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You want "evil"? Here's some "evil" for you https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1079083702943211520 When he leaves office, I want to have an event where he has to sit silently in a chair for a week. He'd be broadcast live on every channel, while anyone who cares to attend gets to walk up and scream in his face about what a horrible, despicable excuse for a person he is. That wouldn't satisfy me, but it'd be a good step toward it.
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Mezzanine posted:You want "evil"? Here's some "evil" for you https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1079082188665171971 the first part is worse. i can't say anything because i don't want a ban and lowtax getting a visit. but yeah gently caress him forever and i hope hell is real.
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Keep in mind at least half of that is coming from Steven Miller. Not that I'm excusing Trump for anything, but he gets the words from Miller.
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There's a special kind of hate instilled in the soul that comes from insisting asylum seekers, legally seeking asylum, are illegals because the administration deliberately closed all normal points of entry to asylum seekers. Anyone still working for CPB, ICE, or at the White House are inhuman monsters and should be thoroughly screened by psychiatrists for the good of society.
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Gyges posted:There's a special kind of hate instilled in the soul that comes from insisting asylum seekers, legally seeking asylum, are illegals because the administration deliberately closed all normal points of entry to asylum seekers. Wait ignore me I misread. Asylum seekers should even be legal murdering their way through lines of border patrol jackasses due to how metal that would be. Mustached Demon fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Gyges posted:There's a special kind of hate instilled in the soul that comes from insisting asylum seekers, legally seeking asylum, are illegals because the administration deliberately closed all normal points of entry to asylum seekers. The Australian government excised the entire continent of Australia from the migration zone. So, even if you arrive here, you haven't arrived here.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1079729696726835200?s=21 Ahem. Ayyyyy lmao
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1079729696726835200?s=21 Now where could they possibly have learned to do such a thing... 
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"Just calm down and enjoy the ride" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1080088373451206656 TX Republican gubernatorial nominee Clayton Williams, 1990 - “Rape is kinda like the weather. If it’s inevitable, relax and enjoy it.”
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https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1080512061640196097 so this Romney op-ed is extremely interesting. the op-ed itself says nothing - it says trump is bad but not that romney is going to do a drat thing about it, and basically says he's going to continue voting for anything trump would want - but because romney, a political weathervane, sees the political winds pointing against Trump. again, he's going to be all "deeply concerned" and voting the way mitch wants him to vote, but it's very interesting that he sees so much value in a public break with Trump, even one that is in name only and not in any sort of substance.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1080512061640196097 Eh, you have to consider that Romney is out of Utah, and directly representing the Mormon population. The Mormons widely loathe Trump.
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fool_of_sound posted:Eh, you have to consider that Romney is out of Utah, and directly representing the Mormon population. The Mormons widely loathe Trump. That hasn't stopped Lee from moving from tut-tuting trump to full-on bearhugging him. This is Romney seeing value nationally in being an anti-trump republican instead of even just a quietly "here to do my job" republican who has never read a tweet in his life and won't read the ones you show him.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1080512061640196097 Romney will be reelected regardless of how he votes because Utah. It's an enviable position to be in, but he will completely squander it by voting the party line while expressing deep concern. Also, I was surprised to see that Trump's approval rating was only 45% among Utah Mormons the last time it was surveyed. That's still way too high, but it's lower than I expected (note: I live in a very red part of Utah).
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fool_of_sound posted:Eh, you have to consider that Romney is out of Utah, and directly representing the Mormon population. The Mormons widely loathe Trump. Do they? A friend of mine is super-mormon from a super-mormon Utah family and his parents are bowing scraping Trump acolytes.
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Data Graham posted:Do they? A friend of mine is super-mormon from a super-mormon Utah family and his parents are bowing scraping Trump acolytes. Well, the dislike him at a gigantically higher rate than other republicans, at least.
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TheMadMilkman posted:Romney will be reelected regardless of how he votes because Utah. yeah, i view this as more that any national ambitions he has are better served by being seen as anti-trump instead of pro-trump it might be that he thought he could have it both ways, by being anti-trump in name only but support everything trump does, but i think he was clever enough that he knew that a secret op-ed like this would be taken as a declaration of war (and it has been, pro-trump republicans aren't exactly mollified by the part of the article that says his opposition wouldn't extend to voting against anything republicans want in the Senate)
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It's messy because Romney is a million miles smarter than Trump, does have a competent state political machine, and is tied to the RNC apparatus (such as it is), but...well, as others pointed out, :romney:. He's not great at this optics and public opinion stuff. edit: wait where'd that smilie go?! We need it back, damnit!
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1080512061640196097 bruh you're calling a guy who made national headlines for a photo-op of him using a shopping cart a weathervane for anything. Romney doesn't have any relevance whatsoever to the thought or intentions of anyone in this country outside of the most fantastically wealthy and out of touch 1% of the 1% and his political calculations are completely irrelevant to the rest of the country because he's god's own son as the most prominent Mormon of the last century. This guy, he doesn't even know how to buy food 
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In fairness, I agree that the winds wrt to Trump are absolutely changing and to some extent Romney's op-ed reflects that, I just wildly object to anyone using Romney as representative of literally anything other than predatory billionaire capitalism ghouls. That said, I don't think the winds have changed so much as people who understand how congress works know that dems investigating Trump non-stop for the next two years is going to cause a complete shitstorm of bad press and that Trump will react badly to said bad press and they're just hoping to get ahead of that. E: oops doubleposted, thought this was uspol Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:bruh you're calling a guy who made national headlines for a photo-op of him using a shopping cart a weathervane for anything. Romney doesn't have any relevance whatsoever to the thought or intentions of anyone in this country outside of the most fantastically wealthy and out of touch 1% of the 1% and his political calculations are completely irrelevant to the rest of the country because he's god's own son as the most prominent Mormon of the last century. he's not a weathervane in the sense that he has a keen understanding of the common man, he's a weathervane in the sense that any position he has is up for negotiation if he thinks it's in his political interests. so what's interesting is that he sees this sort of op-ed as in his political interests. it is not that because he has swung this way the rest of the american public will swing that way as well. i think we're just disagreeing over what we think "weathervane" implies, i'm using it as an insult and i think you're taking it in a sense that is less insulting.
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evilweasel posted:he's not a weathervane in the sense that he has a keen understanding of the common man, he's a weathervane in the sense that any position he has is up for negotiation if he thinks it's in his political interests. so what's interesting is that he sees this sort of op-ed as in his political interests. it is not that because he has swung this way the rest of the american public will swing that way as well. mystes fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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evilweasel posted:he's not a weathervane in the sense that he has a keen understanding of the common man, he's a weathervane in the sense that any position he has is up for negotiation if he thinks it's in his political interests. so what's interesting is that he sees this sort of op-ed as in his political interests. it is not that because he has swung this way the rest of the american public will swing that way as well. It still implies that he represents literally anything relevant to anyone, which outside of Utah state republican politics, he doesn't. If he wrote this while still governor of Ma it would carry a lot more weight. Romney is infamously one of the most wildly out of touch politicians in the last fifty years and it's impossible to be a weathervane for anything when you're that deeply out of touch. Even as an ambitious self-interested actor (a group that otherwise would be relevant to the political world as a whole), Romney's actions aren't effective or particularly accurately at all, so he's not that interesting there either I agree with you substantively though Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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I don't really understand how any Republican is going to succeed nationally without at least trying to court Trump's braindead base since they are probably a majority of Republican voters (or close to it). That's why I don't really understand how this op-ed accomplishes anything for Romney, unless he really doesn't want to be president and just wants to say "Trump bad" while serving as Utah Senator indefinitely.
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There aren't actually that many Donnie only voters. His base is the Republican base. They'll pull that lever for Republicans same as the Never Trump guys do.
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Gyges posted:There aren't actually that many Donnie only voters. His base is the Republican base. They'll pull that lever for Republicans same as the Never Trump guys do. This, completely. Everyone's up in arms about an op-ed when it's crystal clear Mitt's gonna vote with Trump 100% of the time. Hint: you're not in opposition to someone you vote in lockstep with. As an example: https://twitter.com/ACrutchfield14/status/1080574199482200067
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https://twitter.com/natalie_allison/status/1080580455957753858 this argument just gets dumber every year
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*unveiling statue* Hitler is a part of our history you see
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Gyges posted:There aren't actually that many Donnie only voters. His base is the Republican base. They'll pull that lever for Republicans same as the Never Trump guys do. Trump got 2 million more votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. That's enough to matter.
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Silver2195 posted:Trump got 2 million more votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. That's enough to matter. Romney got 47.2 % of the vote. Trump got 46.1% of the vote. He did worse than Romeny. He won because Hillary did far worse in comparison to Obama (and the election is decided bu the EC instead of total votes)
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OAquinas posted:Here's a nuclear take: Going by a quick google, I don't see any major legit news sources talking about this. It's either sites I've never heard of, or the Daily Mail and co. And it seems like the kind of thing that would make the news.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Going by a quick google, I don't see any major legit news sources talking about this. It's either sites I've never heard of, or the Daily Mail and co. And it seems like the kind of thing that would make the news. Also, it's exactly the sort of thing a Russian propagandist trying to undermine both the US and China would want to make up. But it's also possible that one of the British tabloids made it up and Sputnik is just signal-boosting it. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 3, 2019 |
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OAquinas posted:Here's a nuclear take: Sputnik News is a Russian propaganda entity targeting the US.
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Discendo Vox posted:Sputnik News is a Russian propaganda entity targeting the US. Yeah, but there's propaganda, and then there's "oh yeah they'll totally blow up carriers to solve the problem, there's no way that will go wrong" insane drivel. Just showing that for every "russian mastermind" plot they have about 10,000 "stupid bot tricks" attempts.
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OAquinas posted:Yeah, but there's propaganda, and then there's "oh yeah they'll totally blow up carriers to solve the problem, there's no way that will go wrong" insane drivel. Just showing that for every "russian mastermind" plot they have about 10,000 "stupid bot tricks" attempts. Ah yes, the shotgun blast approach to psychops.
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