Mirificus posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

But that's obvious bullshit,

I said come in! posted:

Not that anyone here needs justification, but I have played the latest version of Star Citizen and it does truly loving suck and is devoid of content. Also for a game that is supposedly backed by millions of people, almost no one is playing it. The FPS and space arena modes only ever have a handful of people playing (literally 3 - 4 people tops), and the MMO part is only maybe 10 people or so.

Sarsapariller posted:

The biggest in the actual game is the Hammerhead and that takes ~7 people, 1 pilot and 6 turret gunners.

Hav posted:

‘Savvy investor’ always takes me back to ‘Asterix and Obelix’. One of the best historically based European cartoons a boy could ever read. At least i think it’s that one. Ceaser sends a business consultant to wreck havoc in the Gaulish resistance.

Agony Aunt posted:

I'm pretty clueless here, but i'm guessing the Hammerhead punches above its weight, and can also be crewed with just one person and the turrets still work without other players?

Dementropy posted:

Colostomy Bag posted:

Remember folks and those new here, the issue council had itself a bug where it counted backwards.

Thoatse posted:

Yeah but that was only for like the first year or two

SomethingJones posted:

trucutru posted:

Obelix and Co. is quite likely among the top 10 comics ever written and everybody should read it.



quite related to SC too.

Agony Aunt posted:

I'm pretty clueless here, but i'm guessing the Hammerhead punches above its weight, and can also be crewed with just one person and the turrets still work without other players?

Dementropy posted:

SomethingJones posted:

All they said was 'here's the roadmap and we took investment to market it'

But now what's going to happen over the next 12 months is that it will become abundantly crystal clear that SQ42 will have been started over from scratch - because the PU will continue to have gently caress all AI, a lovely flight model, lovely non working physics and completely broken collision detection, whilst SQ42 is ramping up to beta.

They can't build a commercial game in that hacked engine, so the only way SQ42 gets to beta is to split it off entirely from scratch.

That's what the new flight model is for, that's what they're hiring AI devs for, that's why they took on "proper devs" earlier this year and that's why they have a new guy heading up the Wilmslow office.

So backers will have to contend with the fact that SQ42 will be a few months out from beta whilst they are still fighting with a lovely non working engine (which will probably get a few new SQ42 assets pumped into it in the meantime)

Then they will suddenly realise they don't get their hands on it until it is released (Erin already said no public or private betas)

Then when it comes out and (mocap cutscenes aside) it feels, flies, moves and works better than the PU because it isn't built on a broken clusterfuck engine they might, they just might realise they've been conned all along.

SQ42 Prelude release is when backers realise they've been conned into funding a completely different game using a completely different engine, which is in fact a platform for Chris Roberts returning to Holywood with a merchandisable franchise.

The only thing they are doing with Squadron that's compatible with the PU is art, and even then it's a shitshow.

SomethingJones posted:

All they said was 'here's the roadmap and we took investment to market it'

But now what's going to happen over the next 12 months is that it will become abundantly crystal clear that SQ42 will have been started over from scratch - because the PU will continue to have gently caress all AI, a lovely flight model, lovely non working physics and completely broken collision detection, whilst SQ42 is ramping up to beta.

They can't build a commercial game in that hacked engine, so the only way SQ42 gets to beta is to split it off entirely from scratch.

That's what the new flight model is for, that's what they're hiring AI devs for, that's why they took on "proper devs" earlier this year and that's why they have a new guy heading up the Wilmslow office.

So backers will have to contend with the fact that SQ42 will be a few months out from beta whilst they are still fighting with a lovely non working engine (which will probably get a few new SQ42 assets pumped into it in the meantime)

Then they will suddenly realise they don't get their hands on it until it is released (Erin already said no public or private betas)

Then when it comes out and (mocap cutscenes aside) it feels, flies, moves and works better than the PU because it isn't built on a broken clusterfuck engine they might, they just might realise they've been conned all along.

SQ42 Prelude release is when backers realise they've been conned into funding a completely different game using a completely different engine, which is in fact a platform for Chris Roberts returning to Holywood with a merchandisable franchise.

The only thing they are doing with Squadron that's compatible with the PU is art, and even then it's a shitshow.

A wise, virile seer posted:

I wonder if the backers realize how much they're being bait-and-switched. Chris only ever wanted to make his loving lovely movie, and he was always willing to sacrifice every other module at that altar. Now they're near the end of their funds, all spent trying to build all of the modules like Star Marine, the PTU, and so on, but with Chris's time-proven stupidity and mismanagement turning all that cash, and all that work, into a fine mist of piss on a summer breeze.

So now here we are, with all of the remaining funds being poured into the shittiest single-player space game we're ever likely to see in our lifetimes. Why do people think they need more bug-testing on Arena Commander? Why the sudden laser-like focus on SQ42, when until now all the focus and all the fanfare was on the PU and Star Marine? Because with their remaining funds, Chris cannot complete SQ42 unless he diverts all resources to it. Every other module experiment is now a failure and a write-off. This is it - this is where the last of the money is going.

This is what Chris wanted to do, so he did it with the money given to him for another product, and another promise, entirely.

This was never about building a universe. It was about attempting to build a universe on the side, while fulfilling his personal desires as the main goal, front and center.

He could have chosen to scrap SQ42 and put all resources on the PU that all his backers want, but he didn't. Backers got a hangar so they could see their ships and fantasize about their upcoming experiences, they got Arena Commander so they could better imagine what they would be like in combat, and they got the PTU, a barely-functional glimpse of how it would all tie together. Chris Roberts was not able to deliver both that universe, that the backers voted for with their dollars, AND the single-player mo-cap travesty he's trying to poo poo out right now, before the funds started to dry up. So Chris Roberts had to make a choice.

Backers should never, ever forget that when the money got tight, and Chris had the tough choice on which part of the game to concentrate on, he chose himself. He chose to use backer money to build his personal pet project, and ignore the very project whose promise generated those funds in the first place.

It's only January, but I'm going to nominate Chris Roberts for the rear end in a top hat of the Year award. Good job commando - you've earned it.

BluesShaman posted:

Downvoted.

Dementropy posted:

Quavers posted:

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Step 1: kill/gank/grief other players
Step 2: get killed by guards
Step 3: repeat

Sarsapariller posted:

Nope it costs 800 dollars and without people in the turrets it can't shoot at all. It's shields are completely impossible for a fighter to take down though. That's why I bought one- some day my elite crew will be king of the battlefield!

Don't worry though, Citizens are very sure that turret AI is right around the corner. Just.... not on the roadmap. It's fine! Buy more ships.

Mirificus posted:

trucutru posted:

Obelix and Co. is quite likely among the top 10 comics ever written and everybody should read it.



quite related to SC too.