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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I believe 'pocket rocket' is a euphemism for a short hot female with a bit of double entendre for masturbation

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Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
Traveler 001 is the worst.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Small person but ballsy/feisty/dangerous? Like a miniature rocket looks tiny but can still gently caress poo poo up

Sloth Life fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Dec 23, 2018

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
It might have already happened and I missed it, but I'm surprised the Director didn't pick out some super rich people who were about to die and overwrite them to fund all the traveler teams by putting their money into a secret offshore or crypto account or something. I don't recall "We need money to solve problem X or buy a thing to solve Y" coming up, and you can surely get money easily by abusing lottery wins or stock knowledge, but that seems like a lot of bang for your buck there. Maybe it might not be worth that approach with how much it could alter history, but then again the whole idea is to alter history in all sorts of ways, so putting that money to use instead of funneling it to a random charity or back into a business or heirs is probably a fine trade-off.

Something in the back of my head tells me that historians have low-profile $25k-ish lotto numbers ready to go to grab cash and then increase that via investing, which I guess is fine too for most things and makes sense with the independent travelers cell thing going on.

I also think that's one thing I missed in this season, we didn't see many other travelers cells in play, aside from being able to phone them up for future tech as needed. I would have liked to see some of what the other full-team cells might have been up to, maybe a few cutaways to them totally beefing it in the places that got blown up. It could have been fun to see more direct evidence of the FBI knowing about and keeping tabs on teams as well, aside from the throwaway line of them taking out a few cells in the S3 premiere.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Huh, to me pocket rocket is a specific toy. You should log onto amazon.com and search for it.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Lycus posted:

Is there an example of overwriting more than a few times over a long period time?

I think the most we've seen are the faction people and marcy getting a second rewrite, which was enough for Macs partner to get a bit of a nosebleed.

So it probably cooks you eventually.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Flesh Forge posted:

I believe 'pocket rocket' is a euphemism for a short hot female with a bit of double entendre for masturbation

The hot female lead that pulls in the horny, male, nerd audience. As if I need that incentive for a time travel based show.

See: Troi in Star Trek.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
She can fit in your pocket I assume

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
No, but your hand can :pervert:

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
So threads S4 ideas for all those producers who read SA:

Old Mac
David as a Traveller
Kat as a Traveller

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
"My two Mac's" with Mclaren and another instance of his traveler's future self downloading into a different body acting side by side.

With traveling within the same 21st timeline as an established thing, and not necessarily requiring you to do it in the same host, have multiple instances of the same traveler (or small group of travelers, but this seems to work better with just one and maaaybe 2) active in the same timeframe. As an example of how this could work:

Traveler is in the body of "Frank" in 2018.
They travel back into a different body "Tom" with an arrival point in 2017.
Now as Tom goes forward in time before long that same traveler is present at the same point in time in two different bodies. And you can repeat that a fair amount, maybe end up with about 10 of the same traveler consciousness active at the same time.
Maybe you have some fun with one of those instances being killed and also simultaneously killing or undoing the consciousness transfer on multiple bodies, since they were further down the chain and would have only happened if that instance of the traveler was alive to do that. But that doesn't stop the bad guy (because of course if you do this it's coolest if it's a bad guy) since he can arrange for a different transfer to the past and start a new chain.
It also adds a ticking clock to this traveler's plans since it's a very plausible rule that they can't keep up this duplication past the point in time that they originally sent their consciousness back, if they try to do so the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Dang, that's the wildest thing I've thought of yet and probably what I most want to see the show do now. It's certainly a premise that's been done in time travel fiction before, but I'd love to see Travelers' take on it with the unique time travel gimmicks of this show.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I guess if you find the first people to live to be 450 years old who all happen to live in New York.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Gridlocked posted:

So threads S4 ideas for all those producers who read SA:

Old Mac
David as a Traveller
Kat as a Traveller

I am down for all of these, yes.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
But Kat and David don't deserve to die.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Everyone dies in this show

Marcy didn't deserve to die but she did like 4 times

Old Marcy got brain melted by 001
Melted Marcy would have been killed by the thieves
New Marcy was overwritten
Newer Marcy ate a bullet rather than let 001 do evil poo poo

Caros
May 14, 2008

NowonSA posted:

"My two Mac's" with Mclaren and another instance of his traveler's future self downloading into a different body acting side by side.

With traveling within the same 21st timeline as an established thing, and not necessarily requiring you to do it in the same host, have multiple instances of the same traveler (or small group of travelers, but this seems to work better with just one and maaaybe 2) active in the same timeframe. As an example of how this could work:

Traveler is in the body of "Frank" in 2018.
They travel back into a different body "Tom" with an arrival point in 2017.
Now as Tom goes forward in time before long that same traveler is present at the same point in time in two different bodies. And you can repeat that a fair amount, maybe end up with about 10 of the same traveler consciousness active at the same time.
Maybe you have some fun with one of those instances being killed and also simultaneously killing or undoing the consciousness transfer on multiple bodies, since they were further down the chain and would have only happened if that instance of the traveler was alive to do that. But that doesn't stop the bad guy (because of course if you do this it's coolest if it's a bad guy) since he can arrange for a different transfer to the past and start a new chain.
It also adds a ticking clock to this traveler's plans since it's a very plausible rule that they can't keep up this duplication past the point in time that they originally sent their consciousness back, if they try to do so the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Dang, that's the wildest thing I've thought of yet and probably what I most want to see the show do now. It's certainly a premise that's been done in time travel fiction before, but I'd love to see Travelers' take on it with the unique time travel gimmicks of this show.

Mac n' me.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Caros posted:

Mac n' me.

Thank god I wasn't the only one

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
So how did Trevor get so old and live through three lifetimes when the Traveler program only started in the last 20 years?

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Marmaduke! posted:

So how did Trevor get so old and live through three lifetimes when the Traveler program only started in the last 20 years?

He was involved in the early development of consciousness transfer technology before they started using it with time travel.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Trevor is amazing.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I wonder how they picked someone to transfer into without knowing who would die.

frgildan
Apr 6, 2005

I went some place mum and everyday I woke up in that place and told myself I'm alive and I was.

Cojawfee posted:

I wonder how they picked someone to transfer into without knowing who would die.

Probably used volunteers or criminals. While the director cant kill humans nothing stops the humans developing the tech from doing it.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

WrightOfWay posted:

He was involved in the early development of consciousness transfer technology before they started using it with time travel.

Ah, thanks, that makes much more sense!

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Given how fanatically devoted a lot of people are to the grand plan, I wouldn't be surprised if people volunteered to be overwritten.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Especially if living in the post-apoc future is terrible.

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Lycus posted:

Especially if living in the post-apoc future is terrible.

There's bound to be some pretty rad benefits to letting your entire consciousness die as part of an experiment. Their families are probably set for life eating actual food!

That kind of early Trevor-style traveling is basically what I'm positing in my crazy "One traveler 10 bodies" idea, it's just being done with hops back to the past to let multiples of the same traveler be around at once. It still begins at the present so the only involvement of the future is that Traveler's first takeover of a 21st century body, and then they keep doing it 001 style but adding time travel to it.

Having the traveler involved become increasingly deranged as they get further down the body transfer chain is an obvious move, but hey it'd still be fun to see.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Boris Galerkin posted:

Huh, to me pocket rocket is a specific toy. You should log onto amazon.com and search for it.

They named the toy after the phrase.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I love this show. But I still think it would make more sense for the future to send back a bunch of future tech and what not rather than sending agents to have shoot outs in empty warehouses.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


I don't think they can send anything other than conciousnesses and messengers to the past. The future tech like nanites and the laser that deflected Helios were built in the 21st by travelers.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

nickmeister posted:

I love this show. But I still think it would make more sense for the future to send back a bunch of future tech and what not rather than sending agents to have shoot outs in empty warehouses.

They can't. The central part of the show's concept is that they can only send consciousnesses and messages.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

well, they can send 'engineers' who can whip up nanotechnology in a bathtub

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Lycus posted:

They can't. The central part of the show's concept is that they can only send consciousnesses and messages.

It's like altered carbon but with time travel and also better

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
After every season I forget how awesome this show is then am delighted at how awesome it is when I watch it again.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE
Mar 31, 2010


nickmeister posted:

I love this show. But I still think it would make more sense for the future to send back a bunch of future tech and what not rather than sending agents to have shoot outs in empty warehouses.

This is against Candian law

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

nickmeister posted:

I love this show. But I still think it would make more sense for the future to send back a bunch of future tech and what not rather than sending agents to have shoot outs in empty warehouses.

That would have been a lot more expensive to produce.

Milo and POTUS posted:

It's like altered carbon but with time travel and also better

Case in point, Altered Carbon costs between 6 and 7 million dollars per episode.

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Dec 26, 2018

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Like, I get that they are trapped in a nuclear wasteland with no resources or hope. But surely they could send back specialists to build super-clean energy sources or something.

Anyways, that one shot of the future with the old guy and his wife watching the sunlight was beautiful. I knew when I saw it that that was going to be the only future scene in the series. Does anyone have a still of it?

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
They mention several times that they don't want current governments to fight over the tech/torture travelers for more.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Gaunab posted:

They mention several times that they don't want current governments to fight over the tech/torture travelers for more.

Which is why they have travelers set up companies instead of just being like, "Hey guys, we're from the future, here are some magic gizmos!"

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Flesh Forge posted:

That would have been a lot more expensive to produce.


Case in point, Altered Carbon costs between 6 and 7 million dollars per episode.

Coincidentally the action choreography could use some improvement. It's my least favorite part of the show I think

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upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

nickmeister posted:

Which is why they have travelers set up companies instead of just being like, "Hey guys, we're from the future, here are some magic gizmos!"

what happens with that tech once it gets made? good stuff? bad stuff? clean, limitless power might just be another way of saying hegemony hell-bent on world domination.

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