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Nephthys posted:I like how everyone complaining about how bullshit this bit was didn't even bother to mention how Giorno was infected with a virus that turns you into melty goo within 30 seconds.... for at least 5 minutes, only getting some slight blemishes. Oh, I never commented on it in the thread, but I definitely noticed that Giorno only got mild blemishes while Illuso, who was infected afterwards, has his hand melt down to the bone almost immediately. Glagha posted:Also I feel like Purple Haze is one of those stands that's like "wow I really wrote myself into a corner with this didn't I" and some serious bullshit needs to get pulled to fix it. Purple Haze is basically Magician's Red or The Hand, only with a built in limitation as to why it's not used often. That being said, as someone pointed out, if Giorno just shared some more snake blood with the rest of the group...
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Giorno says that he can't control the animals, but I feel that just absolutely cannot be true, there's multiple examples where he has to be lying about that
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Expect My Mom posted:Giorno says that he can't control the animals, but I feel that just absolutely cannot be true, there's multiple examples where he has to be lying about that he doesn't control them but they generally listen to what he tells them to do.
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Pomplamoose posted:
Gold Experience is my least favourite main character Stand for the exact reasons you outline in this post, but I don't think it's ever as bad again. Plus, come on, Sticky Fingers is great so this part gets a pass, I think.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Gold Experience is my least favourite main character Stand for the exact reasons you outline in this post, but I don't think it's ever as bad again. Plus, come on, Sticky Fingers is great so this part gets a pass, I think. Remember which thread this is.
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Dec 29, 2018 19:44
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loving all these guesses at what vehicle the key goes to 
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Expect My Mom posted:Giorno says that he can't control the animals, but I feel that just absolutely cannot be true, there's multiple examples where he has to be lying about that What do you mean? My snake eats bread all the time!
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Kuvo posted:loving all these guesses at what vehicle the key goes to Is it the yellow submarine from part 3?
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No one would have ever expected the Boss to have access to a WWI-era North Sea-class airship that George Joestar II once flew, much less in good, working repair, but here we are.
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I hope the special episode is a tourist video about vacation spots in Italy and nothing else.
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Pomplamoose posted:Is it the yellow submarine from part 3? gently caress me that's a good guess
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Dec 29, 2018 20:35
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Nobody confirm or deny any guesses. We apparently have two weeks of amusement to come.
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Dec 29, 2018 20:48
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The key is to dio's road roller
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The brick snake kinda sorta makes sense if you squint a little and read a few things into the story. Basically the way it makes sense is if Gold Experience jabbed some blood with antibodies in it into Giorno and then just started creating a shitton more of said antibodies inside his body. I'm also assuming that Gold Experience can't make lifeforms that it doesn't know about, which is why it needed the snake. But yeah, this is some primo Araki Asspull right here.
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If I remember right I think the manga tried to sell that moment more by explaining a little why making the snake inside the disease cloud made it be born immune so he could use its blood to cure himself but it was still a handwave there too.
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Why'd he have to kill Bricksnake
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Oh, I never commented on it in the thread, but I definitely noticed that Giorno only got mild blemishes while Illuso, who was infected afterwards, has his hand melt down to the bone almost immediately. The virus didn't melt his hand, that was him leaving his infected flesh behind when he left the mirror world
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RatHat posted:What do you mean? My snake eats bread all the time!  I''ll give you one more chanse
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I don't mind Gold Experience for the most part, but the one thing that bothers me is that it was written to have stuff in addition to its ridiculously overpowered "creates life" thing. Not a fan of what happens when it punches people and the reflect thing it does just seems kinda off-brand. Maybe there's some extremely specific japanese pun that makes the damage reflection make sense, but I never really understood it. Snake brick vaccines are fine though. It doesn't really seem that strange to me. "Life" as a concept is forced into a brick in the specific form of a snake. In order for the brick to be a living snake in such a hostile environment, all it really needs are antibodies to this specific virus. It's dumb and deterministic, but not any dumber than anything else in the series. If anything, I'd argue that it's narratively a bit silly that Giorno gets to steal both Fugos and Abacchios spotlight. I read this years ago and while I did remember how absurdly lethal Fugos stand was, I didn't actually remember the resolution to this fight.
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the life punch and damage reflection should pretty much be regarded the same as poo poo like star finger. it happens like once or twice and then is never relevant again because it's stupid and/or not really applicable or useful to whatever situation is going on.
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Gold Experience makes sense to me if you think of Giorno as a Persona protagonist. He's just making new Social Links with the gang and switching out his Stand's powers. 
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Monaghan posted:I get jojo has some bullshit, but this fight was terrible. Jojo fights are fun when we see them be creative with their powers with clear understandable limits. It's almost like a mystery story- the readers want to think of a way the character can use their intelligence and ability to get around their enemy. this fight is just "I can do this now" to a ridiculous degree.This fight has Giorno do stuff he's never done before and relies on the following: I think it was cool.
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Gold Experience is a God stand. That's it. The sooner you come to grips w that is the sooner you can decide whether you'll love it or hate it going forward. I've been pleasantly surprised so far that there is a bit more to Giorno than just being Pt 2 Joseph without the personality like I feared, and enjoy how the story's been leaning into "Giorno, you are some brokenass bullshit, but knowing that bullshit is on my side is bullshit I can believe in." Araki's demonstrated already he's still capable of writing predicaments having nothing to do w Giorno that the protaganist can get their own drat self out of, so I have faith in the writing going forward and I liked this fight a lot. It mostly depends on how much "wait, WHAT" you're willing to put up with at the breakneck pace the show has been going.
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Pootybutt posted:Araki's demonstrated already he's still capable of writing predicaments having nothing to do w Giorno that the protaganist can get their own drat self out of, so I have faith in the writing going forward and I liked this fight a lot. It mostly depends on how much "wait, WHAT" you're willing to put up with at the breakneck pace the show has been going. The breakneck pace hasn't been a thing since Battle In Egypt started. I much preferred the speed at which Part 1 and 2 blazed by, rather than "every enemy takes 2-3 episodes now" we got since BiE.
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Johnny Joestar posted:the life punch and damage reflection should pretty much be regarded the same as poo poo like star finger. it happens like once or twice and then is never relevant again because it's stupid and/or not really applicable or useful to whatever situation is going on. Yeah, as a general rule, you shouldn't expect any stand to do the exact thing it did during its introduction.
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Kikas posted:I much preferred the speed at which Part 1 and 2 blazed by, rather than "every enemy takes 2-3 episodes now" we got since BiE. That started more-so around The Lovers rather than Egypt. I think The Sun and Oingo Boingo were the only fights after that point that weren't two episodes. Even then, the former was stretched out quite a bit to fill a whole episode.
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From the look of it when the blood was shoved into him, GE was using it's power on the antibodies to accelerate their growth (Something we know it can do) enough to cure Giorno. Honestly Man in the Mirror is a pretty good fight, the cure part is just a bit iffy is all.
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Dragonwagon posted:Yeah, as a general rule, you shouldn't expect any stand to do the exact thing it did during its introduction. I'm still not quite sure how Josuke did that homing glass bullshit at the end of part 4.
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iirc he uses crazy diamond on kira's blood on the glass so the glass shards will slice into kira when the blood attempts go back into kira's body
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Pretty sure it was Josuke's blood and it was targeting the bloodstain from before when he threw his blood at Kira.
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RatHat posted:I'm still not quite sure how Josuke did that homing glass bullshit at the end of part 4. Part 1: When Okuyasu is injured and seemingly dead, an invisible bubble begins to float towards Josuke. At the last minute, Josuke punctures himself to make blood, and then "fixes" it into a blade that he launches at Kira. Kira blocks it, but the blood splatters on his clothes. Part 2: Later on, Josuke takes a glass shard that has some of his blood on it. Since the previous blood he launched at Kira dried and the shard has his own dried blood on it, that blood is technically not a part of him anymore and instead tries to meld with each other. So the shard winds up aiming towards Kira to bring the two dried blood splotches together.
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Thing that really bothered me about this chapter, as the last of the introductory fights, Fugo gets kinda punked out and doesn’t get to do much to show why he’s good and cool. Abachio didn’t win his fight but he played a real big role in solving the mystery and leading a better punchman to the finish line All Fugo really did was break a mirror and then Abachio took over with no aid and then Giorno finished it with no aid I guess it uses Fugo’s stand to finish the fight, but that feels like a showcase for Purple Haze, not Fugo
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Kikas posted:The breakneck pace hasn't been a thing since Battle In Egypt started. I much preferred the speed at which Part 1 and 2 blazed by, rather than "every enemy takes 2-3 episodes now" we got since BiE. I don't know what you're talkin about, man. Part 5 just blasts thru this material. Honestly the most suspect part of the whole fight isn't snakebrick or floaty blues hand, but how illuso could put amirror in ambush next to the key wo noticing it, or even knowing there was a key. Pootybutt fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Sockser posted:Thing that really bothered me about this chapter, as the last of the introductory fights, Fugo gets kinda punked out and doesn’t get to do much to show why he’s good and cool. Fugo's stand is kind of a massive liability, is the point there He could end most fights in seconds but doing it without killing himself and everyone else nearby is the problem
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Pootybutt posted:Honestly the most suspect part of the whole fight isn't snakebrick or floaty blues hand, but how illuso could put amirror in ambush next to the key wo noticing it, or even knowing there was a key. I think the implication was that he had seeded the entire area with mirrors. The one Fugo gets sucked into wasn't particularly near the dog mosaic, after all.
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RatHat posted:This twitter feed has major spoilers by the way, so don't click it. "he has one of those powers that just does whatever" is still my fav. description of giorno's stand
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jivjov posted:I think the implication was that he had seeded the entire area with mirrors. The one Fugo gets sucked into wasn't particularly near the dog mosaic, after all. That's the implication, but it reads a lil weird in the moment. It was in the perfect place for an ambush the second someone went for the key, but dude didn't see it? OK.
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What does it say when my major bullshit moment about brick snake was the point 4 in that sequence, i.e Gold Experience creating Giorno-compatible antibodies and all that within reptilian body?
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Pomplamoose posted:
If you like stands being versatile yet simple youll love the protag of Stone Oceans stand
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