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im on the net me boys posted:Could anyone in this thread repost the weirdly racist Perry Bible Fellowship comic from earlier this year? The artist deleted it and I can't figure out how far back it was posted in the thread. Do you mean the one with Slur, the "problematic" superhero, or are you thinking of a different one?
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im on the net me boys posted:Could anyone in this thread repost the weirdly racist Perry Bible Fellowship comic from earlier this year? The artist deleted it and I can't figure out how far back it was posted in the thread. This one? http://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-offenders/
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Dec 23, 2018 19:32
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No it wasn't that one, I can't find it but all I can recall is it kinda seemed like something he didn't fully think through the implications of. And after people were like "UMMMMM" he deleted it.
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Dec 23, 2018 19:39
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It's this one.
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Dec 23, 2018 19:39
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Hadn't even known of that one. Oof.
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Dec 23, 2018 19:46
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guest written by tinsley
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Dec 23, 2018 19:51
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It's just a Scorpion and the Frog variant.
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Dec 23, 2018 19:57
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 Garrison posted:When Ann Coulter pitched her fit about the lack of progress made toward building a wall on our southern border, I understood her frustration because I felt the same way.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:05
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Zesty posted:It's this one. This is kinda meh as far as quasi offensive comics go, the parody of the Defenders was worse imo.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:11
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:It's just a Scorpion and the Frog variant. Yeah, but I've always found that story pretty awful.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:22
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Lightning Knight posted:This is kinda meh as far as quasi offensive comics go, the parody of the Defenders was worse imo. It's literally about an alligator. He doesn't do political cartoons. He's not a secret Nazi (AFAIK).
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Dec 23, 2018 20:35
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Lightning Knight posted:This is kinda meh as far as quasi offensive comics go, the parody of the Defenders was worse imo.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:39
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Cpt_Obvious posted:It's literally about an alligator. He doesn't do political cartoons. He's not a secret Nazi (AFAIK). Death of the Author. You may know the PBF author isn't a secret Nazi, but Stonetoss could share this exact comic and mean it that way. Hell, Tinsley has literally done this exact joke about dinosaurs a hundred time.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:40
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Lightning Knight posted:This is kinda meh as far as quasi offensive comics go, the parody of the Defenders was worse imo. Honestly it probably only parses to me as a racist allegory because Tinsley has made literally that same comic unironically as a racist allegory like ten times
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Dec 23, 2018 20:41
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Cpt_Obvious posted:It's literally about an alligator. He doesn't do political cartoons. He's not a secret Nazi (AFAIK).
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Dec 23, 2018 20:42
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Pilchenstein posted:Obviously I can't say what my reaction to it would have been if I wasn't aware of how shitheads operate online but the alligator one was much worse in my eyes because it's literally just a neo-nazi talking point. I'd like to hope it wasn't intended as such but "dangerous minorities won't spare the foolish liberals who defended them against Oh I didn’t know that was an actual talking point rip. My eyes glaze over when I see Tinsley half the time tbh. At least the author took it down and thus presumably heard it wasn’t ok.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:43
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The Offenders one is still up and terrible.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:46
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Jurgan posted:Death of the Author. You may know the PBF author isn't a secret Nazi, but Stonetoss could share this exact comic and mean it that way. Hell, Tinsley has literally done this exact joke about dinosaurs a hundred time. It could be read has having two opposite meanings. 1) Anthropomorphic animals are a poor metaphor for diversity and stereotyping, because unlike with human races animals actually do have very significant biological and behavioral differences. 2) Human races actually do have significant biological and behavioral differences, and therefore anthropomorphic animals are a good metaphor for diversity and stereotyping. One rejects the practice of using wildly different animals as analogues for human ethnicity, the other accepts it but turns the moral lesson on its head. I don't imagine the PBF author spends their life immersed in far-right rhetoric so they probably meant the former, stonetoss would mean the latter
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Dec 23, 2018 20:49
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Pants Donkey posted:The Offenders one is still up and terrible. Yeah that one is honestly terrible.
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Dec 23, 2018 20:50
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Troops coming home, in a box.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:09
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Dec 23, 2018 21:16
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Fallen Hamprince posted:It could be read has having two opposite meanings. Or the third option: no metaphor, it’s just funny to subvert expectations in a fairly predictable way.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:20
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BonHair posted:Or the third option: no metaphor, it’s just funny to subvert expectations in a fairly predictable way. Yeah I doubt it’s meant to have any real meaning, PBF is a Rorschach test in many ways. That said, they did a better version of that joke already with the T. rex teacher eating his student for misbehaving.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:22
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Pants Donkey posted:But the thrust of the joke is “actually stereotypes are true” which is not great even if you intended on being read at face value. Sometimes a joke really is just a joke. Though this is the politoons thread so I guess we're not used to that.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:30
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I can't see a date on it but the Offenders comic, as I recall, came from around 2013, I think? Back when "problematic" was first gaining ground and making fun of "SJWs" was just kind of the cool thing to do amongst internet funnymen. It's weird to remember a time when people who weren't Actual Nazis made those jokes, but Gamergate hadn't happened yet and those lines hadn't really been drawn. The comic is bad, definitely, but weird as it is to say about something so recent, it's from a different time, whereas the alligator comic was something the PBF guy really should have known better about by now.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:44
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SwimmingSpider posted:the alligator comic was something the PBF guy really should have known better about by now. ... which is why he took the sumbitch down when people told him the bad reading.
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Dec 23, 2018 21:56
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quote:When the President caught wind of Ann’s tirade against him, he promptly unfollowed her on Twitter. Now we see that he really is doing his best to fund the wall and he’s willing to let the government shut down to get it. How do you write this and not realize we have a huge baby as a president?
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Dec 23, 2018 22:04
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Manuel Calavera posted:ugh Isn't NPC coming in vogue as a slur against liberals in right-wing circles? I thought I remembered reading something about that in one of the DnD threads, something about how "you can't convince them of anything, they just spout the same lines no matter what" which of course is projection as usual
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Dec 23, 2018 22:12
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Which is why Adams is a right wing hack.
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Dec 23, 2018 22:18
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Evilreaver posted:Isn't NPC coming in vogue as a slur against liberals in right-wing circles? I thought I remembered reading something about that in one of the DnD threads, something about how "you can't convince them of anything, they just spout the same lines no matter what" https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1053297117584740353 https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1053854238177079297
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Dec 23, 2018 22:18
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Evilreaver posted:Isn't NPC coming in vogue as a slur against liberals in right-wing circles? I thought I remembered reading something about that in one of the DnD threads, something about how "you can't convince them of anything, they just spout the same lines no matter what" It’s literally a Nazi term used against people to classify them as non-people who can be disregarded as human beings for not thinking like a Nazi. Other threads following alt-right online cess pits have posted threads before about Nazi’s contemplating if committing crimes against “NPCs” should even be illegal since they aren’t real people or if they even have souls. So fun times that Dilbert is running this poo poo in Sunday comics
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Dec 23, 2018 22:22
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Evilreaver posted:Isn't NPC coming in vogue as a slur against liberals in right-wing circles? I thought I remembered reading something about that in one of the DnD threads, something about how "you can't convince them of anything, they just spout the same lines no matter what" Yep. Somfin posted:... which is why he took the sumbitch down when people told him the bad reading. Yeah, that makes me forgive it. It's easy to accidentally imply the wrong thing, and if you take the initiative to fix it then it's hard to be mad. I imagine he was worried about his work going the way of Pepe and seeing his work shared by right-wing shitheads he hates.
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Dec 23, 2018 22:22
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Manuel Calavera posted:Which is why Adams is a right wing hack. He's worse than that, he's a techbro for probably the most VC-bait bullshit I've ever seen in my life. Ever thought, y'know what, teaching and training should be part of the gig economy- but while we're disrupting that industry, we should throw in blockchain and roll our own proprietary version of bitcoin? Explicitly to get around taxation? Now there's an app for it! I'm not gonna link it, but it's the thing listed in Adams' bio.
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Dec 23, 2018 23:06
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 I just realized that the blue-haired character in the "Offenders" comic is probably meant to be transgender, given the symbol on their chest.
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Dec 23, 2018 23:26
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Cat Mattress posted:That's because the PHB gradually became the protagonist and author-insert, replacing Dilbert as the star of the strip. The lame sexism jokes always stood out though.
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Dec 24, 2018 00:05
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Boy, that "economic growth" package looks kinda crummy, huh
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Dec 24, 2018 00:42
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Somfin posted:... which is why he took the sumbitch down when people told him the bad reading. Yeah, the more important story here is that the reemergence of fascism made jokes that were mediocre at the time into something objectionable. It's a terrible take to say that the PBF guy is bad now because he didn't think enough like a Nazi to anticipate how a future Nazi would read his comic. "Fascists look for converts, leftists look for traitors" etc. etc. I hate our historical moment. (Granting that the Defenders one was probably ill-advised at the time.)
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Dec 24, 2018 00:48
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D.N. Nation posted:Boy, that "economic growth" package looks kinda crummy, huh And putting SCOTUS on a present to an ungrateful base is, uh Peeling back the sheep's clothing a tad
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Dec 24, 2018 01:01
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Vib Rib posted:The worst thing is this isn't even an exaggeration to make a point. It's literally what happened. I like to think Early Adams would strangle Modern Adams over this poo poo, before he totally lost his way, but maybe that poo poo was always inside him and I just never noticed when I was younger.
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Scott Adam going for the NPC meme confirms my theory that anyone using it seriously talks at length of poo poo no one cares about and everyone just uses generic phrases so they don't have to really engage with them. It's like an extension of that dude on Facebook getting mad that his intellectual posts are barely getting any likes while the selfie pics get all the attention.
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