:57
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Cardiovorax posted:Yeah, if this had been that game, Kyogre wouldn't have tossed Audrey into the ocean and jumped in after - it would've given us an animated closeup of chewing her up instead, with plenty of blood splatters. This is outright tasteful by any reasonable comparison. ...maybe I'm misremembering, but I think you're highly overestimating the graphical abilities of "that game".
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Dec 21, 2018 00:55
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No, they actually did something kinda like that for the ghost gym. It was exactly as dumb as you'd expect it to be. In the end, it's really not that difficult on a technical level. A sprite is a sprite, really: have a regular version of Kyogre and have one with a blood mouth and human bits sticking out. Make three slightly different versions, loop through them to signify chewing motion. Remove Audrey sprite, replace Kyogre with chewing Kyogre. Replace the surrounding floor tiles with bloodied ones. It's fairly simple, it's just also really stupid. That entire scene could've been so much worse in a game with less self-restraint. I like that Insurgence knows better than to even go there. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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Dec 21, 2018 00:59
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Plus the visual imagery of someone getting body slammed into the ocean is kinda hilarious, save for the whole dying part. TheKirbs posted:I want their to be a post game quest where you meet a cured/in control Damien and discover that Audrey survived do to being changed due to him accidentally infecting her. I can imagine him visiting her in prison and getting a lesson on the ins and outs of tax evasion and world annihilation from her.
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Dec 21, 2018 01:38
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Haifisch posted:
It's probably just "Poké-Satan... IN THE MIRROR!" Red John posted:5 bucks says aqua woman helps detoxify Borg-boy from the afterlife, in some weird dream sequence or hallucination. He is associated with Shaymin, who does purification stuff. Usually of pollution, but it might work at a stretch? The Golux fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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Dec 21, 2018 08:33
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So she's dead-dead, not just assumed-dead? Because it seems the events go "Deoxys-hybrids show up, Kyogre knocks her into the water, Kyogre goes into the water on top of her and flees" and then we're told she died without seeing a body. I'm not doubting it, I'm just wanting to confirm that she is dead-dead.
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Dec 21, 2018 15:05
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The game acts like she's dead-dead, because there really aren't too many ways to survive being tossed out of an underwater base by an angry super-whale... but I'm deferring judgment until later. This game is purestrain anime. No way am I going to assume she never shows up again before I actually see a body.
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Cardiovorax posted:The game acts like she's dead-dead, because there really aren't too many ways to survive being tossed out of an underwater base by an angry super-whale... but I'm deferring judgment until later. This game is purestrain anime. No way am I going to assume she never shows up again before I actually see a body. Said super-whale is a Demi-god, so it’s possible that it saved her for some reason or other once it was free.
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Geostomp posted:Said super-whale is a Demi-god, so it’s possible that it saved her for some reason or other once it was free.
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Cardiovorax posted:Hello, fellow cultist! Listen to me making sound-words with my meat-mouth, like perfectly normal cultists do! You know, it's entirely possible this is a Man Who Was Thursday scenario where aside from a handful of people at the very top the cult is composed mostly of people who got roped into it one way or another and are trying not to out themselves and die.
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Glazius posted:You know, it's entirely possible this is a Man Who Was Thursday scenario where aside from a handful of people at the very top the cult is composed mostly of people who got roped into it one way or another and are trying not to out themselves and die.
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Just caught up with this thread and all the dumb stat talk and community jargon in the script makes me want a pokemon game that doesn't show the player any stats (except maybe HP) until you get some pokedex upgrades that actually allow in-depth analysis of your electric rat. Like early game there's nothing, then you just get vague bars, then natures, then near the end (like, eighth badge) you can finally get your  on and start number mongering.Shuffle up all the stats from official to keep you guessing and it could really be a "use your favorites" thing like the franchise has been trying to push since the beginning. Oh also, deoxys people are weird and I don't get how Damian got infected.
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MR. J posted:Just caught up with this thread and all the dumb stat talk and community jargon in the script makes me want a pokemon game that doesn't show the player any stats (except maybe HP) until you get some pokedex upgrades that actually allow in-depth analysis of your electric rat. ...That could actually be a pretty neat game, though knowing nature might be good too. I think they said Damian got infected when Malde teleported him away but I'm not sure.
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MR. J posted:Oh also, deoxys people are weird and I don't get how Damian got infected. The actual details don't matter, what it will ultimately boil down to is that the protagonist didn't friendship hard enough at him when he needed it most so we'll need to beat the evil out of him later. And then all will be forgiven even if Damian directly or indirectly messed up a bunch of people's stuff because who cares about NPCs, Power of Friendship!
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Damian just got grabbed by Grandpa Thing when he escaped. Damian apparently got the Deoxys Flu back in the day and since Grandpa Thing is still actively infected by Pokerus by default, he probably just had to spit at him to make the infection take. Kind of like regular flu.
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Cardiovorax posted:Damian just got grabbed by Grandpa Thing when he escaped. Damian apparently got the Deoxys Flu back in the day and since Grandpa Thing is still actively infected by Pokerus by default, he probably just had to spit at him to make the infection take. Kind of like regular flu.
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Commander Keene posted:Since the Deoxys Flu apparently happened like 50 years ago and Damien is about 1/4 that age, it seems likely that he inherited it from his mother, who likely got it from his grandmother. The Pokerus "activator" likely came from Malde, though. I keep forgetting when this game actually happens. When are we again, in relation to the latest official game?
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Dec 22, 2018 20:06
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It keeps referencing main game stuff as things that happened A Really Long Time Ago(at least long enough for everyone involved to be dead by now). Not sure about exact dates, but just assume it's ~100 years later and it's probably fine.
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ChrisBTY posted:Audrey's "I wanna use Kyogre to command an army of eldrich Deep-Sea abominations" is better than the plans of most mainline Pokemon Teams. I'm envisioning a lot of Water/Dark dual types.
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Haifisch posted:It keeps referencing main game stuff as things that happened A Really Long Time Ago(at least long enough for everyone involved to be dead by now). Not sure about exact dates, but just assume it's ~100 years later and it's probably fine.
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Dec 22, 2018 20:28
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Cardiovorax posted:I keep forgetting when this game actually happens. When are we again, in relation to the latest official game? Audrey said RSE's events were 30 years before the start of this game in her monologue, so that probably helps at least.
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Cardiovorax posted:Oh yeah, they did say that. What's-her-name is Deoxys-positive herself by way of inheriting the genetic markers from Grandpa Thing. Dragonatrix posted:Audrey said RSE's events were 30 years before the start of this game in her monologue, so that probably helps at least. Commander Keene fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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Well, that resolves that. Damian is still too young to be a first-generation infectee, just not "so then where's the flying cars" too young.
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