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I stopoed using cursive after joining the military where you have to write in all caps block lettering, but i knew a mechanic whos log entries looked like a human typewriter.
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It's likely some classist poo poo, there's kind of this thing that smart people write cursive and dumb people print. Cursive is a signal you've been well educated, and taking it out of schools means that schools are making kids dumber. Somehow. I'm just speculating from facebook posts of people my age lamenting their kids aren't learning cursive and it means the school is somehow failing them. Then they complain that they themselves had to do math in school and how dumb that was because they claim they never use it.
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Dec 28, 2018 18:46
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:Learning cursive is very important for developing fine motor skills, and leaving it out of the curriculum is one contributing factor to kids being so uncoordinated nowadays. Using phones and tablets for everything from the age of 4 is the biggest factor, of course. citation needed quote:“There is no conclusive evidence that there is a benefit for learning cursive for a child’s cognitive development,” says Karin Harman James, an associate professor in the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at Indiana University, who studies early brain development as a function of learning experiences. maybe let's fund PE again instead actually quote:Tests on writing speed have been fairly inconclusive in the past. But one of the best and most recent was conducted in 2013 by Florence Bara, now at the University of Toulouse in France, and Marie-France Morin of the University of Sherbrooke in Canada. They compared writing speeds for French-speaking primary pupils in their respective countries. While cursive is quite rigidly enforced in France, teachers in Canada are more free to decide which style to teach, and when. Some Canadians teach manuscript first and cursive later; some introduce cursive straight away in first grade. lol yeah that's about what I expected (like I said earlier, most people just do a mish mash) Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 18:50 on Dec 28, 2018 |
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Dec 28, 2018 18:46
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Subjunctive posted:I would be very interested to read that. my experience and that of loosely polled friends is that cursive goes a fair bit faster, though I’ll admit I haven’t timed it I went googling and found this blurb about it: quote:Tests on writing speed have been fairly inconclusive in the past. But one of the best and most recent was conducted in 2013 by Florence Bara, now at the University of Toulouse in France, and Marie-France Morin of the University of Sherbrooke in Canada. They compared writing speeds for French-speaking primary pupils in their respective countries. While cursive is quite rigidly enforced in France, teachers in Canada are more free to decide which style to teach, and when. Some Canadians teach manuscript first and cursive later; some introduce cursive straight away in first grade. Around 2013 is about when I remember hearing about this paper so I think it's the same one. The website I grabbed that blurb from unhelpfully didn't provide a link to the paper or even the actual name of the paper, but I think it's this one: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pits.21691 I think the general conclusion is "you write fastest with whatever the hell writing form you're good at writing fastest with" 
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Dec 28, 2018 18:50
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Moridin920 posted:citation needed PE (But eliminate organised highschool football gently caress that poo poo so loving hard hell eliminate all loving team sports where teenagers are expected to act like pro athletes in everything except pay), Art, Music. That would probably help with thinks like... Well, *everything*
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Dec 28, 2018 18:51
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Tashilicious posted:PE (But eliminate organised highschool football gently caress that poo poo so loving hard hell eliminate all loving team sports where teenagers are expected to act like pro athletes in everything except pay), Art, Music. That would probably help with thinks like... Well, *everything* You were in the marching band weren't you
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Dec 28, 2018 18:53
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Shame Boy posted:You were in the marching band weren't you No. We didn't have band or music in my high school. Or any art classes past secondary 1.
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Dec 28, 2018 18:54
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Cursive is quickly becoming the fedora of the communication world.
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Dec 28, 2018 18:55
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Tashilicious posted:No. We didn't have band or music in my high school. Or any art classes past secondary 1. How could you not have marching band? Who will play the football team's theme songs as they get on the charter bus rented specifically to take them to state finals while the entire school is required to stop whatever classwork they're doing and come out to see them off 
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Dec 28, 2018 18:57
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Picnic Princess posted:Cursive is quickly becoming the fedora of the communication world. 𝑀'𝓁𝒶𝒹𝓎
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Dec 28, 2018 18:57
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It's loving insane and dumb that we don't fund that kind of stuff anymore though. Testing testing testing get into college academics reeeeeeeeee. Meanwhile no art, no music, nothing fuckin cool in science classes, no PE, cut it all. Even nicer schools with award winning drama departments get that poo poo cut (Carlsbad High School). Doesn't matter. Duck bullets, worry about shooters and rapist teachers. 2-3 hours of homework per class per night (this is legit what my teachers said and thought was reasonable!!!). Then we wonder why kids are acting like PTSD cases lol
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Dec 28, 2018 18:57
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Shame Boy posted:How could you not have marching band? Who will play the football team's theme songs as they get on the charter bus rented specifically to take them to state finals while the entire school is required to stop whatever classwork they're doing and come out to see them off I live in Canada. We don't spent millions for highschoolers to give each other brain damage.
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Dec 28, 2018 19:00
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Tashilicious posted:I live in Canada. You don't have cheerleaders??
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Dec 28, 2018 19:02
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i went to a magnet school in the heart of the sec and we didn't have a marching band because we didn't have any sports for it also you could letter in radio or a foreign language
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Dec 28, 2018 19:02
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EvilJoven posted:But at least when the revolution comes I might be relatively safe because last I heard bicycle mechanics seldomly get put up against the wall. Of course, you will be needed to maintain the cycle of vengeance
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Dec 28, 2018 19:16
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Organized team sports are extremely important for children (particularly boys).
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Dec 28, 2018 19:17
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spacetoaster posted:Organized team sports are extremely important for children (particularly boys). Yes that brain damage is the only way of turning them into men.
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Dec 28, 2018 19:18
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Sport programs also are the number one provider of preemptive corrective rape, and you’ll recall that America is a big supporter of corrective rape
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Dec 28, 2018 19:51
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Tashilicious posted:Yes that brain damage is the only way of turning them into men. do you have any idea how hard it is to not make the obvious joke here
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Dec 28, 2018 19:55
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Turtle Sandbox posted:I stopoed using cursive after joining the military where you have to write in all caps block lettering, but i knew a mechanic whos log entries looked like a human typewriter. I got good at legibly printing full capitals for the same reason but my personal handwriting was still nightmarish to the point where on slow days people would steal my notebook and attempt to decipher it like hieroglyphs. didn't help that I use a personal shorthand too so even half the letters are straight gibberish
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Dec 28, 2018 19:57
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spacetoaster posted:Organized team sports are extremely important for children (particularly boys). So we should ban them then, we really don't need more boys
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Dec 28, 2018 20:01
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T-man posted:do you have any idea how hard it is to not make the obvious joke here If you dont go for the low dangling fruit, why even bother being alive
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Dec 28, 2018 20:02
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Illuyankas posted:Of course, you will be needed to maintain the cycle of vengeance 
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Dec 28, 2018 20:11
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Lots of people had brain damage itt
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Dec 28, 2018 20:13
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steinrokkan posted:Lots of people had brain damage itt It's okay, you can say c-spam mod here.
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Dec 28, 2018 20:19
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Shame Boy posted:So we should ban them then, we really don't need more boys I'm fine with boys, so long as they don't go around being boys. (bois > boys)
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Dec 28, 2018 20:20
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Replace football teams with mandatory yoga, tight pants and testosterone blockers so we can finally realize the secret gay agenda dream of the queering of america dammit 
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Dec 28, 2018 20:25
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Shame Boy posted:Replace football teams with mandatory yoga, tight pants and testosterone blockers so we can finally realize the secret gay agenda dream of the queering of america dammit still not as gay as football
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Dec 28, 2018 20:26
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Plank Walker posted:still not as gay as football Which football?
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Dec 28, 2018 20:31
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Outrail posted:Which football? american football where you dress up in tight pants and pads that make your shoulders look extra broad and then stand behind 5 300 lb dudes bent over and grab a ball from between the middle one's loins european football is not gay, it teaches you the most straight man tactic of whining and rolling around like a baby whenever you encounter anything remotely close to harming you
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Dec 28, 2018 20:35
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spacetoaster posted:Organized team sports are extremely important for children (particularly boys). And that's why you make them competitive, to deprive the bottom percentiles of kids Plank Walker posted:european football is not gay, it teaches you the most straight man tactic of whining and rolling around like a baby whenever you encounter anything remotely close to harming you Also ball-grabbing
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Dec 28, 2018 20:54
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make greco/roman wrestling great again by outlawing gridiron
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Dec 28, 2018 20:59
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Tashilicious posted:Yes that brain damage is the only way of turning them into men. I know you're sheltered, but there are lots of sports besides cheerleading. Shame Boy posted:So we should ban them then, we really don't need more boys You'll be pleased to know we're well on our way! hackbunny posted:And that's why you make them competitive, to deprive the bottom percentiles of kids What exactly qualifies a kid as "bottom percentile"? Also, what are they being deprived of? 
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Dec 28, 2018 22:35
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the only bottom percentile i'm concerned about is my lovers viral load
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Dec 28, 2018 22:59
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The American fascination with mass audience high school sports is perverse, and another example of how America is poisoning the world. In my school we just played volleyball and soccer in ad hoc teams and it was fun as well as good for us.
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Dec 28, 2018 23:00
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Winning, mostly
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Dec 28, 2018 23:02
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spacetoaster posted:I know you're sheltered, but there are lots of sports besides cheerleading. Lol why are you poting in CSPAM I thought they only let gay communists past the front door
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Dec 28, 2018 23:13
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Subjunctive posted:I would be very interested to read that. my experience and that of loosely polled friends is that cursive goes a fair bit faster, though I’ll admit I haven’t timed it In my experience cursive goes significantly faster. Only with my chicken scratch you can't read any of what I wrote so I have to rewrite it all anyway. When those news articles first dropped the only person in the office who was glad to hear it was the little old lady who got on a rant about how it's about time and she'll be happy when she can write a letter to her grandson and he can read it.
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Dec 28, 2018 23:23
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Crazycryodude posted:Lol why are you poting in CSPAM I thought they only let gay communists past the front door What makes you think I'm not a gay communist?
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Len posted:In my experience cursive goes significantly faster. Only with my chicken scratch you can't read any of what I wrote so I have to rewrite it all anyway. most of my writing is notes for myself that I have to transcribe later, so others being able to read it isn’t a huge deal
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