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DarkHorse posted:Taravangian's inner monologue though makes it clear he'll sacrifice most of humanity so a little of it can be preserved, and is not trying to destroy Odium, just survive. While Cultivation may have some plans in that regard for him, Taravangian himself is totally willing to sell out. Why was he thankful to his past self about the Renarin part being hidden from Odium, then? Slanderer posted:Gotta avoid mixing up Brandon’s many S words: shards, splinters (spren snd seons, which are splinters too!) and slivers. Wait, when did Kelsier get that power? What book is that from?
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NikkolasKing posted:Why was he thankful to his past self about the Renarin part being hidden from Odium, then? I can't exactly remember the passage, but I think it's because it proved Odium couldn't read his mind/wasn't all-knowing? That's how I interpreted it at least. I'm totally down with Taravangian saving things, I just get the impression he's going to be a saboteur and traitor before being redeemed, if ever. The Kelsier stuff is in Secret Histories or Arcanum Unbounded
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NikkolasKing posted:Wait, when did Kelsier get that power? What book is that from? It's non essential, but it comes up in Mistborn Secret History. I know it's also mentioned offhandedly in one other place, too--maybe in one of the Mistborn Era 2 books? If so, that would have been a bigger shock at the time, since Arcanum Unbounded wasn't published until after Bands of Mourning (although I read it after Hero of Ages, so no surprise for me lol)
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Slanderer posted:It's non essential, but it comes up in Mistborn Secret History. I know it's also mentioned offhandedly in one other place, too--maybe in one of the Mistborn Era 2 books? If so, that would have been a bigger shock at the time, since Arcanum Unbounded wasn't published until after Bands of Mourning (although I read it after Hero of Ages, so no surprise for me lol) Yeah, reading The Bands of Mourning live was something else, with it ending with a note from Brandon basically saying - yeah, there’s a secret novella that just dropped explaining the epilogue, and also what was actually going on during the original trilogy.
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Finished Skyward. Not Sanderson's best work, very very YA. I wouldn't call it bad, but I care more about the setting and it's mysteries then I do about any of the very very shallow characters, which is bad compared to even Sanderson's early stuff where at least one character would be interesting. Also That slug is totally an alien spy.
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Literally just finished Skyward as well. They certainly were pretty shallow, but I still found myself caring for Spensa more than anyone in Wheel of Time  That said, I guess I missed it - how did Cobb know about M-Bot I definitely enjoyed the last 2/3 more than the first 1/3 and I'm looking forward to the next in the series.
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Sab669 posted:Literally just finished Skyward as well. They certainly were pretty shallow, but I still found myself caring for Spensa more than anyone in Wheel of Time I'd guess that M-Bot contacted Cobb on the radio.
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NecroMonster posted:I'd guess that M-Bot contacted Cobb on the radio. Yeah.. it kinda felt like deus ex machina to me murderbot decides to betray his orders and Cobb decides to fly again at the same time humanity is in mortal danger
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mewse posted:Yeah.. it kinda felt like deus ex machina to me murderbot decides to betray his orders and Cobb decides to fly again at the same time humanity is in mortal danger When you put it that way it almost sounds like cause and effect...
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mewse posted:Yeah.. it kinda felt like deus ex machina to me murderbot decides to betray his orders and Cobb decides to fly again at the same time humanity is in mortal danger Almost as if the fate of the entire Defiant race could cause a person to overcome their shortcomings! (and an AI to find a loophole in its own code that allows it to modify its directives, which is the same thing but for robots.
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SynthesisAlpha posted:and an AI to find a loophole in its own code that allows it to modify its directives, which is the same thing but for robots. Ah yes I've heard of robots doing that
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wait Sanderson has a Murderbot in addition to the Murderbot who has her own book series by Martha Wells? I confuse so easily these days
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NecroMonster posted:Finished Skyward. Not Sanderson's best work, very very YA. I wouldn't call it bad, but I care more about the setting and it's mysteries then I do about any of the very very shallow characters, which is bad compared to even Sanderson's early stuff where at least one character would be interesting. Regarding the spoiler: nah, I think it's the thing you put in the FTL machine.
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Walh Hara posted:Regarding the spoiler: nah, I think it's the thing you put in the FTL machine. Close - they go the Futurama route and Doomslug shits cytonic hyperdrive fuel Wheel of Time - small spoilers for Path of Daggers + Crossroads: I think my problem with this series is that Faile was kidnapped in Book 8. Book 10 and we're Still looking for. Conversely, Rand gets kidnapped for like, what, 3 chapters in Lord of Chaos? I'm amazed by Jordan's ability to resolve actually interesting plot arches in a matter of chapters, but drag out boring poo poo like Perrin & Faile. That's my problem with this series. Same thing with the end of Winter's Heart, that was cool as gently caress and then that whole thing is barely discussed at all so far in Crossroads (2 chapters left). Sab669 fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Dec 31, 2018 |
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Sab669 posted:Close - they go the Futurama route and Doomslug shits cytonic hyperdrive fuel If you only have 2 chapters left, you've basically come through. Knife of Dreams picks up the pace, longstanding plots either start to wind down or get resolved outright, the series is ending... for the next 4 books... 
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Sab669 posted:Close - they go the Futurama route and Doomslug shits cytonic hyperdrive fuel Yeah, you're almost through to the Good Bits, keep it up! w/r/t the kidnappings, Rand is basically a demigod who can level cities, and Faile is, uh, good with knives? Even without breaking free he was racking up a body count against Warders, and the moment the ones holding his shield got distracted he busted through and immediately mind crushed/severed them from doing magic. If it wasn't for the literal army attacking he probably would have laid waste to the entire camp before Gating back to change his clothes and smoke a pipe. Faile is biding her time and hoping for rescue/trying to figure out how to get away without being tracked, because any one of the people holding her can kill her. Still, even Jordan recognized that this poo poo was dragging at this point.
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OAquinas posted:Yeah, you're almost through to the Good Bits, keep it up! Perrin's also (Knife of Dreams spoiler) assembling an entire army to crush the Shaido forever, instead of Rand's rescue being a smash-and-grab in the midst of a confused melee between various Aiel factions, White Tower, Black Tower, and Perrin's forces.
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The only good bit of Faile's kidnapping is finding out what the whole "remnant of a remnant" thing is.
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OAquinas posted:Yeah, you're almost through to the Good Bits, keep it up! More on Perrin: I always had the feeling that Jordan simply ran out of plot for Perrin and Faile to do, and ran through what there was too soon. Like, the timeline needs him to have his poo poo sorted for the endgame, but it turned out he'd have it done three books before that - well poo poo, what do you do now? The other guys have so much stuff to do, and Perrin's almost got his sorted.... and that's how you get books and books of looking for her.
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Tunzie posted:More on Perrin: I always had the feeling that Jordan simply ran out of plot for Perrin and Faile to do, and ran through what there was too soon. Like, the timeline needs him to have his poo poo sorted for the endgame, but it turned out he'd have it done three books before that - well poo poo, what do you do now? The other guys have so much stuff to do, and Perrin's almost got his sorted.... and that's how you get books and books of looking for her. poo poo I don't know, let's have him jump around in dream apostrophe world fighting with that guy as a wolf for about another thousand pages
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In case anyone missed it, Sanderson has ALREADY posted a status update on Stormlight on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/absjnj/stormlight_book_four_update_1/ I really love his work ethic and I'm excited to watch that new progress bar move this year!
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Leng posted:In case anyone missed it, Sanderson has ALREADY posted a status update on Stormlight on Reddit: Reading some of his responses in that post now make me realize that a few years back when I emailed him about one of his book signings asking if he was coming to the NYC or Philadelphia area it was actually Brandon that responded and not his agent/publicist like I originally thought. (Same typing style and tone in the responses.) It's really cool to see an author as popular as he is taking the time to personally respond to fans, even if it is the luck of the draw who gets responses.
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Mage_Boy posted:Reading some of his responses in that post now make me realize that a few years back when I emailed him about one of his book signings asking if he was coming to the NYC or Philadelphia area it was actually Brandon that responded and not his agent/publicist like I originally thought. (Same typing style and tone in the responses.) It's really cool to see an author as popular as he is taking the time to personally respond to fans, even if it is the luck of the draw who gets responses. His editor has his own reddit account, it's not unusual to have both Brandon and Peter answer questions in the Cosmere/Sanderson AMAs. I think every post by mistborn is written by Brandon himself.
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After a printing delay meant the leatherbound Hero of Ages wouldn't get to people in time for Christmas, Brandon sent out a long note personally apologizing to whoever you were going to give the gift to.
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Sab669 posted:Close - they go the Futurama route and Doomslug shits cytonic hyperdrive fuel I'm excited to see your reaction upon finishing book 11. I had forgotten how little screen time Tuon and Mat got in WH and COT, it all pays off in KOD.
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You guys are funny; re-read WoT lol. Sadly (?) I gotta wait a few days for Audible to roll over so I can pick up Book #11 - and hopefully I might be finding myself with a new job where my commute goes from 25 minutes to 10 minutes, so I'll be spending much less time listening.
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Sab669 posted:You guys are funny; re-read WoT lol. I'm in the middle of a re-read of WOT that started on a whim in mid-2017. I'm up to midway through book 6, but I also took several breaks to read other things (including a re-read of Oathbringer that I just finished). On that note, I liked Oathbringer a lot more on the second read. The cognitive realm stuff that really dragged on the first readthrough was less of a drag... first time, I just wanted to get back to finding out what was going on with all of the other characters.
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I'm sure there are plenty who have read the series many times, but I can't fathom these books get SO much better between now and the end that I'll subject myself to reading through it all a second time. On a related note, wtf the Prologue in Knife of Dreams is 3.5 hours. It's like 10% of the entire book.
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I think he started writing the Prologues to be released as little mini-novellas on their own as teasers for the main books.
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I'm halfway through book 7 now. I really enjoy all of Ebou Dar. I dislike anything with Perrin. Also anything with Egwene. I love villain PoVs
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Sab669 posted:I'm sure there are plenty who have read the series many times, but I can't fathom these books get SO much better between now and the end that I'll subject myself to reading through it all a second time. It's the longest prologue in the series. Sanderson writes considerably shorter prologues. Edit: What's wrong with long prologues by the way? Does it make a big difference how a book is divided into chapters?
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I'm more just impressed that the prologues truly do get longer and longer with every book. I have a little bit of a tough time with them as an audio book because sometimes it's not immediately obvious that character perspective changes, whereas in the physical book the paragraphs are usually broken up more.
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I think the WoT prologues are so long because 1) he has to recap EVERYTHING and 2) for a while there they were releasing the prologues for free on the internet before the books themselves came out to build publicity
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Sab669 posted:I'm more just impressed that the prologues truly do get longer and longer with every book. The physical books have the advantage that every chapter starts with an icon that tells you whose perspective it’s from I can’t goddamn fathom trying to handle it as an audiobook
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Data Graham posted:The physical books have the advantage that every chapter starts with an icon that tells you whose perspective it’s from Mostly. Or they tell the reader something. Like all the chapters in The Shadows Rising that had Lanfear's chapter icon, but no Lanfear to be seen. Which hinted that somebody there was Lanfear in disguise.
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I mean if you can’t tell who is speaking from the dialogue you might have some issues. From a writing perspective
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RC Cola posted:I'm halfway through book 7 now. I really enjoy all of Ebou Dar. I dislike anything with Perrin. Also anything with Egwene. I love villain PoVs  Perrin is the worst after book 4. Egwene sucks until 11/12 and then sucks again after.
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Oathbringer is finally getting interesting, 300+ pages in of course. split personality radiant girl is fighting the Lost (TV show) smoke monster in a spooky pit somewhere in tower land. I think she is starting to go crazy as well, she is not sure which one of her personalities is really her The goddamn "safehand" think is really grating on me. It's like hair tugging and skirt smoothing in the Jorden books. It literally adds nothing but extra words. I don't need GRRM levels of rape, but is Sanderson some super prude? Sexuality is like totally absent from these books, other then the stupid safehand bs and some Victorian style allusion to the fact that sex might actually like, exist. 2 out of 3 of the main characters are 18 - 22 from what I can tell and they are almost completely asexual. They should be banging like teenagers / rabbits, or they should be wanting to, even if it's off screen or just implied or whatever. EDIT: Oh, and "Pattern buzzed contently" or whatever bullshit. STOP IT!
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Why do I read Reddit?? Misstori1: I really, really like that Brandon Sanderson leaves the issue of sex ambiguous. (With the exception of necessary plot points) I think it's a smart and inclusive move. The reader can judge for themselves if the characters are having sex or not. Whatever you personally believe about sex can be applied to the characters. I think that's great. doncissiero89 Really shows how skilled and entertaining a writer he is. Anyone can enjoy it Bc it lets you fill in the blanks. No, it does not show how great a writer he is, quite the opposite. He is covering all sorts of complex "adult" topics in these books; PTSD, justice, war, domestic violence, racism, religion, etc... sex is markedly absent.
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