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QuarkJets posted:A lot of the "arenas" in Doom 4 aren't huge open spaces though, they're actually arenas. But I'm not talking about the literal arenas of doom 4 at the moment. I'm responding to you making an argument out of the definition of an arena in gaming terms. It's any defined region where a mass of enemies spawn which requires circle strafing/enemy management/projectile dodging. It doesn't have to be an actual defined "arena". Anyone who played SS would say it's an "arena" shooter. And getting back to Doom 4, yeah.. the arenas are more defined and there are linear paths (same with SS at points, specifically in the pyramids), but it's also still an arena shooter. The crux of my original post and argument was me stating that doom 4 was Brutal Serious Sam. And I still stand with that argument.
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From all I hear Deus Ex was pretty average at best graphically even when it came out and was in general pieced together from duct tape and string (moreso than video games already are) by the standards of the time.Barudak posted:All video games are art, I scrawl on the gamestop before adding, but some are more art than others. The thing about art is that Caligula, Boss Baby and the Black Eyed Peas' discography are also art. Art doesn't mean worthy of respect.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:From all I hear Deus Ex was pretty average at best graphically even when it came out and was in general pieced together from duct tape and string (moreso than video games already are) by the standards of the time. i was there and this is true, it looked like poop back then too
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sebmojo posted:i was there and this is true, it looked like poop back then too Deus ex looked meh, but the options for the player to approach each stage were pretty legit. It really was truly open ended.. and keep in mind, the closest thing to an RPG shooter was Techwar. It's a product of it's time, but it's still one of my favorite gaming experiences as a kid.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:From all I hear Deus Ex was pretty average at best graphically even when it came out and was in general pieced together from duct tape and string (moreso than video games already are) by the standards of the time. It had bad graphics when it came out but it might have worked in its favor by making it more memorable because you can instantly identify that something is "deus ex" by its weird lighting and blocky environments when everything else at the time had better graphics. They should remake it with UE4 or something, it's famous enough and they're remade most of the other famous games from that era.
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It's probably a nightmare to remake a game as vast and deep as Deus Ex on a modern budget.
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With modern graphical expectations, for that matter. There's a lot of discussion and argument over in the FF7 remake thread about how that game's remake is in development hell and if it ever comes out is probably going to lose everything that made the original game interesting.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:With modern graphical expectations, for that matter. They're taking out the scenes where Cloud gets molested in a gay nightclub and apparently you can't go on a date with the black guy anymore. Not sure if that's what you meant
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A Smoke Break posted:But I'm not talking about the literal arenas of doom 4 at the moment. Yeah aside from all of those major differences that you pointed out (among others) they're totally the same lol
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idk if deus ex looked poopy for its time. it was what, 99? so its contemporaries were Brood War, Half-Life, and Max Payne? It seems more or less on par with those. Max Payne had better textures and particle effects but no facial animation and brood war was fmv and pixelart
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I remember replaying max payne in late 00s and being like, Woah this game still looks good and not like poo poo like everything released before 2004 or so.
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speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne
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The jumping on pipes above the abyss got pretty boring and lovely but they were cool for narrative.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne This was my bridge too far. I’ve seen a lot of opinions I’ve disagreed with but I respect anyone’s right to have their position. But not like this. Not like this.
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poisonpill posted:This was my bridge too far. I’ve seen a lot of opinions I’ve disagreed with but I respect anyone’s right to have their position. But not like this. Not like this. also far cry 2 is one of my favorite games ever
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OMGVBFLOL posted:speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne jesus christ
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Colonel Cancer posted:I remember replaying max payne in late 00s and being like, Woah this game still looks good and not like poo poo like everything released before 2004 or so. Yeah aside from the dumb drug levels it still holds up really well. The graphics are obviously dated but is still looks way better and is much more playable than the vast majority of late ninties/early 2000’s third person shooters
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OMGVBFLOL posted:speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne Do you skip the maze with the shortcut jump or are you fully gone?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:With modern graphical expectations, for that matter. A remake of FF7 would fall short of expectations but it's not logistically difficult to remake. It's a huge game on an epic scale, but it's also extremely linear and fixed, so you can't really go wrong short of cutting important and iconic parts or changing it overmuch--the biggest danger is that there's a huge schism in the public's perception of it, that's divided between people who grew up on the original game and then people who are more familiar with the EU. The tone between the two is so massively different that it's honestly impossible to bridge the gap. You have to choose one, but you alienate half your audience.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne Wrap it up and close the thread boys. This is it. The worst opinion we are ever going to see.
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christmas boots posted:They're taking out the scenes where Cloud gets molested in a gay nightclub and apparently you can't go on a date with the black guy anymore. Not sure if that's what you meant What's wrong with black guys?
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ratbert90 posted:Wrap it up and close the thread boys. This is it. The worst opinion we are ever going to see. I was going to post that I don't remember them being that bad when I played it as a teenager but then I remembered I cheated past all of them
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Are your legs OK? The only accident I fear will be your head falling into a vat of acid with me wearing your loving moron face as a party mask
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OMGVBFLOL posted:speaking of unpopular video game opinions, i liked the drug-dream levels of max payne i alt f4'd when the crying noises started and had nightmares for months because of that and it stopped me replaying it despite loving the gameplay.
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A Smoke Break posted:But I'm not talking about the literal arenas of doom 4 at the moment. Well you're wrong. Doom 4 is super different from Serious Sam and your vague definition of "region where enemies spawn and u shoot enemies" can be applied to SO many games dude In Doom you just fight a handful of enemies at once. In serious sam you can fight loving armies at once, in maps five times as big as in Doom and they'll just keep coming at you
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We can all agree that Super Smash Brothers is exactly like Tekken, they're both fighting games after all
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This is a dull argument. Fps syndicate is a stealth classic and one of the better visions of a brutal cyberpunk future in gaming
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fps syndicate was a cool game, everyone was like "ugh lens flare" but i think that the overwhelming effects make it look more unique than most games from that time
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I miss the mod era of like dod, firearms, action quake 2, the professionals, that vampire hunter one in half life etc and the endless supply of stuff on planethalflife or planetquake and that's how i ended up on SA originally in the early 2000s. My friends and i still play AQ2 and Urban Terror sometimes but the days where those kind of releases were coming out quicker than you could play them and had such huge followings ruled and i struggle to explain it to younger relatives. I must have tried dozens of mods that never got out of alpha testing that always had someone to play with 24 hours a day or had full on single player campaigns (THEY HUNGER) and even the biggest projects for like Skyrim or something don't have that same feeling despite being more professionally made. As good as natural selection 2 is my best memories are all from the early hl1 mod days even.
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Whorelord posted:The only accident I fear will be your head falling into a vat of acid with me wearing your loving moron face as a party mask  You must break your cycles of guilt
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You must break your cycles of guilt I'm not sure if EYE is ahead of its time or just timeless.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm not sure if EYE is ahead of its time or just timeless. No matter what your opinion about EYE is, it's wrong.
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EYE was one of those games I tried but had to give up because I was pretty sure I'd contract autism from it.
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Playing through darksiders 2 and this game is loving terrible Darksiders 1 was so god drat good, if a little wonky at times. This game though doesn’t know if it wants to be a hardcore dark souls like, Zelda like, diablo like, or a character action game. So you end up getting the worst of all four. Stupid deliberate combat, but fast action so you can’t really keep up with things, bad dungeon design, loot that is too infrequent to be fun, and you take forever to level up. Just got through the third dungeon and the final fight was so god drat tedious that I don’t know if I’m going to continue from here.
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