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SimonCat posted:Is the sticking point the 60 votes needed for cloture? Isn't the Senate able to change the requirement by a simple majority vote? They could have also easily gotten the funding through reconciliation , if there were 50 votes in the senate for the dumb wall. Edit: Zonkey tax 
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dalstrs posted:Couldn't we frame this whole shutdown in the same way they framed that old household budget thing? They want to spend billions to build a fence to keep the neighbor kids from raking our leave while the sidewalk is crumbling and the plumbing is poisoning us. 
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Dec 22, 2018 17:05
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Rust Martialis posted:Stop signing your posts  In other news, Trump wants to fire the fed chairman for raising rates. He seems to be blaming the fed for the stock market falling, because of course.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:05
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Man him trying to fire the Fed and the ensuing court battle will be such a giant clusterfuck. Frankly I welcome it because he’ll lose.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:13
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Slowpoke! posted:
Gotta find a convenient scapegoat. He is NEVER wrong and everything going wrong is the liberal’s/women’s/gay’s/Mexican’s/Establishment’s fault. And his base eats it up until he steps on the military toes... him firing Mad Dog actually seems to have done some damage to him.
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Ague Proof posted:I've said this before but if Trump looked like Ryan Gosling and spoke like William F Buckley with everything else the same, it wouldn't work. His appeal relies on being someone who is not obviously better than you - he's ruder than his base, weirder than his base, and more repulsive physically than his base. He also has this pathetic, needy quality that's really obvious. He's rich and can do what he likes, but because of those other factors it's not something you can entirely envy. Pure id. I'm not wild about being me, but I am really, really glad I'm not Donald J Trump. There is some small measure of comfort knowing that he is, in many ways, his own punishment
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SimonCat posted:Is the sticking point the 60 votes needed for cloture? Isn't the Senate able to change the requirement by a simple majority vote? Yes, though there are a few other problems: * Not all Republican Senators are in town * 2 - Flake and Corker- Karen it clear they’re not interested in voting for it * lots of Republican Senators have said they won’t vote to remove the filibuster rule
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Slowpoke! posted:
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Discendo Vox posted:It took some doing, but I tracked it down with "crimes crimes crimes" tweet, for future reference. Thank you both so much!
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Dec 22, 2018 17:16
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https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1076507465313730561 Let them fight.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:17
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Tibalt posted:Here's a puzzler for you! Trump can't fire the Fed Reserve chairman, but if he still tries, it's that enough to spark a credit crunch and market correction? Almost certainly.
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Slowpoke! posted:
firing the fed chairman will surely turn the stock market around
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https://twitter.com/tomtomorrow/status/1076480206913916930
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Dec 22, 2018 17:20
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This is the best thing to wake up to.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:22
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I assume the firing the fed chairman stuff has to do with the DOW dropping like a rock? Firing the fed chairman would certainly be just the thing to restore confidence in the market and American institutions
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Dec 22, 2018 17:23
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I assume the firing the fed chairman stuff has to do with the DOW dropping like a rock? Firing the fed chairman would certainly be just the thing to restore confidence in the market and American institutions that story came out late last night so would be unrelated to any of last week's losses also: lol https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1076512982786555904
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Dec 22, 2018 17:24
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Spiffster posted:Gotta find a convenient scapegoat. He is NEVER wrong and everything going wrong is the liberal’s/women’s/gay’s/Mexican’s/Establishment’s fault. My hope is that Mattis’ timeline is based on some agreement with the GOP to support impeachment after the new house is seated.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:25
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Did they check to see if there's a guard stationed on the door to the shitter?
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Dec 22, 2018 17:26
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eke out posted:that story came out late last night so would be unrelated to any of last week's losses Presumably they mean swapped cause and effect. Donald T wants to fire the fed chair because of poor market performance (which he believes is spurred by the chair's policy), not that poor market performance was caused by the specter of firing the fed chair.
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Jealous Cow posted:My hope is that Mattis’ timeline is based on some agreement with the GOP to support impeachment after the new house is seated. Every Republican Senator is a coward who will never support impeachment lol
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Dec 22, 2018 17:28
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Business as usual... https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1076513991348891648
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eke out posted:that story came out late last night so would be unrelated to any of last week's losses Thinking about Trump being in the oval office... I can't wait to read his letter to the next president, if he keeps the tradition
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Eeyo posted:Presumably they mean swapped cause and effect. Donald T wants to fire the fed chair because of poor market performance (which he believes is spurred by the chair's policy), not that poor market performance was caused by the specter of firing the fed chair. oh i misread that - yeah definitely, he's mad because of raising interest rates anyone curious about why trump can't do this can click on my previous posts, i talked about a couple cases last night that discuss why the Fed is an independent agency and you can't fire heads of independent agencies just because you don't like them
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Eeyo posted:Presumably they mean swapped cause and effect. Donald T wants to fire the fed chair because of poor market performance (which he believes is spurred by the chair's policy), not that poor market performance was caused by the specter of firing the fed chair. yeah, this. Though the specter of firing the fed chair almost certainly will cause future poor market performance as well
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1076364120151257089 I love that she’s still trolling him. I really hope Trump takes her advice and gets up on national TV, ideally today or tomorrow so it’s played over and over through Christmas, to defend this shutdown.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:33
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Spaced God posted:Hey everyone now the shutdown actually might kill someone This is honestly one of the worst parts of shutdowns to me. During a previous shutdown, a pregnant elk was killed in Zion by a poacher. https://www.rgj.com/story/life/outdoors/2018/01/26/poacher-kills-pregnant-elk-zion-during-government-closure/1068640001/ Yellowstone has its own share of people seeking to use public lands in a selfish way: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.86b849dc17a5 Public lands are one of the most positive characteristics of America, and it's great that the public is able to easily access them. Unfortunately, there are some real selfish assholes out there that use shutdowns as an opportunity to break the rules meant to protect natural resources for us all.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076512233897771010 https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076515352249597954 Lol lots of dumb takes today.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:36
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Skippy McPants posted:Did they check to see if there's a guard stationed on the door to the shitter? No, but it is occupied. The Acting Attorney General is in there with a toolbox.
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heyitsamanda posted:I love that she’s still trolling him. I really hope Trump takes her advice and gets up on national TV, ideally today or tomorrow so it’s played over and over through Christmas, to defend this shutdown. He unfollowed her already. Seriously.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Lol lots of dumb takes today. who amongst us can forget when we sent troops to syria in 2011
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I assume the firing the fed chairman stuff has to do with the DOW dropping like a rock? Firing the fed chairman would certainly be just the thing to restore confidence in the market and American institutions
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Dick Trauma posted:Business as usual... 
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theflyingorc posted:Thinking about Trump being in the oval office... "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T HURT ME, I'LL GIVE YOU THE BEST THINGS." is the most coherent sentence as it begins to ramble on into not words, smudges of strange substances and mouth/slobber marks. Also he will have eaten at least 3 of them, dictated to other people or forgetting that he ate not 2 seconds ago. The most legible version will be the final presidential tweet that they keep in a phone they took off him. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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heyitsamanda posted:I love that she’s still trolling him. I really hope Trump takes her advice and gets up on national TV, ideally today or tomorrow so it’s played over and over through Christmas, to defend this shutdown. Shea not trolling she’s trying to influence his actions
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I’m still betting that Trump backs off of withdrawing from Syria. Literally no one around him aside from probably Miller wants him to do it.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m still betting that Trump backs off of withdrawing from Syria. Literally no one around him aside from probably Miller wants him to do it. Too public now.
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Dec 22, 2018 18:09
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Levitate posted:Shea not trolling she’s You just know that he is still reading her tweets even if he unfollowed her. The thing that blows my mind about the whole shut-down is it really looks like both parties sat trump down, said "look you're not getting a wall for christmas, lets just fund the govt so theres no stupid shutdown and everyone can go take a few weeks off" and trump was a-ok with that. So the senate passed a normal spending bill, and then fox news had a projectile vomiting session about the whole thing and trump immediately flipped to "not going to sign". I guess I'm saying I think fox news should be shut down and whats-his-face not allowed to run a media company anymore.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Too public now. Which means all of the Fox News shows will spend hours telling him that it would be a bad idea and that he’ll be blamed when it goes to poo poo.
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ZypherIM posted:You just know that he is still reading her tweets even if he unfollowed her. We should probably make every share holder of Fox, including Disney, pay government employees a big big bonus to the tune of several hundred thousand to each person.
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