Best Not WWE Name This poll is closed. |
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Up North | 70 | 41.92% | |
New York | 21 | 12.57% | |
Titan | 12 | 7.19% | |
Stamford | 18 | 10.78% | |
The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel | 46 | 27.54% | |
Total: | 167 votes |
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1078482408012431360?s=19
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 03:49 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 09:43 |
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1078485164098023429 This will get my vote for as long as it lasts in the tournament
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 03:58 |
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Rey at least got to win the title at WrestleMania against the guy who was out of line.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:09 |
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Oh god this is hard. Going with the racist feud because every time I watch it its somehow worse than it was before.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:12 |
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Went with Booker because I prioritize harming the living over harming the dead. Now you can say "But Eddy's family and friends" But I doubt Booker's family and friends enjoyed seeing him get punked by a dude who was racist to his face and that was it, no moral. And then that dude gets to go on to become superchamp and spend his career acting out his own fanfiction for his own life and become heir to a billion dollar company and live a charmed life and rehire another Hulk Hogan and wear stealth Neo-Nazi adornment in a big Wrestlemania entrance and... ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Dec 28, 2018 |
# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:47 |
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how did I never make this connection https://twitter.com/uzionmain/status/1078497830988173313?s=21
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:52 |
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I had to go with racist HHH because he won the goddamn match against Booker T in such a definitive manner. They could have easily had HHH win the title back at the next PPV or even on an episode of Raw if they were so goddamned determined to keep HHH's reign of terror going on. Even a Dusty Finish where HHH retains would have been better then what we got at Wrestlemania 19.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:57 |
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I feel like Hogan needs to hear that response about 30 times a day. And also be Scissor-Kicked in the back of the head by Booker T. bartok posted:I had to go with racist HHH because he won the goddamn match against Booker T in such a definitive manner. They could have easily had HHH win the title back at the next PPV or even on an episode of Raw if they were so goddamned determined to keep HHH's reign of terror going on. Even a Dusty Finish where HHH retains would have been better then what we got at Wrestlemania 19. "But he needed to be kept strong for Goldberg" He tells himself twice a day to convince himself he's not a racist rear end in a top hat. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Dec 28, 2018 |
# ? Dec 28, 2018 04:59 |
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What makes it worse on a practical level is that even though Goldberg was coming, Raw had an alarming shortage of available babyfaces at the time (Austin was pretty much done, Shawn Michaels was feuding with Jericho, Rob Van Dam seemed to have had his goose cooked for something, etc). I mean, to me, this is how The Hurricane of all people ended up feuding with The Rock... and that was great but still a bit out of nowhere. They could have easily had Booker win the title by beating the racist to become the much-needed superface alongside Goldberg (whose first WWE feud did notably not need the title). I guess only certain kinds of Uppity WCW Guys get to win at some point though.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:25 |
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Wait, Rock came back in the same timeframe? And it never occurred to them that the money match was Goldberg v Rock? I need to remember my drat calendar. If true, that may be the height of HHH's Rock complex.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:32 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Wait, Rock came back in the same timeframe? They did Goldberg/Rock at Backlash.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:35 |
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Eddy's In Hell is almost quaint compared to some of the entries involving death exploitation (deathsploitation?) but Booker/HHH is unforgivably racist and insane. Like, it'd be nuts if that was an angle from the fuckin 80's, let alone when it actually was.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:39 |
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fatherofmustard posted:They did Goldberg/Rock at Backlash. Where Rock snorted ALL OF THE COCAINE.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:43 |
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loving hell, this is really tough. I think I'm gonna have to go with Booker but drat it's close
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:45 |
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fatherofmustard posted:They did Goldberg/Rock at Backlash. Was Rock gone by Summerslam? This isn't even a derail. This is an elaboration. HHH trashing a black man to preserve a money match that was inferior to a money match involving another black man. Was this...double racism? "I have to be kept strong so I can have the big match with Goldberg instead of the Rock." Has that element even been explored here? ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Dec 28, 2018 |
# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:45 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Was Rock gone by Summerslam? Rock was done by Backlash. Part of his WrestleMania win was the writing on the wall that "beating Steve Austin at WrestleMania" was the only thing left for the Rock. Afterwards, he had no reason to stick around and he just put Goldberg over before going back to Hollywood. He didn't appear again until next WrestleMania's build and after WMXX, he didn't wrestle for another eight years.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 05:57 |
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Eddie stuff is bad but it's typical bad wrestling bad. The Booker T stuff is awful and racist in a way that only the WWE manages
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 06:29 |
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"Eddy's in Hell" is a classic line, and funny. the guy is dead, who cares what he wanted. the Booker T/HHH stuff is just, ugly, not funny at all.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 06:35 |
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Gavok posted:Rock was done by Backlash. Part of his WrestleMania win was the writing on the wall that "beating Steve Austin at WrestleMania" was the only thing left for the Rock. Afterwards, he had no reason to stick around and he just put Goldberg over before going back to Hollywood. He didn't appear again until next WrestleMania's build and after WMXX, he didn't wrestle for another eight years. Well at least there's that. I guess.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 06:36 |
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Triple H is loving trash
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 13:41 |
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And we get to sit here, watch him live his best loving life and deal with the Chernobyl of radioactive toxicity he leaves in his wake.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 13:48 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Well at least there's that. Though to circle it back to Triple H being a dick, Rock spent his final months putting over Booker T, the Hurricane and Goldberg and, well, see what Triple H did with them.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 14:28 |
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If it was just the “Eddy’s down there, IN HELL” line (which I think is the intent) and not ALL of the Eddysploitation then yeah HHH/Booker is way worse. But my brain refuses to separate that one Randy Orton line from the totality of shittiness that followed for like a year after Eddy died.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 14:40 |
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People are quick to say "Well, Eddy would have loved that line!" but nobody seems to jump in and suggest "Come on, Eddy would have loved watching his wife be degraded and humiliated on national television for almost a decade after his death!"
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 15:23 |
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I question that the WWE knows what the dead would want done with their memory, but they keep saying time and time again that they and their living family, who by the way are totally not reliant on the WWE for their well-being, would love to have their death exploited for cash so who am I to argue?
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 15:26 |
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The thing that gets me about the Eddysploitation is they couldn't even have his nephew be the one to defend his honor.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 15:31 |
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my wrestling rule of thumb is that you can say whatever terrible racist monstrous line you want just as long as the violence directed towards you is immediate and equally terrible. Use the N word? get stabbed Make fun of a dead brother? get your head kicked in Wrestling very rarely rewards me with this.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 16:07 |
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Davros1 posted:The thing that gets me about the Eddysploitation is they couldn't even have his nephew be the one to defend his honor. Yeah, having Chavo also there made the whole thing super weird. I get that nobody wants face Chavo superpush, but it was so weird how Rey was posthumously Eddy's best friend and his legacy.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 16:17 |
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Is it also true that despite WWE then giving Vickie a job out of sympathy and from the bottom of their deep, deep hearts, it turned out that at some point she couldn't make the payments on her (modesty sized) family home anyway? Maybe Big Show should have had more burrito diarrhoea over Eddie's grave or something to really draw the business in.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 16:54 |
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Is it also true that despite WWE then giving Vickie a job out of sympathy and from the bottom of their deep, deep hearts, it turned out that at some point she couldn't make the payments on her (modesty sized) family home anyway? Maybe Big Show should have had more burrito diarrhoea over Eddie's grave or something to really draw the business in. not really sure but its pretty telling that as soon as Vickie got her college degree she put her notice in.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 17:13 |
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if this tournament were to happen again in the future, or a similar one, please consider changing the rules so that you vote for the option that you think is less bad. i feel really uncomfortable voting "for" the worst promotional tactics and it's becoming more and more of a drain on my psyche as the less-bad things are being filtered out. If you try this and it does not work out the way you like, you may go back to the original method in the third installment. if this were to end up happening, i would hope that you consider trying my way one more time in order to be certain that it isn't the better option.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 17:34 |
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1078697906767609857
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 18:06 |
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Ok so devil’s advocate here. The Owen Hart thing was an accident (a preventable one, born out of recklessness and disregard, but I don’t think Vince McMahon willfully killed Owen Hart). Not paying road expenses is one of a zillion labor abuses that has benefited the company’s bottom line for years and years. So if we’re just talking “sleaziest business practices” then for sure it’s road expenses. If we’re talking “shittiest thing WWE ever did” then yeah, Owen, no question. Labor abuse is a thing that really pisses me off and it’s insane how many things this company has done that I find more offensive than the way they exploit their workers.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 18:24 |
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I think here is where I would echo the general concern that the Owen Hart thing probably should have been consolidated into one entry. The Owen thing was straight pig headed negligence on the part of WWE and the fact that it turned out less tragically than it could have is honestly insane, but it could resulted in two fatalities if it had gone as planned so again, gently caress WWE.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 18:44 |
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I voted for road costs because https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1078699379509420032?s=20
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 18:54 |
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really part of an ongoing trend where they love to monetize the rot. like how they dont have poo poo for jim neidhart to do until hes dead and they dont have to pay him
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 19:15 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:really part of an ongoing trend where they love to monetize the rot. like how they dont have poo poo for jim neidhart to do until hes dead and they dont have to pay him Yeah nothing for years even with his daughter and then suddenly, Jim is on the table.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 19:18 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:I voted for road costs because https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1078699379509420032?s=20 Jesus Christ I didn’t even think of this. Owen is going to win (the whole tournament I think), but I voted road costs too after seeing this.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 20:06 |
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Know what's something I just thought of that makes Owen's death worse? WWE learned nothing from it. They still do stunts that should be practiced and trained for in one go. I remember Sami Zayn talking about the Hell in a Cell where he saves Kevin Owens from Shane McMahon falling on him. According to Sami they didn't practice that or time it our or anything, they were just told "Oh yeah, just move when Shane starts falling". Owens death didn't convince them that they should spend money and time on the incredibly dangerous stunts they'll ask wrestlers to do. They still have them doing insane poo poo with no oversight or protection.
Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Dec 28, 2018 |
# ? Dec 28, 2018 20:19 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 09:43 |
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Kevin Owens going off a cage for Braun recently was so loving stupid and helped no one except maybe Kevin's doctor. WWE has turned Foley bumps into momentary pop getters.
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# ? Dec 28, 2018 20:20 |