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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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karmicknight posted:Why did they do TWO different posthumous awards to the sick on behalf of Warrior? Part of it is they probably feel the need to recoup some of their investment in keeping Warrior's horrible white nationalism enabling wife from going broke. I believe they were paying her the money they'd agreed to sign Warrior for to be a big company ambassador type guy before he died. That deal might have ended so maybe they are just going to stick with the Warrior Award? Not sure. But that family was in huge financial trouble which is part of why Warrior came back. The rest is the company is just horrible.
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Jan 2, 2019 06:07
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MassRafTer posted:Part of it is they probably feel the need to recoup some of their investment in keeping Warrior's horrible white nationalism enabling wife from going broke. I believe they were paying her the money they'd agreed to sign Warrior for to be a big company ambassador type guy before he died. That deal might have ended so maybe they are just going to stick with the Warrior Award? Not sure. But that family was in huge financial trouble which is part of why Warrior came back. They should stop paying her and then she should also die.
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Jan 2, 2019 06:09
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MassRafTer posted:Part of it is they probably feel the need to recoup some of their investment in keeping Warrior's horrible white nationalism enabling wife from going broke. I believe they were paying her the money they'd agreed to sign Warrior for to be a big company ambassador type guy before he died. That deal might have ended so maybe they are just going to stick with the Warrior Award? Not sure. But that family was in huge financial trouble which is part of why Warrior came back. The weird thing is if they didn't and his wife was at all sympathetic that would be in the tournament. It's telling who they look out for though.
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Jan 2, 2019 07:14
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Vince MechMahon posted:They should stop paying her and then she should also die. listen man if WWE stops paying racists they're gonna have to shut down
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Jan 2, 2019 16:51
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sexpig by night posted:listen man if WWE stops paying racists they're gonna have to shut down But what's the bad part
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Jan 2, 2019 16:58
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1080514207223816192
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Jan 2, 2019 18:25
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Underpaying wrestlers. Indies and regional promotions underpay because they simply don't have the pocketbook. WWE does several times over. WWE shouldn't be doing drug testing. They should be doing health checks, instead. Its pretty clear they're not screening evenly for people on gear so the what they should be doing is making sure people aren't going to keel over from a heart failure or develop a wife killing psychosis.
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Jan 2, 2019 18:36
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coconono posted:Underpaying wrestlers. Indies and regional promotions underpay because they simply don't have the pocketbook. WWE does several times over. agreed, I'd rather them focus on health testing and maybe drug testing, not vise-versa. Meanwhile WWE pays people like they're "Jeff's Wrestling Federation" being run out of a garage working in a local high school gym.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:18
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Jan 2, 2019 21:32
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I went with underpaying workers because labor empowerment but otherwise this is a coinflip. Can a billionaire please bankroll AEW, throw legal muscle at WWE for their 'contractor' bullshit and then scoop WWE guys up and pay them market value. This will not make you money mind, but do it anyway. (The question 'if there's no profit to be had, then how are they being paid market value' immediately pops into my head. But that has little to do with this)
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Jan 2, 2019 22:02
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 at the idea of a billionaire not exploiting labour
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Jan 2, 2019 22:08
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ChrisBTY posted:I went with underpaying workers because labor empowerment but otherwise this is a coinflip. Billionaires don't become billionaires if they don't exploit the gently caress outta their labor forces.
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Jan 2, 2019 22:14
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save_us.billionaires
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Jan 2, 2019 22:15
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The great thing about wrestling is you could doubt your wrestlers pay as a percentage of revenue compared to what WWE does and still be exploiting the hell out of them!
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Jan 2, 2019 22:21
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the pay is showing off my body and all the hard work I put into mastering my craft, hearing the pop from the crowd (or boos) and putting in my best work every night to entertain the fans who paid their hard earned (or welfare maybe) money to see me and some other strongman/woman take bumps, said no one in wresting ever.
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Jan 2, 2019 22:28
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We're speaking relatively here. Ain't like baseball or basketball or football is hurting for billionaires. And yet somehow the talent gets paid a far higher % than WWE. Also: Sucks don't it. AEW's ceiling is RoH without a sugar daddy. Takes a billionaire to stop a billionaire. We're all hosed. But you already knew that. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Jan 2, 2019 22:29
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How much would a typical mid-card WAE talent be paid? Like should we assume a downside of $80,000/year before taxes/travel?
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Jan 2, 2019 22:56
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ChrisBTY posted:AEW's ceiling is RoH without a sugar daddy. Don't they have a billionaire sugar daddy('s son)?
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Jan 2, 2019 23:14
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They're also presumably a preferred toy rather than an embarrassment locked up in a tower
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Jan 2, 2019 23:14
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Don't they have a billionaire sugar daddy('s son)? Yeah, I think people are missing that the Khan's laugh at McMahon money. I mean, I have no idea if this is a real deal business investment or some distraction for a listless silver spooned heir. But the sugar daddy and money is all there if they want it.
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Jan 2, 2019 23:16
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I think people are missing that the Khan's laugh at McMahon money. ONE person who has worked for several Wrestling companies over the decades said to me today that a) Tony Khan wants WCW Nitro - obviously Tuesday Night Dynamite, negotiating with TNA etc. b) It will be like WCW if Eric Bischoff was Ted Turner's son.
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Jan 3, 2019 00:07
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rovert posted:ONE person who has worked for several Wrestling companies over the decades said to me today that Both of these seem like monstrous red flags. I voted for underpaid workers. WWE sets the market price. If they pay their talent an appropriate price then everyone else has to step us as well.
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Jan 3, 2019 00:10
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I think people are missing that the Khan's laugh at McMahon money. Not that it will necessarily translate to acumen as a wrestling promoter (it rarely does) but hasn't Tony Khan actually operated businesses that did extremely well as opposed to just being given a vanity title/company so he has something to do with his days?
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Jan 3, 2019 00:48
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Man I would be ecstatic if someone big ran with the ring boy story, 'cause god drat
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Jan 3, 2019 01:50
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rovert posted:b) It will be like WCW if Eric Bischoff was Ted Turner's son. I am screaming No while typing it out on my computer.
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Jan 3, 2019 02:34
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Day 2 and AEW is already loving dead
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Jan 3, 2019 03:12
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Low Desert Punk posted:Man I would be ecstatic if someone big ran with the ring boy story, 'cause god drat It happened so long ago and the accused perps are obscure even to most wrestling fans I doubt anything would come of it.
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Jan 3, 2019 03:19
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1080648653067427841
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Jan 3, 2019 03:23
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Smoking Crow posted:Day 2 and AEW is already loving dead Turns out it was always bad
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Jan 3, 2019 03:33
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went with Trish this time. GRR doesn't quite have the stink Crown Jewel does(we're talking frozen cat turd vs microwaved cat turd). And compared to how intensely pointless the entire McMahon Saga poo poo was and continues to be there was no upside in Trish stripping down and barking like a dog other than for titillation's sake.
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Jan 3, 2019 05:07
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coconono posted:went with Trish this time. GRR doesn't quite have the stink Crown Jewel does(we're talking frozen cat turd vs microwaved cat turd). And compared to how intensely pointless the entire McMahon Saga poo poo was and continues to be there was no upside in Trish stripping down and barking like a dog other than for titillation's sake. Deeply uncomfortable titillation! I voted for the first awful propaganda show-anyone looking for 2 minutes would see how evil KSA is, but they still did it.
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Jan 3, 2019 05:13
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I just looked at who the NY64 twitter is following, and it's beautiful.
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Jan 3, 2019 05:33
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Jan 3, 2019 06:51
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rovert posted:ONE person who has worked for several Wrestling companies over the decades said to me today that Oh Gods the solution is the problem. I voted GRR because it is REALLY loving hard to top 'advocating for an Iranian war on the behest of KSA' 'Being responsible for a loving war' is in its own tier of terrible. And at least the Trish thing has been weaponized against the McMahons. Making it one of the more cathartic entries. Relatively speaking.
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Jan 3, 2019 07:13
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Vince at least got his comeuppance in that storyline. It doesn't redeem it much, given the real life power relations involved, but there you go. I just couldn't really look past the Saudi stuff here - the whole thing feels so much more malevolent when it's all part of the president's world politics chess game. Does that make me a woman-hating incel or whatever it was that dude on Twitter was saying about not including Austin.
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Jan 3, 2019 07:51
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The Trish segment is disgusting and should be evidence in a sexual harassment lawsuit, but it's going to be hard to beat doing propaganda for an oppressive foreign government that is actively engaged in war crimes.
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Jan 3, 2019 20:55
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The Trish thing is bad and I'm tempted to say "there's another KSA entry so...". But it seems only fair to vote for the thing that actually did finally sever my relationship with WWE.
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Jan 3, 2019 22:04
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It's amazing that despite having her own success outside WWE Trish comes back for special appearances after... that.
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Jan 3, 2019 23:18
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MysticalMachineGun posted:It's amazing that despite having her own success outside WWE Trish comes back for special appearances after... that. Vickie has almost nothing but good things to say about the company and wouldn't rule out future appearances either.
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Jan 3, 2019 23:24
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MysticalMachineGun posted:It's amazing that despite having her own success outside WWE Trish comes back for special appearances after... that. The thing we have to consider is that she wasn't against it as a performer. At the end of the day they're actors playing scenes and actually want to do what's in the script. We don't see what they went over backstage or how they felt about it. We don't have enough information to declare "Trish clearly didn't want to do this but Vince forced her because she couldn't say no". When we hear of a wrestler burning bridges with WWE, it's almost always about backstage politics and lovely corporate practices. We rarely hear about a part of the show that drove them out, unless it was a last straw on top of many other things. So for me, lovely business wins over lovely TV.
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