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Preston Waters posted:It's not a spear. It's a metal rod... thing... It’s a staff made up of random parts she’s scavenged. You know, because she’s a scavenger.
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Its plumbing from a star destroyer. We're making clones from Sheev turds yall
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Hodgepodge posted:But some whiney internet fans means IX won't be a huge blockbuster? You need to get offline a bit more, my man. It's kind of his thing. He has a bizarre obsession with the idea that Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Star Wars and any further movies are going to be utter disasters. And then he Kramers into any thread that even tangentially discusses Star Wars and reminds us all of it.
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Timby posted:It's kind of his thing. He has a bizarre obsession with the idea that Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Star Wars and any further movies are going to be utter disasters. I thought his deal was specifically that people didn't like TLJ, and it was someone else (Slutituition?) who did the full right-wing deal.
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Timby posted:It's kind of his thing. He has a bizarre obsession with the idea that Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Star Wars and any further movies are going to be utter disasters. He says it’s his autism. Or alluded to something in that vein with a  smilie
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Hodgepodge posted:I thought his deal was specifically that people didn't like TLJ, and it was someone else (Slutituition?) who did the full right-wing deal. It’s that, but also that Episode IX will absolutely be a failure, and Kennedy will be fired. He does it a lot. edit: CelticPredator posted:He says it’s his autism. Or alluded to something in that vein with a Oh really? I never saw that.
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thrawn527 posted:It’s a staff made up of random parts she’s scavenged. You know, because she’s a scavenger. I remember posters here claiming that her staff was a big clue about the plot of TFA because they once made a Darth Plagueis action figure that also had a grey staff.
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It seems obvious the next movie will contain a time skip, during which rey trains finn using her pilfered jedi pamphlets. At the same time she begins a secret, naughty affair with kylo. Its all a bit tense and empirey but then one day rey gets pregnant. finn gets really cross and kills kylo and then vows to use his time machine to go back and stop all this from ever happening. Finn is now older and played by sam l jackson. rey tries to follow him back in time but they get split up in the time warp and rey lands on tatooine ready to give birth to a baby boy. mace finndo lands somewhere else and sets about his plan of stopping the rise of vader and luke and kylo from ever happening. Ryan johnsons trilogy is an alternate timeline remake of episodes I II and III.
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Looks like enough time for the Rebels to hire a new batch of temps.
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You know what would be awesome? If they somehow found all the Trade Federation battle droids in cold storage from the prequels and utilized them.
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Gonz posted:You know what would be awesome? If they somehow found all the Trade Federation battle droids in cold storage from the prequels and utilized them. The heroes of the prequel trilogy (or their droids, anyway) coming back to save the day.
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Gonz posted:You know what would be awesome? If they somehow found all the Trade Federation battle droids in cold storage from the prequels and utilized them. K2-S0 from Rogue One is basically a prequel battle droid repurposed into the rebellion. When he showed up, I was hoping against hope we'd see a Gungan as part of the suicide squad.
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Gonz posted:You know what would be awesome? If they somehow found all the Trade Federation battle droids in cold storage from the prequels and utilized them. Nah, they're useless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ww0b49w3EY
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Preston Waters posted:Nah, they're useless. I'm astounded that Lucas would make droidphobic comments like that so openly. If he was caught on camera saying things like that today he'd be lucky to keep his job. "Not very efficient" indeed.
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Why not 4 or 5 years? At least that would cover enough time to match the real-world gap from TFA to the present, and also plausibly be enough time for the power structures of the galaxy to have significantly shifted. Or at least it's more plausible than the power structures of the galaxy significantly shifting in one year, or one day for that matter. General Dog fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 28, 2018 |
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General Dog posted:Why not 4 or 5 years? At least that would cover enough time to match the real-world gap from TFA to the present, and also plausibly be enough time for the power structures of the galaxy to have significantly shifted. Or at least it's more plausible than the power structures of the galaxy significantly shifting in one year, or one day for that matter. If the Resistance allowed the First Order to rule the galaxy for 4 to 5 years they'd look weak and ineffectual and the movie would have a less positive tone. That's my guess at the reasoning, anyway.
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pospysyl posted:If the Resistance allowed the First Order to rule the galaxy for 4 to 5 years they'd look weak and ineffectual and the movie would have a less positive tone. That's my guess at the reasoning, anyway. That likely wouldn't be enough time for them to even occupy the entire galaxy. If they can "conquer" the galaxy in a year, then the galaxy must have more or less rolled out the red carpet for them. Which, in that case, why is this galaxy even worth fighting for?
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General Dog posted:That likely wouldn't be enough time for them to even occupy the entire galaxy. If they can "conquer" the galaxy in a year, then the galaxy must have more or less rolled out the red carpet for them. Which, in that case, why is this galaxy even worth fighting for? It isn't - after all, that was the entire point of the prequel trilogy, that the Rebels were wrong because the Republic wasn't worth restoring. Edit: Lucas has said that he views Star Wars as having an "anti-populist" message (which is fair enough, because all populism is bad) and it necessarily follows that the movies carry an anti-democratic message; Padme bemoans the death of democracy "to thunderous applause" despite having previously presided over an apartheid state and reassured her fascist boyfriend that it was fine for him to massacre the women and children in the Sand Peoples' camp because he was angry. The inference one must draw is clear. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Dec 28, 2018 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:It isn't - after all, that was the entire point of the prequel trilogy, that the Rebels were wrong because the Republic wasn't worth restoring. Yeah, but once you've put that out there how do you make more Star Wars movies? Once that it's been established by the prequels (and reinforced by TLJ) that the (star) warring will always be cyclical and always be pointless, then what is there left to do but sit and spin?
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General Dog posted:Yeah, but once you've put that out there how do you make more Star Wars movies? Once that it's been established by the prequels (and reinforced by TLJ) that the (star) warring will always be cyclical and always be pointless, then what is there left to do but sit and spin? Do the prequels establish that? Anakin kills the guy who started all the wars for personal gain. Before that there were (said to be) thousands of years or peace.
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sassassin posted:Do the prequels establish that? Anakin kills the guy who started all the wars for personal gain. Before that there were (said to be) thousands of years or peace. Yes, because the prequels are the sequel to the OT. They exist as a critique of the OT.
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sassassin posted:Do the prequels establish that? Anakin kills the guy who started all the wars for personal gain. Before that there were (said to be) thousands of years or peace. that thousand years of peace is like how America has been 'at peace' for the last 50 years despite being constantly killing and oppressing folks across the globe. until 9/11 we were at peace
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Ammanas posted:that thousand years of peace is like how America has been 'at peace' for the last 50 years despite being constantly killing and oppressing folks across the globe. until 9/11 we were at peace Technically the Korean War never ended! But seriously, it can hardly be said we were at peace when we had massive armies stationed abroad in a warlike posture. They were there to guarantee invasions wouldn't happen, because if they did, the response would be a nuclear retaliation. That's hardly "peace".
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General Dog posted:That likely wouldn't be enough time for them to even occupy the entire galaxy. If they can "conquer" the galaxy in a year, then the galaxy must have more or less rolled out the red carpet for them. Which, in that case, why is this galaxy even worth fighting for? The red carpet had been rolled out for them already. The only people fighting the FO are Leia and her friends
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Preston Waters posted:Technically the Korean War never ended! To be honest that's not really fair to the Republic. It's a major plot point that the Republic legit had no functional military for "a thousand years" which is why Palpatine had to spend decades manipulating both sides of the Clone Wars into creating one. The peace of the Republic seems to have been legit. Of course then we get into debates about the morality of intervention. Like would it have been better for the Republic to have had a military so it could invade and annex Tatooine and free the slaves? Or would that have led to Space Libya?
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The "peace" of the republic involves overlooking some intergalactic warfare and slavery. It also must historically have been doing that too, because nobody treats it as unusual tht this is happening
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The Republic doesn't need an army because they usually send in the Jedi to assassinate their opponents; the blockade of Naboo is clearly one of the first times this treacherous strategy has failed.
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galagazombie posted:It's a major plot point that the Republic legit had no functional military for "a thousand years" which is why Palpatine had to spend decades manipulating both sides of the Clone Wars into creating one. The peace of the Republic seems to have been legit. The Trade Federation is part of the Republic and has a massive army. We also obviously see Naboo’s military and police forces - both the humans’ and the gungans. Coruscant implicitly has its own military, while the Jedi serve a paramilitary role. There is no Grand Army of the Republic before Palpatine, but the Republic’s member worlds each have their own military forces because they are in constant conflict. They may need to defend their trade routes or repress an aboriginal population. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Barudak posted:The "peace" of the republic involves overlooking some intergalactic warfare and slavery. You mean "interstellar" right? I thought the Vong don't come into play until Luke is like 80 or something?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The Trade Federation is part of the Republic and has a massive army. We also obviously see Naboo’s military and police forces - both the humans’ and the gungans. Coruscant implicitly has its own military, while the Jedi serve a paramilitary role. That does make it seem like the Republic is (at least by the time of TPM) so weak and ineffectual it can't even stop private entities like the Trade Federation from galavanting around with their own armies. Dooku's council meeting in AotC implies all these corporations and such have long been maintaining their own militaries. I'd hesitate to call Naboo's a military though. It's like one garage of ships to protect the royal yacht and some cops. If they had a military Jar-Jar wouldn't have needed to point out the Gungans have one.
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galagazombie posted:That does make it seem like the Republic is (at least by the time of TPM) so weak and ineffectual it can't even stop private entities like the Trade Federation from galavanting around with their own armies. I don't see it as an issue of actual weakness so much as the anxiety of being weak.
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galagazombie posted:That does make it seem like the Republic is (at least by the time of TPM) so weak and ineffectual it can't even stop private entities like the Trade Federation from galavanting around with their own armies. Dooku's council meeting in AotC implies all these corporations and such have long been maintaining their own militaries. I'd hesitate to call Naboo's a military though. It's like one garage of ships to protect the royal yacht and some cops. If they had a military Jar-Jar wouldn't have needed to point out the Gungans have one. Naboo’s guys are “guards”, but that’s kind of a pointless distinction when they have fighter jets (and glorified technicals) at their disposal. Point is that the ‘peace’ in the Republic is an extremely relative peace, meaning only that there’s no galaxy-spanning war. Interplanetary conflicts are happening all the time, and that’s not even getting into the all-pervasive slavery from Tatooine to Coruscant.
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You guys are certainly putting a lot more thought into this than Lucas ever did. The Republic, all humans apart from the ugly or overly pale ones and a few cute looking alien things = good Open enemies of the republic (for whatever reason), any ugly humans and all non-cute or non-sexualised aliens = bad Star Wars is Trumps America gone galactic. Weavered fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Weavered posted:You guys are certainly putting a lot more thought into this than Lucas ever did. but if the republic is trump i thought snoke was trump???
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