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Eox posted:Hitting the dance floor with a loaded gun is a mad dumb thing to do even if the person you shot doesn't want any trouble. Accidents happen, but an accident with a gun is always deftly avoided by not having a loaded loving gun on your person. All of this is true but none it tells me why two years probation isn't an appropriate sentence.
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friendbot2000 posted:His dad created an environment that encouraged abuse. If you have two kids and one of them hits the other, as a parent you tell them to stop hitting their sibling. In this analogy Fred Trump would egg it on and call you names if you didnt hit your brother harder. Pair that environment with a mother and father who had basically no ounce of love or humanity in their veins and you got a sociopath starter kit. I loathe Donald, but I capn see why he turned out this way from what I know of his parents and childhood. There are a lot of people who come from awful, broken environments which break them in turn. One of the biggest problems in dealing with mental health is that many of those who aren't mentally healthy aren't sympathetic. Either because their mental illness breaks them in some way or because they are just unlikable. It makes getting aid for them all the more difficult. Trump is mentally unwell both due to being a narcissist and his dementia. He's also an enormous sack of crap because he's been insulated from consequences his entire life and lives in an intensely selfish and destructive way. It makes it extremely difficult to feel empathy for him because he's causing so much damage and inflicting so much pain on others. There's nothing you can really do at this point. The time to keep Trump from turning into who is now is keeping Fred Trump from abusing him back then. As far as I know there's no treatment for being a narcissist.
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Jarmak posted:All of this is true but none it tells me why two years probation isn't an appropriate sentence. Yeah that was my original point. We are so used to a draconian legal system in the US it seeps into the subconscious of the left making prison time for minor infractions seem normal and justified.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:11
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RasperFat posted:Yeah that was my original point. Also the knowledge that if this was "random PoC" they would get jail time and this white fed isn't getting that.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:15
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Mr Interweb posted:ok some of these have to be photoshopped right
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Dec 26, 2018 05:15
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Ardennes posted:If anything we are going to be hit with austerity measures that will make the situation worse. That said, I think Trump/GOP's chances in 2020 are getting more remote. The problem is the economy is going to be complete poo poo and the Democrats might not be able to fix it. Perfect time for UHC and UBI
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Dec 26, 2018 05:16
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Jarmak posted:All of this is true but none it tells me why two years probation isn't an appropriate sentence. Sentencing is designed to do several things 1. Protection of society 2. Provide for rehabilitation 3. Specific deterrence (You, specifically don't do this again) 4. General deterrence (Anyone should think twice before doing this again) 5. Retribution A guy with no previous criminal history did a dumb thing that caused an unlikely event that injured a person who wasn't that fired up over it. He's not likely to do it again, so 1 and 3 don't really apply. There's such a long causal change that general deterrence is hard to target and no one is clamoring for vengeance. All that's left is providing for rehabilitation, which isn't really served by a jail term. Backloading consequences if he continues to be a fuckup is the most fair outcome here.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:18
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I know it’s because one is from a video and the other is from a photographer who knows what they’re doing, but it still feels significant that the shot of Michelle Obama is so much more colorful than the one of Trump. There's also the ghostly shadows in the Trump shot. It's obviously from the set lighting but it makes it look like they're sitting in the dark, the only light is from the headlights of passing traffic.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:20
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An old timey Christmas tale, just before the sun sets on us at the end of this day of healing: Woody Guthrie - 1913 Massacre: "And the children that died there were seventy three." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz7oguguIZE
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Dec 26, 2018 05:44
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I know it’s because one is from a video and the other is from a photographer who knows what they’re doing, but it still feels significant that the shot of Michelle Obama is so much more colorful than the one of Trump. 
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Dec 26, 2018 06:03
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It is just so goddamn hellish...how do you gently caress up Christmas decorating this badly?
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Dec 26, 2018 06:07
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“Lo and did Mattis walk the path to the bleak underworld to meet its divine master, Trumpf.”
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Dec 26, 2018 06:07
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Yeah ok we get it the Trump administration is better than the Obama one at Christmas decoration, don't rub it in
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Dec 26, 2018 06:09
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mcmagic posted:That isn't an argument for how PayGo is really progressive... And you don't know what centrism is, so I guess we're at an impasse. I do not care for some of Pelosi's policies as relate to budgetary spending. That doesn't change the fact that she's left of center of both the average Dem voter and her fellow Dem Representatives. (But not radically so)
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Dec 26, 2018 06:14
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Trump knows he's a supervillain and is embracing the poo poo out of it.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:14
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friendbot2000 posted:It is just so goddamn hellish...how do you gently caress up Christmas decorating this badly? I'm in the camp that actually rather enjoys Melania's horrific nightmare Christmases. I hope we get two more. well, mostly, a trump divorce during his presidency would be amazeballs
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Dec 26, 2018 06:15
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theflyingorc posted:And you don't know what centrism is, so I guess we're at an impasse. The average D voter is FOR Medicare for All.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:17
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I'm in the camp that actually rather enjoys Melania's horrific nightmare Christmases. I hope we get two more. Omg I can only imagine how petty that would get. He would war over everything right down to the decor.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:22
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friendbot2000 posted:Omg I can only imagine how petty that would get. He would war over everything right down to the decor. Reminder that he and his now-ex-wife enthusiastically participated in Pizza Hut commercials that made fun of their ongoing divorce.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:29
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mcmagic posted:The average D voter is FOR Medicare for All. And they also didn't previously personally shepherd single payer through their house of Congress. Just stop embarrassing yourself.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:42
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Ice Phisherman posted:As far as I know there's no treatment for being a narcissist. Narcissists never seek treatment anyway, it's practically a diagnostic element. Even if there were a treatment, you couldn't get a narcissist to comply with it. If they're complying and participating in treatment odds are they aren't a narcissist.
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I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what she actually accomplishes. This is starting to feel like Avenatti-level self-aggrandizing,
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Dec 26, 2018 06:54
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Catalyst-proof posted:I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what she actually accomplishes. This is starting to feel like Avenatti-level self-aggrandizing, Anything she proposes is going to face immense resistance. They want to squash her right away
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Dec 26, 2018 06:55
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I like how their tree is just dead hair being lit from the bottom. Why not just replace the furniture with dancing women, have the rooms be lit only by skulls and fire and have some personal insignia on banners through out the halls?
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Dec 26, 2018 07:06
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RasperFat posted:Hence why I said an appropriate punishment might be taking away his gun license. Look, you asked why someone would be segregated from society for shooting someone. It's so they don't shoot someone else. I don't know why you are having trouble understanding this, but you are clearly confused. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Catalyst-proof posted:I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what she actually accomplishes. This is starting to feel like Avenatti-level self-aggrandizing, How is it self-aggrandizing? Even if it is, how does it come anywhere near Basta-man's level?
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Dec 26, 2018 07:16
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theflyingorc posted:And they also didn't previously personally shepherd single payer through their house of Congress. Just stop embarrassing yourself. hey, yeah, when's the last time trusting nancy pelosi bit any people relying on her in the rear end ain't that right, DACA kids? i forget, theflyingorc. were you one of the ones who was busy writing fanfiction about how Nancy was giving latino reps a well-deserved tongue-lashing for being so insufferably uppity as to question her ability to deliver on the deal last year or were you wise enough to keep your mouth shut
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Dec 26, 2018 07:19
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BarbarianElephant posted:It’s probably genuinely linked. The business world feels happier with Republicans in power because they know tax cuts are coming their way. They also know that Congress is now going to be engaged in a big internal war, rather than doing the cut taxes and regulations thing that they would if Republicans retained the house. Certainly wasn't Trump loving around with the market and making poo poo dump by shaking everything up. The economy does way better under Democrats than it does Republicans, even Trump agrees.
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I’ve been giggling for 5 minutes at the name “Donnie Merbles”
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Alkydere posted:There's also the ghostly shadows in the Trump shot. It's obviously from the set lighting but it makes it look like they're sitting in the dark, the only light is from the headlights of passing traffic. The shadows of the chandeliers also make it look like paint is faded and peeling on the walls, which only adds to the effect.
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Catalyst-proof posted:I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what she actually accomplishes. This is starting to feel like Avenatti-level self-aggrandizing, I'd like you to go into detail as to how a message of "love thy fellow man" is self-aggrandizing.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:hey, yeah, when's the last time trusting nancy pelosi bit any people relying on her in the rear end
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BarbarianElephant posted:It’s probably genuinely linked. The business world feels happier with Republicans in power because they know tax cuts are coming their way. They also know that Congress is now going to be engaged in a big internal war, rather than doing the cut taxes and regulations thing that they would if Republicans retained the house. the biz world should be shoved into a brazen bull. They use THEALGORITHM which trades in pico seconds and trys to make "predictions" about stuff going into the trillion year mark, but arbitrarily only trade during 9 to 5 hours.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:hey, yeah, when's the last time trusting nancy pelosi bit any people relying on her in the rear end I don't think theflyingorc was one of them, but this is genuinely something that happened. Folks were incensed that Luis Gutierrez didn't place his faith in Pelosi and Schumer's ability to make a deal with Trump and hold him to it. Majorian fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Dec 26, 2018 07:28
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theflyingorc posted:You're legitimately not well it turns out remembering the past is useful, in the discussing politics game. next time you decide to brag on someone's reliability, maybe pick someone who was not presented to a lot of desperate people as a savior, and who then rang in the new year by telling them "lol nevermind get in the detention camps kids i'm told it might look bad if i pushed the issue of your being human beings" i genuinely did not recall if you were one of the people crowing about how -childish- the latino representatives questioning if she'd be able to deliver were. i merely recall the event. it was not, perhaps, the finest hour of Team Trust The Leadership.
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Dec 26, 2018 07:37
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Holy poo poo this is good. She gets it and can say it in both religious and secular terms.
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Dick Trauma posted:This animated chart is mesmerizing... I know this was a while ago but has anyone noticed the Soviet Union isn't on here? There's no way Italy or Canada had a larger economy than the USSR in 1966.
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BrandorKP posted:Holy poo poo this is good. She gets it and can say it in both religious and secular terms. Powerful painting too. 
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Mr Interweb posted:ok some of these have to be photoshopped right Why would you think that? People actually wanted to go when the Obama's ran the place.
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