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OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

:boom:

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sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

By

Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

Platystemon posted:

lol if you use “tonnes” while “megagrammes” exists.

You're forgetting about my personal favorite: kilopounds.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Platystemon posted:

lol if you use “tonnes” while “megagrammes” exists.

this reminds me: i think ive seen metric weirdos use "k km" to denote such as service intervals or mileage, when they could have said megameters. MEGAMETERS.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

The Swedes routinely uses Miles. They mean 10km because gently caress you

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



~95% of the time when I see M, it means 1,000, so $90M = $90,000 (M in Roman numerals is 1,000). MM would be 1,000 * 1,000, or 1 million. However, I end up running across M being used as 1 million just enough to make it that I can never assume M is 1,000, and I have to figure it out based on the context, which isn't always as easy as you'd think.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

sharkytm posted:

You're forgetting about my personal favorite: kilopounds.

Stop that.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Computer viking posted:

Norwegians routinely use millimeters in conversation, and the lab techs I work with don't seem afraid of milliliters either, though those tend to sound more like mi'liters. I don't think I've ever heard anyone use just "mill" for either unit.

mil for millimetres.

mils for millilitres.


Still better than lunatics who use poo poo like hectograms and centilitres.


Raluek posted:

this reminds me: i think ive seen metric weirdos use "k km" to denote such as service intervals or mileage, when they could have said megameters. MEGAMETERS.

Do it the Korean way* and count in multiples of 10,000.





*please no one actually do this

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

MomJeans420 posted:

~95% of the time when I see M, it means 1,000, so $90M = $90,000 (M in Roman numerals is 1,000). MM would be 1,000 * 1,000, or 1 million. However, I end up running across M being used as 1 million just enough to make it that I can never assume M is 1,000, and I have to figure it out based on the context, which isn't always as easy as you'd think.

Where on earth are you seeing that frequently? K means thousand, not M.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
I think on the show Ice Road Truckers, Canadian truckers often said "clicks" whenever referring to metric speed or distance. I thought it sounded kinda cool and a lot easier to say than kilometers per hour.

*Edit yes I did mean to type clicks instead of icks

Not Wolverine fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Dec 27, 2018

Bass Ackwards
Nov 14, 2003

Anything can be used as a hammer if you try hard enough.

Crotch Fruit posted:

I think on the show Ice Road Truckers, Canadian truckers often said "icks" whenever referring to metric speed or distance. I thought it sounded kinda cool and a lot easier to say than kilometers per hour.

Are you sure they aren’t saying “clicks”?

That’s a common slang term for kilometers or km/h, as in “go five clicks down the road and turn right at the traffic lights,” or “just got flashed by a speed camera, and I think I was about ten clicks over.”

I can’t speak for all Commonwealth countries but it’s certainly used like this in Australia.

dpack_1
Mar 23, 2009

Let another's wounds be your warning

Crotch Fruit posted:

I think on the show Ice Road Truckers, Canadian truckers often said "icks" whenever referring to metric speed or distance. I thought it sounded kinda cool and a lot easier to say than kilometers per hour.

Pretty sure that's an accent saying the word 'click' or probably more accurately 'klick'. Which is cool dudebro military speak for kilometer or kilometers per hour.

"How far to the target?"
"About 3 clicks"

"How fast were you going in that thing?"
"60 clicks flat out"

Which brings me to the question of why the US military were so ready to adopt the metric system for that but still talk in pounds and tonnage when it comes to munitions or loads?

Why wont the whole world unify with one god drat unit of measurement that makes sense so we, as a species can stop doing stupid mathematical conversions on constants. I dont want a single currency or language (would be nice but a little NWO-ish) but when it comes to maths it's a universal language and whether you're talking miles, kilometers, fathoms, leagues, furlongs or whatever else you wanna make up for your specific cause the are all denoting the same thing. Same goes for temperature, weight, forces, all that sciency poo poo. Lets get all communist on this subject and speak the same* to avoid the confusion.

(*the correct same to use is the infallible metric system because imperial measures just make no good drat sense and we don't have 12 fingers to make it easier!)

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

dpack_1 posted:

...

Which brings me to the question of why the US military were so ready to adopt the metric system for that but still talk in pounds and tonnage when it comes to munitions or loads?

...

A large portion of American smart bombs are actually Vietnam era or earlier dumb bombs with computer controlled winglets strapped on. The Vietnam war itself mostly used surplus bombs from WW2. Basically there's swaths of the logistics chain so old that it's not really worth it to switch, and it's not like you ever unexpectedly need to know what a 500 pound bomb is in kilos, or have a 378.5 pound bomb. Those weights are more like standard sizes, like Large, Extra Large, etc. A 500 lb bomb doesn't even weigh 500 lb.

Bore size is in millimeters for everything but .50 BMG and .45 ACP.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Dec 27, 2018

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Most of the things that have metric designations are round numbers in U.S. customary units. :ssh:

7.62 mm is precisely 0.3 inches

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

If you mean millimeter, use millimeter. A mil is a thousandth of an inch.

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal
No a thou is a thousandth of an inch don't confuse me or I'll gently caress up this part. (Engineers would do this and confuse new guys so bad)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

MrYenko posted:

If you mean millimeter, use millimeter. A mil is a thousandth of an inch.

A mil is a thousandth of a radian, or 0.05625 degrees.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Platystemon posted:

Most of the things that have metric designations are round numbers in U.S. customary units. :ssh:

7.62 mm is precisely 0.3 inches

Now explain British .303, German 7.92, Russian 7.62, and the fact that the civilian version of 7.62 NATO is .308.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Dec 27, 2018

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

dpack_1 posted:

Why wont the whole world unify with one god drat unit of measurement that makes sense so we, as a species can stop doing stupid mathematical conversions on constants.

Mate, they did.

The only countries left, in the entire world, which don't have metric as their official standard are Myanmar, Liberia and the US.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Mate, they did.

The only countries left, in the entire world, which don't have metric as their official standard are Myanmar, Liberia and the US.

We tried, we tried. We use to have the "destination to" signs on interstates with both miles and km.

To be honest, we are fairly metric. But miles and cooking measurements will last well after I'm 6 feet under.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Now explain British .303, German 7.92, Russian 7.62, and the fact that the civilian version of 7.62 NATO is .308.

"Are you measuring across grooves or lands?"

That's it. That's your answer.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Metric is doing better all the time in the US, not because of regulation but because of capitalism. It just makes more sense to measure stuff the way the rest of the world does so more companies are doing it. Anyone in the scientific community is going to be all metric too.

The issue with the government making an official cutover is it turns into an AMERICA SHOULD LEAD NOT FOLLOW argument and no candidate is going to want to risk sounding like they're not patriotic.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



EXPLAIN 2x4s!!!!

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010


*tips flask*

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.



gently caress those measurements in the ear. Seriously. gently caress everyone involved in that whole wood measurement thing.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

BitBasher posted:

gently caress those measurements in the ear. Seriously. gently caress everyone involved in that whole wood measurement thing.

Also pipes, while we're at it.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



2" x 4" is the size of the wood before drying, or so I heard.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Dirt Road Junglist posted:

Also pipes, while we're at it.

Pipes and tubing for air/liquid are usually measured on the inside diameter, so the OD is all over the place depending on material.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

BitBasher posted:

gently caress those measurements in the ear. Seriously. gently caress everyone involved in that whole wood measurement thing.

I've always understood the 2x4 thing...but when plywood is in /32 dimensions that one makes me ponder.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Darchangel posted:

2" x 4" is the size of the wood before drying, or so I heard.

The wood is already dry when they cut it! (unless you're getting it from home depot amirite. drat curly rear end wood)

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Fayez Butts posted:

The wood is already dry when they cut it! (unless you're getting it from home depot amirite. drat curly rear end wood)

Yeah, the spend a half hour flipping routine through poo poo wood to find a few good ones. (No porno jokes).

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Fayez Butts posted:

The wood is already dry when they cut it! (unless you're getting it from home depot amirite. drat curly rear end wood)

See also: Lowe's, Menard's

Get your lumber from a lumberyard.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Now explain British .303, German 7.92, Russian 7.62, and the fact that the civilian version of 7.62 NATO is .308.

I was told in the army (Germany, 30+ years ago) that the Russians used 7.62 so that they could use NATO 7.62 rounds they picked up, but that their own rounds had some feature (changed grooves or similar) that made them unusable in our guns (G3, at the time). I have no idea if that was true, but I always thought it was stupid to let that happen.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Dagen H posted:

See also: Lowe's, Menard's

Get your lumber from a lumberyard.

This could be a hilarious (but wrong thread) conversation.

Get your boards from the "select" section.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Fayez Butts posted:

The wood is already dry when they cut it! (unless you're getting it from home depot amirite. drat curly rear end wood)

Well, gently caress if I know, then.

Dagen H posted:

See also: Lowe's, Menard's

Get your lumber from a lumberyard.

Lowe's seems to be better about that than HD, at least...

Colostomy Bag posted:

This could be a hilarious (but wrong thread) conversation.

Get your boards from the "select" section.

Probably because I do that.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

xzzy posted:

The issue with the government making an official cutover is it turns into an AMERICA SHOULD LEAD NOT FOLLOW argument and no candidate is going to want to risk sounding like they're not patriotic.

I think the issue was spending money to replace everything in imperial with metric. I think that's why Reagan killed it because GoVeRnMeNt WaStE. It doesn't even have to cost all that much. Design up some signs and templates that have both. When a sign needs to be replaced, you replace it with one that has both. Then once a big enough portion of signs have both systems, you start replacing signs with ones that are just metric. Everyone already has cars with both kilometers and miles so it wouldn't even matter. I guarantee people wouldn't even notice once they've seen metric enough and other people start talking about things in terms of metric.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Old people, who are the ones in position to make laws and regulations, are definitely known for their adaptability to new systems and desire to see things change.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Darchangel posted:

Well, gently caress if I know, then.

You're partly right. When the log is first sawn into boards, the 2x4 pieces are pretty close to those actual dimensions. The green wood is wet and so needs to be dried. It does shrink a bit in that process, but it also warps. The dry, warped boards are planed down to square them up again, and the lumber industry has settled on removing about 1/4" from each side as a balance between precision and efficiency. That leaves you with the now-standard slightly smaller dimensions.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

dpack_1 posted:

Or, you know, most of the rest of the world.

Like seriously, I've never heard anyone say "millimeters" in casual conversation and it's always just been "mil" or "mils" depending on context.

The context (which I should have mentioned) is when people in healthcare go "Give them 300 'mils' ". Plenty of stuff available in both, and it's just pointless. Thankfully I have only heard it once of twice in insignificant settings.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Sagebrush posted:

You're partly right. When the log is first sawn into boards, the 2x4 pieces are pretty close to those actual dimensions. The green wood is wet and so needs to be dried. It does shrink a bit in that process, but it also warps. The dry, warped boards are planed down to square them up again, and the lumber industry has settled on removing about 1/4" from each side as a balance between precision and efficiency. That leaves you with the now-standard slightly smaller dimensions.

Yes precision and efficiency. The crap that is thrown out, one would be nuts to use it to make a tree house out of the crap.

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Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!

Zopotantor posted:

I was told in the army (Germany, 30+ years ago) that the Russians used 7.62 so that they could use NATO 7.62 rounds they picked up, but that their own rounds had some feature (changed grooves or similar) that made them unusable in our guns (G3, at the time). I have no idea if that was true, but I always thought it was stupid to let that happen.

The Russian 7.62x25 caliber pistols can fire German 7.63x25 Mauser ammo, but not the other way around (ww2 era) I’ve never heard of interchangeability between 7.62 nato and any other Russian calibers.

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