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AJ Styles vs Daniel Bryan was set for the Royal Rumble. It will be a good match, but this seems like incredibly convoluted booking to just give AJ another shot at the title.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:09 |
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DarkstarIV posted:AJ Styles vs Daniel Bryan was set for the Royal Rumble. It will be a good match, but this seems like incredibly convoluted booking to just give AJ another shot at the title. NEW MATCH UPS NEW SUPERSTARS
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:11 |
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VJeff posted:NEW MATCH UPS don't forget no automatic rematches, a new policy which lasted less than a loving week
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:12 |
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DarkstarIV posted:AJ Styles vs Daniel Bryan was set for the Royal Rumble. It will be a good match, but this seems like incredibly convoluted booking to just give AJ another shot at the title. ...I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought they might actually try to make a token effort to elevate someone, especially at a PPV where the title isn't the main draw AND where a hardcore audience would be likely to be into Ali. But this fuckin' company doesn't know any other way to book except "have these 2 people wrestle every 2 weeks for the next 4 months." and they have the gall to be shocked when ratings and reviews suffer.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:17 |
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Julio Cruz posted:don't forget no automatic rematches, a new policy which lasted less than a loving week Disregarding the fact that no major changes were ever going to happen in taped holiday shows, do y'all not realize the difference between no automatic rematches and no rematches whatsoever? They can still do rematches to their heart's content and technically not be automatic. I'm aware that this is pedantic as gently caress but it's driving me crazy.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:18 |
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no automatic rematches, let's have them earn it through multiman matches nobody else stands a real chance of winning because they're already in feuds, or jobber x gets a one-night shot the same night he earns the shot because that's completely fair when there's three more weeks of shows before the PPV
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:20 |
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Yeah, this isn't an automatic rematch. AJ 'earned' this match. But Ali pinning the champion doesn't count as earning a title match because
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:21 |
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I should point out here that AJ already got his automatic rematch at whatever the hell the last PPV was. So this isn't an automatic rematch one way or the other. But it's another in the face of their "new matches! new matches! new new new, things are changing!" shtick. They had an opportunity for no less than three exciting new matches, including one they'd already set up that would've been new and unique and fun and solidified a new guy in the main event scene of SD and they decided to just pad out the Bryan/AJ feud instead. This is why you should never trust WWE. MJeff fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 30, 2018 |
# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:22 |
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Like seriously, THIS is why wins and losses don't matter, because you teach the audience they don't by not actually having them matter.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:22 |
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Wrestling is a work.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:31 |
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the win mattered. big time
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:32 |
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The Kimoa Kid posted:Disregarding the fact that no major changes were ever going to happen in taped holiday shows, do y'all not realize the difference between no automatic rematches and no rematches whatsoever? They can still do rematches to their heart's content and technically not be automatic. I'm aware that this is pedantic as gently caress but it's driving me crazy. The point is that they've gone from "you lost so you don't get a rematch" on Monday to "you lost but you still get a rematch" tonight and no amount of rules-lawyering about "well actually this isn't an automatic rematch so technically it's fine" makes that a good decision.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 04:33 |
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Julio Cruz posted:The point is that they've gone from "you lost so you don't get a rematch" on Monday to "you lost but you still get a rematch" tonight and no amount of rules-lawyering about "well actually this isn't an automatic rematch so technically it's fine" makes that a good decision. I mean, it literally isn't an automatic rematch. AJ had his automatic rematch at TLC, this is a completely different rematch.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:18 |
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Utterly amazing that you are all arguing against another AJ/Bryan match. As if Bryan/Ali would be any better or drive more business for the Wrestlemania season. You're following the wrong company if you think an unexplained rule change in a single segment will stop the January-April money train.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:21 |
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Psychepath posted:Utterly amazing that you are all arguing against another AJ/Bryan match. As if Bryan/Ali would be any better or drive more business for the Wrestlemania season. You're following the wrong company if you think an unexplained rule change in a single segment will stop the January-April money train. Would it be worse? And pushing Ali gives them the chance of a guy under 40 being over. Plus it's the RR title match. It doesn't matter if it's not an instant draw because people are there for the Rumble.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:25 |
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Psychepath posted:Utterly amazing that you are all arguing against another AJ/Bryan match. As if Bryan/Ali would be any better or drive more business for the Wrestlemania season. You're following the wrong company if you think an unexplained rule change in a single segment will stop the January-April money train. You mostly have a point, but it's the Rumble. You don't need a title match to draw for that.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:26 |
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wwe doesnt care what title matches it books for the rumble because the title match isn't the draw for the ppv. they can always add ali to it later because AJ struck Vince or w/e
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:27 |
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Psychepath posted:Utterly amazing that you are all arguing against another AJ/Bryan match. As if Bryan/Ali would be any better or drive more business for the Wrestlemania season. You're following the wrong company if you think an unexplained rule change in a single segment will stop the January-April money train. Nah, bro. Jumping a guy from 205 Live to co-main of the Rumble in six weeks is totally logical.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:29 |
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mkay0 posted:Nah, bro. Jumping a guy from 205 Live to co-main of the Rumble in six weeks is totally logical.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:35 |
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mkay0 posted:Nah, bro. Jumping a guy from 205 Live to co-main of the Rumble in six weeks is totally logical. WWE title was the curtain jerker this year btw, which shows you exactly how much they think of the WWE title match at the Rumble.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:36 |
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Rumble title matches have been meaningless for more than a decade now since one WM main event gets set with the Rumble winner and the other gets set at Elimination Chamber.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:37 |
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mkay0 posted:Nah, bro. Jumping a guy from 205 Live to co-main of the Rumble in six weeks is totally logical. Hardcore loving Holly has co-mained a Rumble, it's literally a "why not" slot. You could throw anyone in there and if they can work, Bryan would probably get them over huge by the end of the match and you'd have... a new star!
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:51 |
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Royal Rumble title matches aren't really generally used to give throwaway title shots or experiments, they're almost always either a marquee-esque match and occasionally a way to shuffle the titles into a different feud for Wrestlemania. When they aren't, they're usually remembered as lovely. 1998: Shawn Michaels (c) vs. Undertaker in a casket match 1999: Mankind (c) vs. the Rock in an I Quit Match 2000: HHH (c) vs. Cactus Jack in a street fight match 2001: Kurt Angle (c) vs. HHH 2002: Chris Jericho (c) vs. The Rock 2003: HHH (c) vs. Scott Steiner, [b]Kurt Angle (c) vs. Chris Benoit 2004: HHH (c) vs. Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Hardcore Holly 2005: HHH (c) vs. Randy Orton, JBL (c) vs. Big Show vs. Kurt Angle 2006: John Cena (c) vs. Edge, Kurt Angle (c) vs. Mark Henry 2007: Batista (c) vs. Mr. Kennedy, John Cena (c) vs. Umaga 2008: Edge (c) vs. Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton (c) vs. Jeff Hardy 2009: John Cena (c) vs. JBL, Jeff Hardy (c) vs. Edge 2010: Sheamus (c) vs. Randy Orton, Undertaker (c) vs. Rey Mysterio 2011: Edge (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler, The Miz (c) vs. Randy Orton 2012: CM Punk (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler, Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Mark Henry vs. The Big Show 2013: Alberto del Rio (c) vs. The Big Show, CM Punk (c) vs. The Rock 2014: Randy Orton (c) vs. John Cena 2015: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins 2016: HHH wins the Royal Rumble for the WWE WHC 2017: Kevin Owens (c) vs. Roman Reigns, AJ Styles (c) vs. John Cena 2018: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Kane vs. Braun Strowman, AJ Styles (c) vs. Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn 2019: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Braun Strowman, Daniel Bryan (c) vs. AJ Styles The title has actually changed hands a lot more at RRs than I remembered, Cena won it off Styles in 2017, Triple H 'won' it off Reigns in 2016, Rock beat Punk in 2013, and Edge beat Jeff Hardy in 2010. That's only four times in seventeen title matches, but still. Ali is unquestionably more talented in 2018 than Steiner, Holly, Kennedy, and the other misfit toys that got title matches, but a Bryan/Ali match seems more like something they'd try in May or June, not at the official kickoff of "Wrestlemania season". That's not necessarily a good thing, but it is a WWE thing. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Dec 30, 2018 |
# ? Dec 30, 2018 05:56 |
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She's wearing more in this picture than she does when wrestling.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 06:38 |
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The Cameo posted:Hardcore loving Holly has co-mained a Rumble, it's literally a "why not" slot. You could throw anyone in there and if they can work, Bryan would probably get them over huge by the end of the match and you'd have... a new star! Do you think there is time to switch it to Bryan vs. Holly?
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 07:13 |
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Imagine caring this much about the WWE title in 2018/19
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 07:47 |
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Imagine caring about the water quality Right here in flint, michigan
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 07:52 |
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Cavauro posted:Imagine caring about the water quality Right here in flint, michigan
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 07:59 |
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DarkstarIV posted:https://twitter.com/brittsxcoles/status/1079207858804281345 I mean there's nothing saying you can compete for the championship and are exempt from the Rumble. Double duty has happened before.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 16:59 |
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NoMoneyDown posted:I mean there's nothing saying you can compete for the championship and are exempt from the Rumble. Double duty has happened before. Of course, but I'm thinking if they really don't want Carmella in the #30 spot when the Rumble rolls around, its a way to write her off. Have her get beaten so badly by Asuka, she's unable to compete later in the evening. WWE does a lot of stupid poo poo, but I dunno if they'll stick to their guns and have two comedy jobbers in the #30 spots in both Rumbles when the time comes around.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 17:23 |
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https://twitter.com/WrestlingSheet/status/1079208791999078400
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 17:24 |
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Very JBL-esque hair on Cena there.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 18:13 |
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Germansimp posted:Very JBL-esque hair on Cena there. Time for a year long WWE title run as heel fatcat JC
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 20:06 |
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Cena looks like Mark Wahlberg's stunt double now.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 21:23 |
I love how you can see Becky corpsing in these moments but they never come across on tv.
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# ? Dec 30, 2018 23:17 |
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Edge & Christian posted:Royal Rumble title matches aren't really generally used to give throwaway title shots or experiments, they're almost always either a marquee-esque match and occasionally a way to shuffle the titles into a different feud for Wrestlemania. When they aren't, they're usually remembered as lovely. OTOH, you're right that I was a fool to be suckered into thinking WWE might book one thing in a way that's actually forward thinking and not just clinging to the same-old "repeat matches until people are even sick of Bryan/Styles" booking.
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# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:28 |
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NXT spoilers:quote:January 9th Episode: Sorta weird that Lacey Evans got to walk out of NXT on top. And Bianca is apparently the actual heel in this feud b/w her and Shayna. Crowd reactions to Bianca were mixed through the night. While she got some "Undefeated" chants, the crowd also called her overrated during her match with Nikki, and also in her promo with Shayna. Also the Johnny/Ciampa stuff is starting to come off as an actual daytime soap opera now.
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# ? Jan 4, 2019 03:59 |
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Bianca's biggest deficit is her selling. She ain't Sasha Banks for sure. The tapings make for dull reading.
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# ? Jan 4, 2019 05:07 |
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lol wow I hope Keith Lee is making good cash cause this is not going well for him.
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# ? Jan 4, 2019 07:42 |
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Takeover will probably be good but I'm not very hype for it.
fatherofmustard fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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