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Nonsense posted:Because Kevin O'Leary needs to eat poo poo, hope this illuminates things. So everyone else has to join him at the table and eat even more and this is a good thing? Jaramin posted:I generally agree. But I think since a recession/depression is all but inevitable, I would rather it happen on the Republican's watch. Since their policies will be responsible for it, so they can't punt the blame on the next hopefully Democratic administration, and so that administration has a larger majority. That’s fine, we just shouldn’t be cheering it on.
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cheetah7071 posted:The problem with all these very concerned republican senators is that they actually agree with Trump on basically everything (and especially on everything relevant to how they vote), they just don't like him personally Yep. It's been mentioned a gazillion times here and elsewhere but the only problem that most Republicans have with Trump is that A). he says the quiet part loud, which I'm not even sure many of them see as that big of a downside, and B). he's just completely inept at everything, a genuine moron. If Trump was actually as canny an operator as he believes himself to be every single Republican lofting weak twitter burns would instead be singing his praises. Not a single one of them hates Trump for any reason to do with principles, ethics, or morality, they hate him because he's such an idiot that it's interfering with their own lovely agendas.
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Solkanar512 posted:That’s fine, we just shouldn’t be cheering it on. Yeah we should. Now would actually be the perfect time for the economy to tank. It's long enough into Trump's term that the blame can squarely be laid on his shoulders, and he still has enough time left in office where he'll have to live with the consequences of loving everything up.
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We had to fight like mad to get a woman who wasn't the Queen on a bill, and even then the compromise was to stick her on it surrounded by like five other dudes. Agnes MacPhail, the first woman member of parliament no less, and this is what they did to her.  At least they got it right with Viola Desmond.Also I'm loving all the canchuds losing their poo poo in the comments on the CBC article. Hopefully they follow their American pondmates and burn all their money in protest.
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Kai Tave posted:Yep. It's been mentioned a gazillion times here and elsewhere but the only problem that most Republicans have with Trump is that A). he says the quiet part loud, which I'm not even sure many of them see as that big of a downside, and B). he's just completely inept at everything, a genuine moron. If Trump was actually as canny an operator as he believes himself to be every single Republican lofting weak twitter burns would instead be singing his praises. Not a single one of them hates Trump for any reason to do with principles, ethics, or morality, they hate him because he's such an idiot that it's interfering with their own lovely agendas. Yeah the Never Trumpers who three years ago were crying huge tears about the evil despot Obama and prior to were giddy about how many people they could grind up in the Middle East for profit with Bush have no scruples and it pisses me off when idiot Democrats retweet Frum or Kristol because they are "good" conservatives. It's incredibly elitist as well since they are only "good" because they can string together a bunch of big words to sell the same poo poo the racist base wants. No Republican is going to turn on Trump because they fundamentally agree with him on everything (outside of leaving Syria I guess) and also are gutless cowards that know better than to cross the leader when you are in an authoritarian cult.
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Zwabu posted:Everyone should remember that Obama dunking on Trump at WHCD didn’t come out of nowhere but out of years of Trump already pushing racist birther nonsense. Yeah, but the dinner was the point where it went from "my side lost" to "Burning obsession from bruised ego"
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Kai Tave posted:Yep. It's been mentioned a gazillion times here and elsewhere but the only problem that most Republicans have with Trump is that A). he says the quiet part loud, which I'm not even sure many of them see as that big of a downside, and B). he's just completely inept at everything, a genuine moron. If Trump was actually as canny an operator as he believes himself to be every single Republican lofting weak twitter burns would instead be singing his praises. Not a single one of them hates Trump for any reason to do with principles, ethics, or morality, they hate him because he's such an idiot that it's interfering with their own lovely agendas. C) They have to interact with him, and he is personally an rear end in a top hat.
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evilweasel posted:so is the admin trying to start a panic to get a recession now in the hopes it’s over by 2020 or what Because they're morons and think this Nazi Germany propaganda style will work in the information age like it did in 30's Germany
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God, why? Why the gently caress do people ever trust republicans? WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY?
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Most Republicans really don't like Trump's trade policies and what they're doing to the economy, and given that their primary goal is "More Money For Us", they will ABSOLUTELY turn on him over it.
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This animated chart is mesmerizing... https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1073357036283420672
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Ague Proof posted:C) They have to interact with him, and he is personally an rear end in a top hat. Oh absolutely this too. It's one of the very few silver linings of this whole situation to know that all these lovely Republicans are having to put up with Trump personally and I imagine that each and every one of them hates it. I hope they're all perfectly miserable every time they have to put up with their idiot king's tantrums.
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, but the dinner was the point where it went from "my side lost" to "Burning obsession from bruised ego" I don't honestly believe Trump ran for any other reason than to promote his business ventures in the media. It was a perfect storm of the right wing being hijacked by its media propaganda arm, his only competition being clowns and standard-bearers for decades of failed Republican orthodoxy, and Trump being totally unafraid to say what Republican voters actually think. Melania was smart enough to know that it could well be the demise of his business and family name. One or more of his children could go to prison.
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lol ok something bad may actually be looming then
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nine-gear crow posted:We had to fight like mad to get a woman who wasn't the Queen on a bill, and even then the compromise was to stick her on it surrounded by like five other dudes. Agnes MacPhail, the first woman member of parliament no less, and this is what they did to her. Loonies are coins, so the idiots'll have to fire up the forge if they wanna destroy them out spite.
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Dick Trauma posted:This animated chart is mesmerizing... 
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Skippy McPants posted:Loonies are coins, so the idiots'll have to fire up the forge if they wanna destroy them out spite. I am aware. I meant I was hoping they destroyed their normal paper/plastic money out of spite because its easier and would cost them more to do because they're the kind of angry morons who would do it. W/r/t the rainbow loonie, I hope they just chuck them on the sidewalk whenever they get one so that someone more deserving can pick it up and spend it in their stead.
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Random Stranger posted:I just want to point out that pornhub could always search their logs for connections from White House IP addresses and tell us what President Trump likes. And by identifying when in a video he stops watching, they can tell how long it takes him to get off and exactly what he likes. Why would you even post this!? 
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Paradoxish posted:Nah, recessions are usually defined by negative GDP and employment growth. I don't think you could really cover up the economy being in recession without a widescale conspiracy to fudge economic reports. Just like the 1928 Depression, the banks were giving bullshit numbers to keep riding the high of making profit from transactions and the more transactions the more profit and they flat out lied about the underlying numbers. The widescale conspiracy was the widespread chasing of The Almighty Dollar and tossing around the hot potato and hoping they don't get caught. Narrator: They didn't get caught.
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Dick Trauma posted:This animated chart is mesmerizing... That loving jump Japan has in the '80s and '90s! Then their fall and China replacing them in not even 10 years time.
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Peeking into the other trump threads and people are posting in detail about what the FDIC is Cool, cool
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Young Freud posted:That loving jump Japan has in the '80s and '90s! You can see the exact years when Wall St became panicked that Japan was going to steal everyone’s jobs.
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sexpig by night posted:lol ok something bad may actually be looming then Nothing bad is looming. Not like that anyway. Well, maybe war. That would be pretty bad. But barring that stupidity, any recession on the horizon is a natural thing and probably wouldn’t be bad.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Nothing bad is looming. Not like that anyway. Well, maybe war. That would be pretty bad. But barring that stupidity, any recession on the horizon is a natural thing and probably wouldn’t be bad. It wouldn’t be bad if it’s timed right to lead to another 2008 level Dem wave.
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Data Graham posted:Peeking into the other trump threads and people are posting in detail about what the FDIC is poo poo like this makes me think of putting my 401k into cash to wait this out.
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Data Graham posted:Peeking into the other trump threads and people are posting in detail about what the FDIC is Care to share?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:You can see the exact years when Wall St became panicked that Japan was going to steal everyone’s jobs. The thing that got me was it last well past the '80s, when the bubble burst. and didn't start falling back until the 2000s.
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nine-gear crow posted:I am aware. I meant I was hoping they destroyed their normal paper/plastic money out of spite because its easier and would cost them more to do because they're the kind of angry morons who would do it. Was there decent politics behind the rainbow loonie, or is it a FU to the loonies below your southern regions? Mazel Tov either way! 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It wouldn’t be bad if it’s timed right to lead to another 2008 level Dem wave. People are stupid and most have no idea how economics work. So yes, you want to time those recessions just right to make it look like the other side is responsible. That’s just good politics. Democrats have been pretty lucky at that. The recession that propelled Clinton into Office was over before he was even elected and the hangover from the next 8+ years of economic expansion fell on Bush. Eight years later Obama got credit for saving the economy when the most important steps were actually implemented before he was sworn in. That doesn’t mean Republicans didn’t deserve scorn, but the worst decisions leading up to the last several recessions were bipartisan affairs.
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The FDIC is an agency that insures up to 250k of your deposits. However, the system has never been tested on a wide scale and there's a lot of doubt if the system could handle something like Bank of America going down. It's also why they try to force banks to buy each other out, so the system isn't tested. E: I assume that's what he meant and not "how is the conversation going"
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Z. Autobahn posted:This isn't entirely true; a lot of them disagree with him on trade wars and foreign policy, and those are the issues that have been flaring up recently. The problem with this is, many of them are even more wrong about foreign policy than even Trump is, and that's saying something.
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Krispy Wafer posted:People are stupid and most have no idea how economics work. So yes, you want to time those recessions just right to make it look like the other side is responsible. That’s just good politics. Not sure any politician would want to be caught timing a recession. Or what politician could predictably wrangle the end of one in a time frame.
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Majorian posted:The problem with this is, many of them are even more wrong about foreign policy than even Trump is, and that's saying something. Oh yeah, for sure, the wild thing is that Trump's biggest failing from a right-wing perspective is that he's NOT hawkish enough. I just think the "Well, Trump's policies are exactly what the Republican establishment wants!" is an inaccurate take that misses the significant ways his choices manage to piss them off (and why they'll likely eventually turn on him, when the cost-benefit calculus shifts far enough to 'cost').
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Earth posted:poo poo like this makes me think of putting my 401k into cash to wait this out. Withdraw all of your money from the bank tomorrow and bury it in your yard.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Withdraw all of your money from the bank tomorrow and bury it in your yard. It was good enough for my great grand parents... 
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Earth posted:poo poo like this makes me think of putting my 401k into cash to wait this out. Literally never a good idea. If this ever becomes a reasonable thing to do it will instantly stop being reasonable because it means the economic situation is such that your silly American currency is now worthless anyway and we're probably trading bottle caps or something. I will never get the line of reasoning where it makes sense to be holding US dollars after some kind of total collapse of the financial system.
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