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RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Gyges posted:

John Henry, Carl Lewis, TR. Also we lead the world in crazy rear end motherfuckers. We've got a whole state dedicated to it.
I'll give you John Henry but only because he's associated with my home state WV

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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Ok so. Just finished Ch97 and saw Shanks coming back! I'm curious to see how that goes. Up to this point, the crew is a total blast.

Luffy is incredibly good! Like, don't judge a book by its cover etc but a big part of me avoiding One Piece for so long was like "wow Luffy looks like he is a dumbo of an MC!" but he is actually super great?? I think it will be hard to forget the fight against Arlong where Luffy picked up the sword and smacked Arlong a bunch and screamed "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A SWORD FISH MAN." Just, every moment he is the focus of attention is so drat hilarious even when he is at his most serious. Luffy is genuinely one of my favorite protags in a series already, and I am crazy to see more wacky adventures. And maybe he is about to meet Shanks again???!!! Also I feel like I am required by law to mention the scene where Nami is asking for help and Luffy puts his hat on her head. I've seen that panel around before, but knowing the context of that scene and how dearly Luffy cares about that hat drat that was a super powerful moment. I was already invested in this story because it was a good pirate adventure, but that moment was like definite "ok I want to read all of this."

Zoro is neat. His backstory was lolbasic but that's fine in the end. Fighting with a sword in his mouth is so weird especially considering her somehow still talks, but it is always a super cool fight scene when he comes on. I really enjoy his laid back demeanor despite being a pirate hunter, and lmao he must've been hunting some chumps before Luffy came along because drat the pirates they've gone up against since then have been making it real hard. The fight with Hawk was crazy, I genuinely didn't think the would bring a Grand Line pirate in to have a fight so early on but holy poo poo completely dunked on Zoro. Can't wait until he has really recovered from his injuries and is back to full capacity rear end kicking.

Holy poo poo Usopp is obnoxious and not in a funny way aaaaa. I feel like every other character gets a good laugh out of me but Usopp's endless "I AM THE CAPTAIN ACTUALLY" jokes were tired before they even got started. That said, even Usopp has his moments which is impressive. His backstory was a lot of fun and I hope he gets to go back and visit the people of that island again at some point. His slingshot fighting gives him some great moments and even though he spends most of time like AH poo poo I'M GONNA DIE he gets his beatings in. I think his dad is with Shanks so maybe that'll change something a bit, but Usopp is definitely the weakest for me right now.

Sanji is good. I like all his dumb food kicks and his obsession with Nami makes for some hilarious moments. The restaurant was a cool arc, and his dedication to the chef was great especially after the backstory on the island as a kid. He really did take everything the old man wanted him to get and dunked on anyone who had a problem. Although I don't know what it is but Sanji always looks like his legs are his entire body. Probably the almost all black outfit. I think Sanji has the best character interactions so far, even if he is the newest crew member. He just clicks with everyone.

And then there's Nami. Having just left Nami's hometown holy poo poo that was a heartwrenching arc. Nami's has been such a good character, and probably the most complex up to this point. Her playful attitude mixed with her backstory made it always weird starting out what she was up to. I figured she would betray the crew at least once, but I think at this point she's probably in it for good. Out of everyone, she feels the most piratey of the crew. I feel like despite her getting in on the okes and stuff she is the one who will keep them focused on pirating.

Koby better come back at some point. Even though the Marines are by far the shittiest people on the seas like wow why would anyone ever want to be a Marine

Also drat thinking about it now it's crazy how every arc this far has been better than the last

Kashuno fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Dec 31, 2018

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Usopp is probably my second favorite part of the crew besides luffy. I think you're giving him too little credit, he's a regular dude amidst a group of monsters or professionals, and has to batman his way out of stuff and keep up a facade of bravado. I think (hope) you'll keep an eye on his development as the series progresses and don't write him off like you have so far, he's got some of my favorite moments in the entire series and there's a fight he's involved in that just in the last couple pages of the thread people were hailing as one of the best fights/parts of one piece entirely.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I didn't like Usopp at first, but he really is one of the great success stories of One Piece and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN
wano is the most ambitious arc in one piece so far. the fact that we are STILL in setup mode is incredible.

forr whatever reason, i'm not feeling "character introduction overload" like i did with dressrosa, either. maybe because they're being woven in more naturally rather than "hey lol there's a tournament here's 10 new captains"

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Wano is going to be 50 chapters of setup followed by 150 chapters of action; there's an insanely high number of important players in the mix already.

Once the action starts, it's probably not going to stop; I'm so excited, and I hope to see Zoro finally get a new katana.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Captain Invictus posted:

Usopp is probably my second favorite part of the crew besides luffy. I think you're giving him too little credit, he's a regular dude amidst a group of monsters or professionals, and has to batman his way out of stuff and keep up a facade of bravado. I think (hope) you'll keep an eye on his development as the series progresses and don't write him off like you have so far, he's got some of my favorite moments in the entire series and there's a fight he's involved in that just in the last couple pages of the thread people were hailing as one of the best fights/parts of one piece entirely.


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I didn't like Usopp at first, but he really is one of the great success stories of One Piece and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

I see the potential for Usopp and definitely think he has room to grow, but he just is't there for me quite yet. His alcohol/fireball slingshot combo on the kiss fish dude was p good though

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN
with the shogun being a huge loving goofball i imagine that kyoshiro will be zoro's enemy from that side of things

tho queen and king are both set up against sanji and zoro....

i don't know where this goes!!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Luffy demonstrates early on that despite being pretty dumb, childish and reckless he has a measure of self-awareness, people skills and wisdom that most shonen protagonists sorely lack. He specifically sets out to assemble a crew of the best weirdos he can find because he knows they have to be able to take him all the way to being the Pirate King, and they need to be worthy and able to keep up. He has a pretty good thing of meeting interesting, super skilled people, winning their trust and loyalty, and incorporating their quests and priorities into his own. The cast aren't tagging along with him just out of circumstances or friendship or even shared priorities alone, they're his crew because they want to be and chose to be.

Always felt that Zoro's backstory works better than you'd think; he'd be a very different character if he was just avenging a murdered friend/rival or otherwise fuelled by anger rather than loss. He has a lot in common with Luffy in that he chose his quest because the idea appealed to him and he was in a contest with a childhood friend who was a mentor and inspiration to him as much as a rival, and losing them meant he can no longer give up because they lost their chance. That said, about all the crew's motivations aren't about anger or revenge, (though Nami certainly got a measure of hers, it'd never be enough for what she suffered) but about getting on with their lives despite what they've lost and carrying on with their dream now they have the freedom to do so.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Kashuno posted:

I see the potential for Usopp and definitely think he has room to grow, but he just is't there for me quite yet. His alcohol/fireball slingshot combo on the kiss fish dude was p good though
I think you'll see his true power in another arc or two. Keep on giving us your thoughts if you've got the time for it, it's great stuff. :allears:

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

tbp posted:

wano is the most ambitious arc in one piece so far. the fact that we are STILL in setup mode is incredible.

forr whatever reason, i'm not feeling "character introduction overload" like i did with dressrosa, either. maybe because they're being woven in more naturally rather than "hey lol there's a tournament here's 10 new captains"

Also because a good chunk of them were already introduced and are finally getting payoff.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Captain Invictus posted:

I think you'll see his true power in another arc or two. Keep on giving us your thoughts if you've got the time for it, it's great stuff. :allears:

I will keep giving updates as I go. Right now I am just like "holy poo poo are they going to ACTUALLY go to the Grand Line already?!" because the pacing of this manga is wacky as hell and maybe they are

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Kashuno posted:

I will keep giving updates as I go. Right now I am just like "holy poo poo are they going to ACTUALLY go to the Grand Line already?!" because the pacing of this manga is wacky as hell and maybe they are
almost the entire rest of the manga up until now is spent in the grand line. like it might as well say "END OF PROLOGUE" when they enter the grand line for the first time.

poo poo, there's a few parts in this series where "END OF PROLOGUE" would have just made my head explode like that one gif from Scanners because it'd fit so monumentally well

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
My blistering hot take is that Luffy is my second favorite Straw Hat, because Zoro is pretty loving great. Between his umpteen badass moments and poo poo like (spoilers for the newbies)him getting to Sabody early and in a completely matter of fact matter just calling everyone else by their arrival number makes him the best combo for me.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdKhHfoGN7k

Yeah, it's THAT Indeed.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Last Celebration posted:

My blistering hot take is that Luffy is my second favorite Straw Hat, because Zoro is pretty loving great. Between his umpteen badass moments and poo poo like (spoilers for the newbies)him getting to Sabody early and in a completely matter of fact matter just calling everyone else by their arrival number makes him the best combo for me.

He was so proud of himself

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

wait sorry what the gently caress is this

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker

Bleck posted:

wait sorry what the gently caress is this

An ad for a Japanese job searching site? I think?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Indiana_Krom posted:

An ad for a Japanese job searching site? I think?

Indeed is a job search site from the US. Japan obviously did a CM for the site with it's own natural spin.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

They're aiming for it to become a whole campaign.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Waffleman_ posted:

They're aiming for it to become a whole campaign.

Can't wait to see a Dragon Ball version of this.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Ch97/98: Oh my god Alvida and Buggy are back. Lmao at the slip slip fruit causing Alvida to lose a bunch of weight?? I look forward to another dunking on them. That sword that Zolo picked up is gonna come back to gently caress him up at a critical time isn’t it? This town is super cool and looks like it might actually have navy marines who don’t suck??

I’m reading in the Shonen Jump app and I see Zolo but people keep calling him Zoro?

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

Kashuno posted:

Ch97/98: Oh my god Alvida and Buggy are back. Lmao at the slip slip fruit causing Alvida to lose a bunch of weight?? I look forward to another dunking on them. That sword that Zolo picked up is gonna come back to gently caress him up at a critical time isn’t it? This town is super cool and looks like it might actually have navy marines who don’t suck??

I’m reading in the Shonen Jump app and I see Zolo but people keep calling him Zoro?

They changed his name in english releases to Zolo because they didnt want to get into a legal fight about the name and likeness of zorro.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Kashuno posted:

Ch97/98: Oh my god Alvida and Buggy are back. Lmao at the slip slip fruit causing Alvida to lose a bunch of weight?? I look forward to another dunking on them. That sword that Zolo picked up is gonna come back to gently caress him up at a critical time isn’t it? This town is super cool and looks like it might actually have navy marines who don’t suck??

I’m reading in the Shonen Jump app and I see Zolo but people keep calling him Zoro?

Because Zoro is almost certainly Oda's intended romanization. The official English manga translations are stuck with Zolo (they originally used it to maintain consistency with the 4Kids anime dub), but the databooks, Roman text in the manga itself, and so forth generally use Zoro.

Though given the likely derivation of the name, I guess he should really be l'Olonnais Zorro.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Whaleporn posted:

They changed his name in english releases to Zolo because they didnt want to get into a legal fight about the name and likeness of zorro.

This is the bullshit that 4kids spun up. Everyone else just kept up the Zolo bullshit after that for continuity idiocy.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Hey, Kashuno, have you been reading the cover arcs? They're canon.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Gyges posted:

This is the bullshit that 4kids spun up. Everyone else just kept up the Zolo bullshit after that for continuity idiocy.

The Funimation dub uses Zoro, interestingly enough.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Kashuno posted:

Luffy is incredibly good! Like, don't judge a book by its cover etc but a big part of me avoiding One Piece for so long was like "wow Luffy looks like he is a dumbo of an MC!" but he is actually super great?? I think it will be hard to forget the fight against Arlong where Luffy picked up the sword and smacked Arlong a bunch and screamed "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A SWORD FISH MAN." Just, every moment he is the focus of attention is so drat hilarious even when he is at his most serious.

It is great that he is actually always being totally serious in a fight. Especially when he pulls out insane things that make everyone question if he's just loving around.

Enemy:Are you going to take this fight seriously?

Luffy: I am being totally serious [hurls legs around so quickly that he actually gains lift, and then comments that he's a UFO]


Sanji looks horrible, and I don't know why his mascara eyebrow bothers me so much when Zorro and Usopp are sporting such cheap prosthetics. That's one hell of a Chopper costume though. Totally runner up on SyFy's FaceOff material.

Waffleman_ posted:

The Funimation dub uses Zoro, interestingly enough.

Yeah, they picked up the dub from where 4Kids left off, only later going back and redoing everything up to Skypeia. Apparently English speakers can't figure out a name change from Zolo to Zorro, but they can totally understand everyone suddenly having actually guns and Sanji taking up smoking.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Last Celebration posted:

My blistering hot take is that Luffy is my second favorite Straw Hat, because Zoro is pretty loving great. Between his umpteen badass moments and poo poo like (spoilers for the newbies)him getting to Sabody early and in a completely matter of fact matter just calling everyone else by their arrival number makes him the best combo for me.

Franky
Zoro
Luffy

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

tbp posted:

wano is the most ambitious arc in one piece so far. the fact that we are STILL in setup mode is incredible.

forr whatever reason, i'm not feeling "character introduction overload" like i did with dressrosa, either. maybe because they're being woven in more naturally rather than "hey lol there's a tournament here's 10 new captains"

I think it’s because we have the rough outline of who will be important. Oden’s samurai,Kaido’s top forces, the Supanovas, the SH crew + plus mink and pirate allies and the shogun. Everyone else is more or less there to add to the story of those groups.

Plus the characters aren’t as boring as Riku, Rebecca and Kyro’s were.They were the foundation of the arc and you don’t care heaps about their story because none of them except Kyro’s took actions from the backstory Oda gave em.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Whaleporn posted:

They changed his name in english releases to Zolo because they didnt want to get into a legal fight about the name and likeness of zorro.

Extra funny given iirc Zorro is basically public domain but no one wants to admit it.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Extra funny given iirc Zorro is basically public domain but no one wants to admit it.

It's a bit of a grey area, because only the first few stories are public domain, and there's a company (Zorro Productions, natch) that aggressively protects the copyright of what isn't public domain. Even if they wouldn't win in court, the threat of a lawsuit is enough to change one letter and avoid the whole issue.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Kashuno posted:

Ok so. Just finished Ch97 and saw Shanks coming back! I'm curious to see how that goes. Up to this point, the crew is a total blast.

Luffy is incredibly good! Like, don't judge a book by its cover etc but a big part of me avoiding One Piece for so long was like "wow Luffy looks like he is a dumbo of an MC!" but he is actually super great?? I think it will be hard to forget the fight against Arlong where Luffy picked up the sword and smacked Arlong a bunch and screamed "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A SWORD FISH MAN." Just, every moment he is the focus of attention is so drat hilarious even when he is at his most serious. Luffy is genuinely one of my favorite protags in a series already, and I am crazy to see more wacky adventures. And maybe he is about to meet Shanks again???!!! Also I feel like I am required by law to mention the scene where Nami is asking for help and Luffy puts his hat on her head. I've seen that panel around before, but knowing the context of that scene and how dearly Luffy cares about that hat drat that was a super powerful moment. I was already invested in this story because it was a good pirate adventure, but that moment was like definite "ok I want to read all of this."

Zoro is neat. His backstory was lolbasic but that's fine in the end. Fighting with a sword in his mouth is so weird especially considering her somehow still talks, but it is always a super cool fight scene when he comes on. I really enjoy his laid back demeanor despite being a pirate hunter, and lmao he must've been hunting some chumps before Luffy came along because drat the pirates they've gone up against since then have been making it real hard. The fight with Hawk was crazy, I genuinely didn't think the would bring a Grand Line pirate in to have a fight so early on but holy poo poo completely dunked on Zoro. Can't wait until he has really recovered from his injuries and is back to full capacity rear end kicking.

Holy poo poo Usopp is obnoxious and not in a funny way aaaaa. I feel like every other character gets a good laugh out of me but Usopp's endless "I AM THE CAPTAIN ACTUALLY" jokes were tired before they even got started. That said, even Usopp has his moments which is impressive. His backstory was a lot of fun and I hope he gets to go back and visit the people of that island again at some point. His slingshot fighting gives him some great moments and even though he spends most of time like AH poo poo I'M GONNA DIE he gets his beatings in. I think his dad is with Shanks so maybe that'll change something a bit, but Usopp is definitely the weakest for me right now.

Sanji is good. I like all his dumb food kicks and his obsession with Nami makes for some hilarious moments. The restaurant was a cool arc, and his dedication to the chef was great especially after the backstory on the island as a kid. He really did take everything the old man wanted him to get and dunked on anyone who had a problem. Although I don't know what it is but Sanji always looks like his legs are his entire body. Probably the almost all black outfit. I think Sanji has the best character interactions so far, even if he is the newest crew member. He just clicks with everyone.

And then there's Nami. Having just left Nami's hometown holy poo poo that was a heartwrenching arc. Nami's has been such a good character, and probably the most complex up to this point. Her playful attitude mixed with her backstory made it always weird starting out what she was up to. I figured she would betray the crew at least once, but I think at this point she's probably in it for good. Out of everyone, she feels the most piratey of the crew. I feel like despite her getting in on the okes and stuff she is the one who will keep them focused on pirating.

Koby better come back at some point. Even though the Marines are by far the shittiest people on the seas like wow why would anyone ever want to be a Marine

Also drat thinking about it now it's crazy how every arc this far has been better than the last

The One Piece world is one of the most well built and FASCINATINGLY complex of any shonen. Take your last post about the marines for instance. Yes a some of them are poo poo, but they're basically the law that protects you from rampaging pirates. A lot of really complex political stuff gets brought up way later on and I can only look forward to more posts as you read the series and see the characters actually grow and evolve in really tangible and complex ways.

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Begemot posted:

It's a bit of a grey area, because only the first few stories are public domain, and there's a company (Zorro Productions, natch) that aggressively protects the copyright of what isn't public domain. Even if they wouldn't win in court, the threat of a lawsuit is enough to change one letter and avoid the whole issue.

4Kids changes that name for fun. Just like they did to "Trace". Someone in that company loved that name, because it pops up in at least 3 different dubs (Shaman King, Pokemon and One Piece).

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Of all things, One Piece reminds me of Star Trek at times. Complete with the voyaging ship setup, characterful core crew with various interactions and adventures in the island of the month (with filler able to quite easily insert new islands and towns of the week without feeling too out of place) but recurring side characters, antagonists and rivals showing the development and events of the world that go on while the protagonists are doing whatever.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

doomrider7 posted:

The One Piece world is one of the most well built and FASCINATINGLY complex of any shonen. Take your last post about the marines for instance. Yes a some of them are poo poo, but they're basically the law that protects you from rampaging pirates. A lot of really complex political stuff gets brought up way later on and I can only look forward to more posts as you read the series and see the characters actually grow and evolve in really tangible and complex ways.

It looks like they will finally have some marines that are recurring and cool to follow. Smoker and Tashigi seem like they will be recurring characters hunting the straw hat crew through the Grand Line, and it's cool that it seems they're setting up Tashigi to be a rival to Zoro. They did already do the thing with Hawk but Hawk feels like he is such a level above Zoro that he's not really a rival at this point but rather an aspiration. Tashigi meanwhile got dunked on by Zoro but has the potential to own him down the line. Also the smoke fruit seems like the first one that is really going to be a major problem for the crew. Buggy and Alvida exist but I get the feeling they are far more comic relief than actual threats ever.

The crazy sea creatures in the Calm Line were pretty insane. Wonder if we ever see more of the Calm Line. I'm guessing no because there are probably no islands out there. I cannot believe they are already going to the Grand Line and ch100 was titled THE LEGEND BEGINS like hot drat this has been a wild ride already and we are just getting started?! Also lmao that they broke their boat already just entering the mountain...If the currents push you up into the Grand Line how exactly do people get out??

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

Kashuno posted:

The crazy sea creatures in the Calm Line were pretty insane. Wonder if we ever see more of the Calm Line. I'm guessing no because there are probably no islands out there. I cannot believe they are already going to the Grand Line and ch100 was titled THE LEGEND BEGINS like hot drat this has been a wild ride already and we are just getting started?! Also lmao that they broke their boat already just entering the mountain...If the currents push you up into the Grand Line how exactly do people get out??

All of your questions will be addressed in future chapters; and yes, you will actually get to see a bit of what islands in the Calm Belt are like.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Mister Olympus posted:

All of your questions will be addressed in future chapters; and yes, you will actually get to see a bit of what islands in the Calm Belt are like.

I still dont understand how people leave the grand line if they arent Marines. Or how Marines did it 10 years ago

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Same way anyone does anything in One Piece: burning spirit and gumption. Also insane amounts of firepower / manpower.

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Comic
Feb 24, 2008

Mad Comic Stylings

Meme Emulator posted:

I still dont understand how people leave the grand line if they arent Marines. Or how Marines did it 10 years ago

I think the standard person doesn't, which is why people generally live there to begin with. It's not the most forgiving kind of place to have a country of standard people even from an environmental aspect.

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