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Your Parents posted:Mattis is a dumb piece of poo poo killer why are liberals lionizing him? Charles Manson could write a prison letter saying orange man bad and get tearful apologia from you people lol Your mask slipped a little bit there bud
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*person supporting a fascist right wing american military guy who is being rebranded as a centrist liberal voice* this guy said a meme from online. He must be evil.
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I really hate Trump because he's such a great scapegoat that like Henry Kissinger or Dick Cheney could come out and go this bastard Trump he's impolite! You have to be evil quietly! And suddenly a handful of articles in the nyt and wapo would come out saying how stately and respectable these insane psychotic killers are, and tens of thousands of of forum posts get generated unironically welcoming them to the resistance. It's gross. Mattis is evil. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 28, 2018 17:02
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Your Parents posted:*person supporting a fascist right wing american military guy who is being rebranded as a centrist liberal voice* this guy said a meme from online. He must be evil. You nosedived in this lovely troll fairly quickly, just admit it.
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Dec 28, 2018 17:03
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Your Parents posted:I really hate Trump because he's such a great scapegoat that like Henry Kissinger or Dick Cheney could come out and go this bastard Trump he's impolite! You have to be evil quietly! And suddenly a handful of articles in the nyt and wapo would come out saying how stately and respectable these insane psychotic killers are, and tens of thousands of of forum posts get generated unironically welcoming them to the resistance. It's gross. Mattis is evil. ok
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Like the entire conflict this time is that Mattis was aggressively pushing for regime change in Syria and now Trump is backing out because he's an idiot who thinks he's making a great deal. It's not like, a good thing to suddenly support meaningless wars in the middle east and racist killers in the military just because Trump arbitrarily decided to back out of one of them during a dementia episode.
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Dec 28, 2018 17:14
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Your Parents posted:tens of thousands of of forum posts get generated unironically welcoming them to the resistance. It's gross. This isn't actually happening you wierdo.
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sean10mm posted:This isn't actually happening you wierdo. Not just here, goofball. Twitter and Facebook are forums for discussion too.
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Your Parents posted:Mattis is a dumb piece of poo poo killer why are liberals lionizing him? Charles Manson could write a prison letter saying orange man bad and get tearful apologia from you people lol Don't try to weasel out.
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Your Parents posted:Mattis is a dumb piece of poo poo killer why are liberals lionizing him? Charles Manson could write a prison letter saying orange man bad and get tearful apologia from you people lol Because Trump's hosed up approach to foriegn policy is so bad we've been treated to Noam Chomski: Interventionist
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HootTheOwl posted:Because Trump's hosed up approach to foriegn policy is so bad we've been treated to Noam Chomski: Interventionist Yeah, Chomski’s wrong too. It’s such a narrow gap of possibility, to actually see America disengage from a war, that you should leap on it ferociously when you see it.
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Your Parents posted:Not just here, goofball. Twitter and Facebook are forums for discussion too. Brokebrained loving idiots will say anything if you seek out brokebrain idiots. So congratulations on getting fussy in this thread over dumbasses being morons on Twitter and Facebook, the websites for dumbass morons.
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Hello US NEWS thread, this is the news thread. *sharpens knife* How Leftists Can Legislate by Nathan Robinson for Current Affairs.
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Chomsky's opinion on the Syria withdrawal has been being mischaracterized. Basically it's as follows: -The Syrian civil war and the rise of Daesh, and for a large part all conflict in the Middle East, is directly the result of partition and intervention by imperialist nations. -The US invasion in Iraq and intervention in Syria only exacerbated the problems there, and were immoral. -A successful Daesh would inevitably become an imperialist state, and a deeply oppressive one at that, and since the US was already dedicated to intervening, the one of the silver linings was 'at least it'll stop Daesh' -The other silver lining was the formation of a nascent Kurdistan, which is a step towards collapsing the partitions of the Middle East and creating just societies without imperialist intervention. -Therefore guaranteeing Kurd independence, despite being an imperialist policy, is minimally invasive and supports anti-imperialist results and corrects one of the great injustices perpetrated in the region. Basically the position comes down to "well if we're going to be imperialist anyway at least we could try to get some good out of it, instead of giving up when we run out of easy targets to blow up". I'm not entirely sure I agree with Chomsky's position but it's definitely not 'lol Chomsky is an interventionist now'.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078625779670503426 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078632205210058752 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078634025412116480 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078638249562775552 i think he will do it.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078625779670503426 I'm not at all sure he can, but if he did I suspect the southern red senators would flip their poo poo.
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I think Tibalt is right, this could be a long rear end shutdown. He knows the optics of not getting his wall.
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Your Parents posted:Mattis is a dumb piece of poo poo killer why are liberals lionizing him? Charles Manson could write a prison letter saying orange man bad and get tearful apologia from you people lol I would be shocked and terrified if Charles Manson were to write a letter at any point after November 19, 2017.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think he will do it. I hope so, it would be a good way for Republicans to lose every border state, and lose every "economic" conservative still out there. I doubt there is any large corporation in the US that doesn't depend on products moving across the Mexican border to some degree.
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Yes lets just completely cut off trade with our third largest trading partner.
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Money to 'finish' the wall. That's an interesting word selection there
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think he will do it. There's no good way forward for Trump and the GOP on this. He owns the shutdown and the border wall. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets, and the worse his bargaining position is, but he can't give in. It's like trying to negotiate in a room with a limited supply of oxygen while your opponent is outside. Every word you speak and every breath you take gets you closer to dying or giving up. The best move would be to accept defeat as quickly as possible in order to take the smallest loss possible, but you can also just keep banking on your genius brain to somehow convince the person outside of the room to give you what you want. Trump's never been in a situation like this because he's always been able to muscle people with his money, so I really think he's going to just try to strong arm this too, but it's not going to work. The only wildcard is when and how the GOP steps in to save him from himself. They probably have to let his approval ratings take a poo poo before they can turn their knives on him  He's going to lose the moneyed interests or the MAGA base, and he got himself into this mess in the first place by trying to appeal to the chuds.
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paternity suitor posted:There's no good way forward for Trump and the GOP on this. He owns the shutdown and the border wall. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets, and the worse his bargaining position is, but he can't give in. It's like trying to negotiate in a room with a limited supply of oxygen while your opponent is outside. Every word you speak and every breath you take gets you closer to dying or giving up. The best move would be to accept defeat as quickly as possible in order to take the smallest loss possible, but you can also just keep banking on your genius brain to somehow convince the person outside of the room to give you what you want. Trump's never been in a situation like this because he's always been able to muscle people with his money, so I really think he's going to just try to strong arm this too, but it's not going to work. The only wildcard is when and how the GOP steps in to save him from himself. They probably have to let his approval ratings take a poo poo before they can turn their knives on him yeah, its the beginning of the end. i remember his ghost writer talking about how he is scared about what happens when trump is inevitably pushed into a corner and i think we are reaching that point. Bird in a Blender posted:I hope so, it would be a good way for Republicans to lose every border state, and lose every "economic" conservative still out there. I doubt there is any large corporation in the US that doesn't depend on products moving across the Mexican border to some degree. i dislike accerlationisnism but i agree with this case. i think he will do it because he is a spitful rear end in a top hat and he might as well burn all the bridges.
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By the way when I say Mexico is the third largest trading partner, they aren't like some distant third, they are a third that is very close to 2nd and they are way ahead of most of the rest of the top 10 or 15 trading partners https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/top/top1712yr.html
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Rex-Goliath posted:Money to 'finish' the wall. That's an interesting word selection there By the time the 2020 stuff kicks off the wall's just going to be "finished" according to Trump and debates are going to be this nonsensical mess of Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck arguments over whether it exists or not and Trump will like refuse to take part in a CNN debate because they aired "fake" footage of the border with no wall and instead the President will do an interview on Sarah Huckabee Sander's new Fox News show where they talk about the Golden Age for America.
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A good majority of the effects felt by the next recession will be traceable directly to Trump. Just as Planned (in my head). *Monkey's Paw finishes 4-year-long curl* 
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Grouchio posted:A good majority of the effects felt by the next recession will be traceable directly to Trump. Just as Planned (in my head).
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Grouchio posted:A good majority of the effects felt by the next recession will be traceable directly to Trump. Just as Planned (in my head). It's already really obvious 
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mystes posted:The republicans always screw up the economy and then the democrats take over and get blamed for it. If a democratic president wins in 2020 this time will be no different. Also already really obvious 
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mystes posted:The republicans always screw up the economy and then the democrats take over and get blamed for it. If a democratic president wins in 2020 this time will be no different.
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I feel like there's a really good chance Trump will take the blame if the economy blows up because it's really been almost non-stop coverage of his dubious economic moves and experts saying they're really bad and will do big damage. Trade Wars, humiliating himself repeatedly while China looks like the adult in the room, botched negotiations, the alienation of our trading allies, threatening the Fed, ignoring his advisors on every issue, the giant tax cut that nobody normal saw any benefit out of, these are things that can and will stick out in the memory in a way that previous Republicans president's economic moves did not. This is compounded by the fact that modern algorythm-based stock trading is causing a lot of these effects in real-time in a way no President has had to deal with before, the fact that Donald himself has constantly pointed at the Stock Market as the ONLY worthwhile indicator of his economic successes, and the fact that many of his own followers constantly make it a talking point that the President's policies are going to cause short-term harm for theoretical long term gains off of America "no longer being exploited," or whatever. Trump is practically stacking the deck as hard as he can to ensure it will be difficult if not impossible to swing the blame away from him, compared to how things went with Bush Jr. and Reagan/Bush Sr. before him.
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Stanislaus sheriff slams CA sanctuary policies after arrest of suspected cop-killerquote:A day laborer with gang affiliations and past arrests for drunken driving, who was in the country illegally, was captured outside Bakersfield in the high-profile killing of a Stanislaus County police officer, officials announced Friday. Wonder if the president might have an opinion on this case.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I'm not at all sure he can, but if he did I suspect the southern red senators would flip their poo poo. He would actually get impeached and convicted if he did that. The stock market would crater as the economy came to a screeching halt and nose dived into a deep recession.
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selec posted:Yeah, Chomski’s wrong too. It’s such a narrow gap of possibility, to actually see America disengage from a war, that you should leap on it ferociously when you see it. Are. Not. Disengaging. From. A. War. We're swapping US troops with US weapons that aren't currently committing a genocide for NATO troops with US weapons that are hell-bent on another genocide (that they also won't admit to) In no way can trumps temper tantrum be construed as "disengagement", you have to be insanely broke-brained to think that.
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withak posted:Stanislaus sheriff slams CA sanctuary policies after arrest of suspected cop-killer I hope the people in that county vote that fuckface out on his rear end. Grandstanding dickhead deserves to lose his job for using his position as a soapbox and one of his fellow officer's corpses as a loudspeaker for his personal politics. I'm so sick of Sheriffs with dreams of right wing political grift. May they all end up like that one rear end in a top hat Clarke, already forgotten after selling his soul to Trump and getting nothing in return for it.
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Sanguinia posted:I hope the people in that county vote that fuckface out on his rear end. Grandstanding dickhead deserves to lose his job for using his position as a soapbox and one of his fellow officer's corpses as a loudspeaker for his personal politics. I'm so sick of Sheriffs with dreams of right wing political grift. May they all end up like that one rear end in a top hat Clarke, already forgotten after selling his soul to Trump and getting nothing in return for it. It's Stanislaus County, they mostly agree with him.
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ricecult posted:Anecdotally, it reminds me of my problem with anti-vaxers, in that if there was an actual verifiable problem with the system in place, these ridiculous complaints muddy the waters and make it harder to actually address. That and they’re unrepentant child abusers.
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Solkanar512 posted:That and they’re unrepentant child abusers. Yes, and certainly the more immediate evil.
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