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tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



I have a Pilot Metropolitan and two inks currently. The time has come to buy a second pen so I can have both inks available (and down the rabbit hole starts now).

I would like to spend up to $75 getting a new pen that either comes with piston filling or can be easily converted. Suggestions?

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atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

tangy yet delightful posted:

I would like to spend up to $75 getting a new pen that either comes with piston filling or can be easily converted. Suggestions?

A TWSBI Diamond 580, or, to save a bit, an Eco. Nice pens, good writers, massive ink capacity.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg
There's also that PenBBS model, right? I forgot the number but I'm sure someone knows.

I daily carry an Eco and it's going strong over a year in. Maybe two years? It has a stub nib. Not impractical at all. Okay, a little bit. Maybe I should get a Kaweco or something in fine to go with.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

There's also that PenBBS model, right? I forgot the number but I'm sure someone knows.

I daily carry an Eco and it's going strong over a year in. Maybe two years? It has a stub nib. Not impractical at all. Okay, a little bit. Maybe I should get a Kaweco or something in fine to go with.

I really love my Eco, even more than my diamond 580. Probably just got lucky on the nib with the Eco, they're otherwise very similar.

Avian Pneumonia
May 24, 2006

ASK ME ABOUT MY OPINIONS ON CANCEL CULTURE
does uniball make a retractable version of the onyx micro?

i love the pen but need a retractable. what would be closest? i like but don't love the g2 and v5. right now i'm using schmidt extra fine inserts inside a kustoms retrakt pen and i love it when it works properly which it mostly does? but i also need something more fine tipped.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Avian Pneumonia posted:

does uniball make a retractable version of the onyx micro?

i love the pen but need a retractable. what would be closest? i like but don't love the g2 and v5. right now i'm using schmidt extra fine inserts inside a kustoms retrakt pen and i love it when it works properly which it mostly does? but i also need something more fine tipped.

Zebra F301?

It's a different kind of ink that just doesn't really write like an onyx, much dryer, but it's close. Maybe the 402, which is a gel.

e: Have you tried markers? They aren't retractable, but I feel like for everyday writing they are nicer than pens.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


I got a bottle of Noodler's Sequoia for Christmas and it made writing my thank you notes very enjoyable. I don't know what the appropriate term for it is, but all my letters are lighter at the top and darker at the bottom. Shading? Feathering?



Also as a fish biologist, I don't know if I'll allow myself to ever buy any other brand of ink.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

That's shading. Feathering refers to a different ink behavior where your lines spike outwardly in a manner resembling a fluffy feather.

Noodlers makes pretty decent inks, you've got a lot to explore from Nathan.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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I love/hate Noodler's because I largely like the colors but if I go even a day without using a pen I have to dip it in water to get it to write again.

Giant Metal Robot
Jun 14, 2005


Taco Defender
How dangerous is licking the nib?

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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Giant Metal Robot posted:

How dangerous is licking the nib?

The only time I did it was with a pen with Nitrogen Royal Blue, which is the most insanely staining ink on the planet, and my tongue was blue for two days and tasted like I was sucking on a penny.

As far as actual danger, probably not much, though I wouldn't make a habit of it

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Does anyone have any recommendations for A4 binders/hole punch? I'm leaning towards the Atoma discbound binder system, but if there's something better I'm open to suggestions.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
licking noodler's ink is a coin flip because yeah it has the world government mind control chemicals filtered out BUT it has all the cool chemicals banned by our overreaching liberal government added in

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

are there any recommended brands or nibs that are less likely to have nib creep using noodler's inks?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Also if you spill noodler's ink on anything it will never, ever come out because it's specifically designed to resist the terrifying scourge of people having their bank accounts emptied by check-washers.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Sagebrush posted:

Also if you spill noodler's ink on anything it will never, ever come out because it's specifically designed to resist the terrifying scourge of people having their bank accounts emptied by check-washers.

Ha, I've just been reading through his webpage about all the things that make the ink special and I keep thinking, who writes that many checks any more? Is there some other kind of fraud using handwriting? I guess if you're some kind of business disbursing a bunch of checks a day it makes sense, but even then, why aren't you electronically printing them anyway?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Presumably Nathan writes that many checks, because not every store let you pay with a sack full of tiny gold cubes

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
The explanation for virtually every weird thing about Noodler's: The owner, Nathan Tardiff, is a certifiable lunatic, and we should all be glad he spends his time making pretty inks and semi-functional fountain pens rather than literally anything else.

Pixelante
Mar 16, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.

grack posted:

The explanation for virtually every weird thing about Noodler's: The owner, Nathan Tardiff, is a certifiable lunatic, and we should all be glad he spends his time making pretty inks and semi-functional fountain pens rather than literally anything else.

Ink not bombs.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I did enjoy how even that fluff piece on the resurgence of fountain pens that ran in the NYTimes yesterday couldn't help but mention Tardif's, uh, eccentricities.

quote:

It also makes sense that there’s some pen political drama, captured by the ink maker Nathan Tardif, whose Noodler’s inks are known for their inventiveness, affordability and the libertarian convictions hidden in their charming illustrated labels.

Mr. Tardif follows his ethics of self-sufficiency in the woods of Massachusetts, where he concocts and bottles his inks by himself. His Bernanke Black Ink is fast drying — an allusion to the Federal Reserve’s act of essentially printing money by lowering interest rates during the financial crisis — and his Berning Red, also fast drying, a red for lefties, shows Bernie Sanders’s head in front of the state seal of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Azerbaijan. Mr. Tardif’s says his Warden’s ink has properties that make it fraud proof.

Also, the description of Brian Goulet is a trip

quote:

Brian Goulet, of Goulet pens, who had the handsomeness of a 1950s young dad, thick hair like mink, broad shoulders, a warm handshake.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


howe_sam posted:

I did enjoy how even that fluff piece on the resurgence of fountain pens that ran in the NYTimes yesterday couldn't help but mention Tardif's, uh, eccentricities.


Also, the description of Brian Goulet is a trip

Lol "or “fps” as they’re called on the Reddit board where they live when not at shows or events." Like a lair that they crawl back to, leaving shiny trails of ink.

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

Sagebrush posted:

Also if you spill noodler's ink on anything it will never, ever come out because it's specifically designed to resist the terrifying scourge of people having their bank accounts emptied by check-washers.

I've found from experience when I dropped my bottle of Blue upon the plains of Abraham that alcohol gel and mopping up with paper towels does a perfectly good job if you don't give the ink time to dry.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg
Noodler's ink pro tip, just water it down a little. The stuff is so concentrated that it usually doesn't affect the color at all, and it makes it flow better. It also prevents it from clogging quite so quickly. This doesn't apply to Baystate inks. Don't mess with Baystate inks, they're... Unique. I do love BSB though.

Pioneer42
Jun 8, 2010

grack posted:

The explanation for virtually every weird thing about Noodler's: The owner, Nathan Tardiff, is a certifiable lunatic, and we should all be glad he spends his time making pretty inks and semi-functional fountain pens rather than literally anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqLmMbq_eFo

If you want to understand him a little better, this interview came out this year and its quite interesting.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



atholbrose posted:

A TWSBI Diamond 580, or, to save a bit, an Eco. Nice pens, good writers, massive ink capacity.

Thanks I'll probably place an order today :)

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.
College Slice

tangy yet delightful posted:

Thanks I'll probably place an order today :)

Just want to affirm that it is a pretty cool pen. I'm thinking of getting another one to give to my sister as a belated gift. Also, the comment about the ink capacity is no joke.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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Has anyone tried a Vanishing Point stub nib? I'm thinking of ordering a silver colored nib for my silver pen.

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007

Heath posted:

Has anyone tried a Vanishing Point stub nib? I'm thinking of ordering a silver colored nib for my silver pen.

I use one every day and like it. Not too complicated, enough character to add some flair to daily writing.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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I have a Nemosine stub in a Vac700R and it's great, but I've heard Pilot stubs are underwhelming.

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007

The VP stub is a very small stub because the VP is a very small nib. It adds some character but you’re still working with a VP

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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That's fine, I tend to prefer a finer point. I'll probably go with a stub.

It's kind of ridiculous how expensive the nib unit itself is, it would almost seem more economical to just buy a whole second pen.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


I always viewed the VP nib units as more replacements for busted ones rather than something to swap out for that reason.

Overall it seems like gold nib replacements tend to be like 70% of the actual pen cost.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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The pen I got was a steel nibbed Capless, because the silver one is only available with the steel nib, and I'd like to have a gold one, but I would also like it to be rhodium colored. It's partially an upgrade to a gold nib, but also for aesthetic reasons.

I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet, but I would like one.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
My favorite Noodler's ink is Black Swan in Australian Rose, never have to wet the pen, even with weeks between.

Of course, my only pens are Lamy Safaris, one M and one F tip, along with a few crow feather dip pens, so I feel like a complete newbie compared to everyone here. Don't even have a Pilot Metropolitan!

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007
Any of you have a twsbi go? Does it make for a decent pocket pen?

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

On a similar note, I'm thinking of finally hopping on the TWSBI train. Does anyone have advice on choosing between the Eco and Go? I'm looking for a pocket pen that can get pretty beat up around the office while still showing off pretty ink colors.

(I'm assuming the TWSBI nibs are reasonable. Right now I find some important features are (1) the smoothness of the write/nib - I hate feeling like I'm writing with something scratchy and (2) the pen not drying out too quickly, since I sometimes go a week or two without using one of my FPs and instead use some cheapo pens around the office.)

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Can't really help with Eco vs Go, besides that I love my Eco.

But for nibs, I greatly prefer my Eco's B nib. I have an M in my Diamond 580, and it feels way worse to write with. Could just be bad nib lottery luck, of course.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



ibntumart posted:

Just want to affirm that it is a pretty cool pen. I'm thinking of getting another one to give to my sister as a belated gift. Also, the comment about the ink capacity is no joke.

Ordered on the 27th and I'm guessing Goulet is taking the entire week (maybe through NYE?) off because my order hasn't shipped yet :(

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

tangy yet delightful posted:

Ordered on the 27th and I'm guessing Goulet is taking the entire week (maybe through NYE?) off because my order hasn't shipped yet :(

They're around, but they've taken five business days to ship my order during non holiday or busy times. I don't think I've ever had an order ship in a timely fashion from them. On average it's been 3 business days before the order gets shipped for me.

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tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



I must have gotten lucky then with my previous order shipping very quickly, oh well not life or death just excited to get it :shobon:

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