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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/1076512948598632448 What is he even talking about? The shutdown already started.
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Torrannor posted:If I were American, and dreaming about constitutional amendments, I would look at the system of directly elected Representatives that massively favor rural regions and states. hence abolish the senate is a real good start.
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Godholio posted:What is he even talking about? The shutdown already started. He's also bullshitting. There's no Marine guard outside the White House, so Donnie ain't there.
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Torrannor posted:I wonder if Trump would accept DACA legislation in exchange for the wall. Late to the party but Trump literally turned down a Wall for DACA deal like 9 months lol. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/19/border-wall-democrats-respond-470687
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facialimpediment posted:He's also bullshitting. There's no Marine guard outside the White House, so Donnie ain't there. What the hell...what a dumb thing to lie about. That's one of the more baffling things to me right now, and I can't believe I'm saying that. Torrannor posted:If I were American, and dreaming about constitutional amendments, I would look at the system of directly elected Representatives that massively favor rural regions and states. The senate is supposed to be semi- to professional statesmen balancing a lookout for the nation as a whole and their specific state, vs the representatives that are aimed more towards their local districts. It's all fun and games trying to pick the version that supports you today, when you keep forgetting that demographics do shift from time to time. DoktorLoken posted:lol wait he thinks we've been in Syria dealing with ISIL for 7 years? Operation Inherent Resolve didn't start until 2014-2015. Just  if he's actually talking about some black spec ops poo poo that was actually well-concealed.
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Godholio posted:Just You don't have to be a military or political genius to figure that the US has some fingers in every military conflict around the world at every stage, but yeah usually the President doesn't acknowledge that fact.
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Publicly financed campaigns. Democratic elections are *THE* defining feature of a democracy. Maybe nationalize that poo poo in the interest of protecting it from the influence of capital, and letting the representatives do their actual job instead of the current out-sourcing of legislation drafting to lobbyists while they spend their days on the phone asking for money from donors.
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bird food bathtub posted:Publicly financed campaigns. Democratic elections are *THE* defining feature of a democracy. Maybe nationalize that poo poo in the interest of protecting it from the influence of capital, and letting the representatives do their actual job instead of the current out-sourcing of legislation drafting to lobbyists while they spend their days on the phone asking for money from donors. This is it. Our entire system of elections benefits the rich and is why politicians are so firmly entrenched.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:This is it. Our entire system of elections benefits the rich and is why politicians are so firmly entrenched. I still think gerrymandering and the non-democratic Senate and EC are worse regarding this.
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It's pretty low on the list of "poo poo that's wrong with the country" but personally I'd like to see tolls on primary interstate facilities (bridges and tunnels included) to go away forever. Tolls are an extreme pain in the rear end and don't encourage the best kinds of development or commuter travel. I also want major restrictions / caps on corporations being able to own/collect tolls on transportation and utility infrastructure. Correct me if I'm way off base here, it just seems like there's extremely shady poo poo going on with Public Private Partnerships where I live in VA. For example, the state being contractually bound to not expand bridges/travel lanes on I-95 without writing the express lane tolling company a check for "lost revenue". It's nuts.
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egyptian rat race posted:For example, the state being contractually bound to not expand bridges/travel lanes on I-95 without writing the express lane tolling company a check for "lost revenue". It's nuts. This is what makes it clear that the motivations behind tolls are wrong. It's not about providing the public a service at lower cost, it's purely about funneling money into the company.
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Another new rule: when the government shuts down, mandatory call of the house. Every representative must report to the capitol under threat of arrest until a new budget is adopted. Then bar the doors. They can only leave when they do their job. Also confine the president to the west wing. No government, no golf.
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Basically we should nationalize the poo poo out of everything we've sold off the last 40 years
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Keep the Senate but restrict its powers to things in which the union functions as a single body, like declaring war, admitting new members, creating holidays, and ratifying treaties. Decrease the size of congressional districts, thereby increasing the number of representatives from smaller states and making elections hyper-local, rather than nationalized, allowing smaller states to vote in a bloc with representatives from bigger states that have similar challenges. This would offset their loss of power in the Senate, while preventing Wyoming from being able to veto funding for mass transit projects in states that need it. psydude fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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As Nero Danced posted:Another new rule: when the government shuts down, mandatory call of the house. Every representative must report to the capitol under threat of arrest until a new budget is adopted. Then bar the doors. They can only leave when they do their job. Perhaps this is news to you, but other countries usually don't/can't have government shutdowns. In the most extreme cases, like in Westminster systems, losing the budget vote ("loss of supply") is the same as a vote of no confidence, and either requires forming a new government coalition if there are more than two parties in parliament, or fresh elections. But even when losing the budget vote doesn't end the government, in nearly all countries spending just continues on last year's level instead of lapsing completely. Perhaps consider updating your political system for the 21st century. Or even the 20th century, since the US was the outlier regarding government shutdowns even then. Also, why the hell are there months long gaps between elections and the newly elected people taking their seats? Why are the people who lost elections still allowed to pass major laws? The US constitution was a ground breaking document when it was designed, but it had some major bugs that later adopters of democracy could avoid. You're unlucky that you never got around to fixing these bugs.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Basically we should nationalize the poo poo out of everything we've sold off the last 40 years I literally went to grad school for capitalism and in econ they were like "okay let's teach you the real poo poo" and showed how insanely stupid privatising a utility is.
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Best Friends posted:I literally went to grad school for capitalism and in econ they were like "okay let's teach you the real poo poo" and showed how insanely stupid privatising a utility is. When I hear the phrase "shareholder value" I reach for my pistol
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Been a while since I've read pornography. I'd bold sections, but then I'd be bolding the whole goddamn thing. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/22/us/politics/trump-two-years.html quote:WASHINGTON — When President Trump grows frustrated with advisers during meetings, which is not an uncommon occurrence, he sits back in his chair, crosses his arms and scowls. Often he erupts. “Freaking idiots!” he calls his aides. Except he uses a more pungent word than “freaking.” The President of the United States literally can't be happy. He also can't understand the connection between calling his advisors loving idiots (which might not be wrong!) and complaining that all of his original advisors are gone. 
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Edit: ^ Stultus Maximus posted:I still think gerrymandering and the non-democratic Senate and EC are worse regarding this. Really? I get why people (most of whom live in large metros) hate the EC, but the senate is supposed to be slower to react to change. That's a feature, not a bug. The problem is that most of the senate is horrifically corrupt and openly for sale. Publicly financed campaigns (and harsh penalties for the donation equivalent of a straw purchase) would drastically reduce the impact of the campaign donors that have been writing our legislation for the past few years. The senate hasn't always been this broken, it was a slow descent until it went off the loving cliff after Right to Life and Citizens United. As Nero Danced posted:Another new rule: when the government shuts down, mandatory call of the house. Every representative must report to the capitol under threat of arrest until a new budget is adopted. Then bar the doors. They can only leave when they do their job. I like this. Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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Oh god this is so good but not nearly what he deserves.
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Trump should pray that he be remembered as fondly as Hoover.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Trump should pray that he be remembered as fondly as Hoover. The Trump dam will hold back a ocean of piss
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CBJSprague24 posted:Term limits on Congresscritters. Term limits increase the power of lobbying and special interest groups. 
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Godholio posted:Edit: ^ The Senate is supposed to be slower to react to change, but for a while now it's just been "The House, except with longer terms and vastly over-represented rural whites"
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Trump should pray that he be remembered as fondly as Hoover. Great Depression Hoover: bad Post-WWI and Post-WWII Food Aid Hoover: very good
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FBI Hoover: bad but more interesting.
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Seriously Trump is still only the second-worst president but that's only because it's a lot of work to beat what the worst president got up to.
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Vacuum Hoover: Sucks bigly
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Seriously Trump is still only the second-worst president but that's only because it's a lot of work to beat what the worst president got up to. Ok, you piqued my interest, who?
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Well we're not naming any recycling centers after him, Fred Durst has first stab at naming rights to those.
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Flikken posted:Ok, you piqued my interest, who? My wife and I were having a conversation about this. I’d be interested as well.
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Jackson committed a genocide so that's my bet
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Flikken posted:Ok, you piqued my interest, who? Carter, he's history's greatest monster
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Blind Rasputin posted:My wife and I were having a conversation about this. I’d be interested as well. My money is on Andrew Johnson.
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Flikken posted:Ok, you piqued my interest, who? The man who fiddled with the Supreme Court in a way that makes Kavanaugh look minor and who let traitors waltz into Army and Navy bases and arm themselves with federal property that they used to kill thousands American soldiers so they could keep their fellow human beings enslaved. Stand up, James Buchanan, you doughfaced sack of poo poo. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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BigDave posted:My money is on Andrew Johnson. What about the guy that ended reconstruction? Hayes?
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Whatever this foreign country-owned company is, they're absolutely refusing to take the L. https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1076593314382651394?s=19 They already lost at the the appellate level (usual 3-judge panel), then the full appellate court denied them.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The man who fiddled with the Supreme Court in a way that makes Kavanaugh look minor and who let traitors waltz into Army and Navy bases and arm themselves with federal property that they used to kill thousands American soldiers so they could keep their fellow human beings enslaved. Yeah unless the country actively enters a civil war, it's hard to beat Buchanan.
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